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Re: Canadian Stock Cars and Ice Reefers in US

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Rob Erickson wrote:
Group, during the 1940s and 1950s, would loaded Canadian stock cars and ice reefers have been sent into the United States? If so, what were some of the common service routes? I'd like to be able to justify building some 36-ft stock cars and 8-hatch reefers.
The 8-hatch cars were predominantly (not exclusively) used for meat and fish. I remember the gray CN cars in Los Angeles when I was a kid in the 1950s (and was excited that Varney had a gray CN reefer model, though on their generic metal reefer body). I don't know for sure but would guess these were probably export meat from Canada.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Canadian Stock Cars and Ice Reefers in US

Armand Premo
 

Wheel reports provide evidence that CN,CP stock cars were not uncommon in Vt and Northern NY.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: robertm
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Canadian Stock Cars and Ice Reefers in US



I agree no stock but there may have been ice reefers.The Central Vermont
was heavy with products coming south from Canada: lumber, newsprint,
cars.
Bob Moeller
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "rdepennsyfan" <pattirobpatti@...> wrote:
>
> Group, during the 1940s and 1950s, would loaded Canadian stock cars
and ice reefers have been sent into the United States? If so, what were
some of the common service routes? I'd like to be able to justify
building some 36-ft stock cars and 8-hatch reefers.
>
> Thanks, Rob Erickson
>








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Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

Ditto



Jim Brewer

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From: "Elden J SAD Gatwood" <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:07:08 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

 




Jerry;

Yes, and also for "Steel Centers" scheme.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
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jerryglow@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:35 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

Since I have the pre '55 system herald, it wouldn't be that much of a streach
to do a set for the car to augment the one I already have for a rebuilt
(Tichy model) car. Any interest?

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , SUVCWORR@...
wrote:




Larry,

AFAIK they never did the Blueprint series in P&LE. They did do the
Yardmaster in a P&LE post WWII scheme.

Rich Orr






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Sent: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 4:38 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar


Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced
lettered for P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft door,
postwar AAR boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in my Naperville talk
next week?

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh



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Re: Iwata Airbrushes on Scottymason.com

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Clark Cooper <csc@...> wrote:

I have no problems spraying Polly Scale with my 'H' brush. It's
easier with a larger tip. The 'H' brush has three available tip sizes
(H-1, H-3, and H-5), but is typically sold with the smallest (H-1).
The complete tip assemblies only cost $10.95 retail from Paasche:

http://www.paascheairbrush.com/store/search.html

I thin about 25% with distilled water, pressure at around 25 pounds;
clean the brush with cheap ammonia glass cleaner, occasionally
disassemble and scrub out with micro-brushes.

-Clark Cooper

While I have purposely avoided the waterbase paints after trying them some years ago it would seem one would want a #5 tip on a Paasche to use them. You mention the #1 tip as being sold on most of them, Clark. That strikes me as a bit fine for most good model paints, Accupaint, Scalecoat, etc. I have sold a number of the Paashe's over
the last forty years, long before Walthers began carrying them, and found the #3 tip worked best for most customers. But the #1 or #5 tip was a good alternate to have to meet the needs of others. I have never used anything but the #1 and #3 myself but, as indicated, I don't care for the water based paints. With the #3 tip most issues can be cured
by adjusting the pressure and/or the dilution ratio. I have found that many people try to paint with too little pressure. With Accupaint in particular one needs 25-30 pounds. Gordon Cannon had the same experience with Accupaint and would use little else.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Canadian Stock Cars and Ice Reefers in US

robertm
 

I agree no stock but there may have been ice reefers.The Central Vermont
was heavy with products coming south from Canada: lumber, newsprint,
cars.
Bob Moeller
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "rdepennsyfan" <pattirobpatti@...> wrote:

Group, during the 1940s and 1950s, would loaded Canadian stock cars
and ice reefers have been sent into the United States? If so, what were
some of the common service routes? I'd like to be able to justify
building some 36-ft stock cars and 8-hatch reefers.

Thanks, Rob Erickson


Re: Iwata Airbrushes on Scottymason.com

Douglas Harding
 

I have a Paasche H-1 single action, a Badger Anthem 155 and an Iwata Revolution, both double action. I don't use the Paasche
anymore. I find the Iwata to be very nicely balanced and easy to use. The Badger is lighter, also works very nice and has a very
easy to remove needle for cleaning.

To paint acrylics (water based paints) requires the large tip and corresponding needle on the Paasche H-1. Both my Anthem 155 and
Revolution have tips/needles designed for the heavier acrylic paints, permitting me to spray direct from the bottle with no
thinning when using Badger's Model Flex.

Scott Mason was demo-ing a new attachment for the Iwata's at the national Narrow Gauge Convention in St Louis, which allows for
quicker removal of the needle for cleaning. I was not aware he was an Iwata dealer until that show. I did not seeing anything that
was revolutionary as far as improvements on painting models.

Info on Iwata can be found at http://www.iwata-medea.com/

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Jerry;

Yes, and also for "Steel Centers" scheme.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jerryglow@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:35 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar



Since I have the pre '55 system herald, it wouldn't be that much of a streach
to do a set for the car to augment the one I already have for a rebuilt
(Tichy model) car. Any interest?

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , SUVCWORR@...
wrote:




Larry,

AFAIK they never did the Blueprint series in P&LE. They did do the
Yardmaster in a P&LE post WWII scheme.

Rich Orr






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Sent: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 4:38 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar


Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced
lettered for P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft door,
postwar AAR boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in my Naperville talk
next week?

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh



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Re: Canadian Stock Cars and Ice Reefers in US

Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "rdepennsyfan" <pattirobpatti@...> wrote:

Group, during the 1940s and 1950s, would loaded Canadian stock cars and ice reefers have been sent into the United States? If so, what were some of the common service routes? I'd like to be able to justify building some 36-ft stock cars and 8-hatch reefers.

Thanks, Rob Erickson
I think during the steam era, all livestock had to be quarantined at the border, at least photos of Portal ND, the border crossing of the CPR / Soo Line show a building that is clearly marked a quarantine shed. So, this would cause any cross border livestock shipments to change cars.

CP express reefers are relatively common in photos of Soo Line passenger trains, surprisingly often in No. 1 & 2 close to Chicago. The story I've heard is they were carrying fish from the lakes around the Winnipeg area to be used to prepare Lox for Chicago's rather large Jewish community. Soo 1 & 2 made a good connection with 109 and 110, The Winnipeger, in St. Paul Union Depot, with an express car also going through.

I don't know the situation with freight reefers.

Dennis


Re: research, index,db,yeah, steam era and freight cars, can this group help?

Larry Kline
 

Gordon,

The NMRA Library can probably answer your question. They are on the NMRA web site. (nmra.org)

Also, I believe that most of the index info that was on the Kalmbach web site originally was produced by NMRA volunteers. The NMRA published an index for many years. I have NMRA indexes from 1969 to 1996.

AFIK MR and RMC are still indexed every year. I have a nearly complete set for MR and RMC from 1968.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bushnell.mp77 Account" <bushnell.mp77@...> wrote:
[snip]

That all being said, my "selfish" first desire is a way to find ALL
articles related to SOUTHERN RAILWAY. (BTW if and when I create a
list I'll make a PDF and post it in a file section for this group!)
[snip]

Gordon Andrews
very frustrated in Richmond, Virginia


Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

jerryglow2
 

Since I have the pre '55 system herald, it wouldn't be that much of a streach to do a set for the car to augment the one I already have for a rebuilt (Tichy model) car. Any interest?

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, SUVCWORR@... wrote:




Larry,

AFAIK they never did the Blueprint series in P&LE. They did do the Yardmaster in a P&LE post WWII scheme.

Rich Orr






-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Kline <lndkline@...>
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Sent: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 4:38 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar


Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced lettered for
P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft door, postwar AAR
boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in my Naperville talk next week?

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh



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Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

Larry Kline
 

Bill, Thanks, now I know for sure. Larry

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, bschneider424@... wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:58:39 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar


On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Larry Kline wrote:

Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced
lettered for P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft
door, postwar AAR boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in
my Naperville talk next week?
I have it on pretty good authority that they did not....

Bill Schneider


Re: Railroad Accident reports from the 1930's

Ray Breyer
 

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Paul Catapano <pc66ot@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Can some one, off list, contact me if
you have access to railroad accident reports for the
1930's.
Thank you.
Paul Catapano

Don't see why a simple website link can't go to the whole group:

http://ntl1.specialcollection.net/scripts/ws.dll?websearch&site=dot_railroads

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


Canadian Stock Cars and Ice Reefers in US

rdepennsyfan <pattirobpatti@...>
 

Group, during the 1940s and 1950s, would loaded Canadian stock cars and ice reefers have been sent into the United States? If so, what were some of the common service routes? I'd like to be able to justify building some 36-ft stock cars and 8-hatch reefers.

Thanks, Rob Erickson


Re: research, index,db,yeah, steam era and freight cars, can this group help?

Jack Burgess
 

Gordon wrote:

[snip]
<As far as I can tell when Kalmbach gave their data (supposedly) to the
<NMRA they might as well have tossed it in the nearest dumpster. I don't
<have a lot of faith that NMRA will do anything more than committee the
<data to death or hold the data hostage for tons of money that few will
<pay.

Don't come down so hard on the NMRA without proof. Yes, Kalmbach agreed to
provide the data to the NMRA. This was done during the NMRA Milwaukee
Convention once we all realized that Kalmbach decided to discontinue the
service (note that they hadn't index any other magazines for some time). I
was involved in the sidelines during these early discussions and it is my
understanding that the data base was not in a common format. The NMRA has
every intent to convert this data base into an accessible web-based data
base and get it updated, on-line, and then maintain it. It will not cost
"tons of money" to access once it is updated and available but will be
limited to NMRA members as a benefit to membership. If you don't want to
become a member to access it, just get a friend who is a member to access it
for you...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

SUVCWORR@...
 

Larry,

AFAIK they never did the Blueprint series in P&LE. They did do the Yardmaster in a P&LE post WWII scheme.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Kline <lndkline@verizon.net>
To: STMFC list <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>; P&LE list <P_and_LE@yahoogroups.com>; NYC list <NYC-Modeler@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 4:38 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar


Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced lettered for
P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft door, postwar AAR
boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in my Naperville talk next week?

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh



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Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

Bill Schneider
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@sbcglobal.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:58:39 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

 





On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Larry Kline wrote:

Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced
lettered for P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft door,
postwar AAR boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in my Naperville
talk next week?
Larry,
P&LE 5000-5999, Lot 774-B, built by Despatch Shops 3-49 can accurately
be modeled with the BT kits. However, I don't believe that BT produced
any P&LE kits.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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I have it on pretty good authority that they did not....



Bill Schneider

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Railroad Accident reports from the 1930's

Paul Catapano
 

Can some one, off list, contact me if you have access to railroad accident reports for the 1930's.
 
Thank you.

Paul Catapano

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Re: research, index,db,yeah, steam era and freight cars, can this group help?

Allen Rueter
 

Gordon, how about using the database function of the group,
I made an example table.

Allen Rueter

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bushnell.mp77 Account" <bushnell.mp77@...> wrote:

I am considering an article for a historical society publication
related to researching and building a freight car model related to their
specific railroad.

My "criteria" (personal) also narrowed my scope by suggesting that it
must be steam era - I can justify the model on my steam era railroad
even though the prototype is NOT the one I model.

So my first frustration is the fact that WE no longer have the old
"trains.com" site to look through previous magazine articles for basic
info!

I'm surrounded by YEARS of Model Railroader magazines dating back into
the 1940's and an entire collection of Mainline Modelers. Barring
looking through each one there is no way to easily glean contents.
(Yeah, I know Hundman published article titles each month for previous
issues- I even complained to him about that AND MRR had a yearly index
but that is a LOT of indexes to look through!) I "wisely" recycled my
old "Stephan's" about a decade ago since it was fast getting obsolete
and I could use the trains.com. That will teach me!

It would really help to find drawings that I can start with since the
article will be as close to "scratch" as I can get.

As far as I can tell when Kalmbach gave their data (supposedly) to the
NMRA they might as well have tossed it in the nearest dumpster. I don't
have a lot of faith that NMRA will do anything more than committee the
data to death or hold the data hostage for tons of money that few will pay.

I will also state for the record that I'm not enamored with the Kalmbach
management for their decision. I can no longer state that my collection
of magazines is "growing at a steady pace."

So I'm turning to this group. (hope springs eternal and all of that...)

First is anyone (at a minimum) tracking articles related to specific
railroads?
Are any historical groups tracking magazine info for specific railroads?
How about a listing of steam era freight car articles?
Is there a chance that maybe a group like RPI has the data in an
accessible format?

Does anyone have a good way to locate articles?

A few members are probably "data savvy" and if WE could get the raw data
WE could probably access the data and at least create a few "reports"
that would be MUCH BETTER than nothing. Heck, at this juncture just a
huge PDF file sorted by something as simple as "railroad" is better than
nothing. (what a certain decision gave us)

I hope someone has a better answer than "wait".

I'm willing to join with others to tackle raw data. If I could get the
raw data I might even be able to do create something that many of us
could use.

That all being said, my "selfish" first desire is a way to find ALL
articles related to SOUTHERN RAILWAY. (BTW if and when I create a list
I'll make a PDF and post it in a file section for this group!)

My second hit list would be anything between 1894-1953- after all
that's when Southern and STEAM were together.

It seems to me that members of this group might share a similar interest
and a similar frustration. How about a similar solution?

Gordon Andrews
very frustrated in Richmond, Virginia


Re: Iwata Airbrushes on Scottymason.com

Clark Cooper
 

I have no problems spraying Polly Scale with my 'H' brush. It's easier with a larger tip. The 'H' brush has three available tip sizes (H-1, H-3, and H-5), but is typically sold with the smallest (H-1). The complete tip assemblies only cost $10.95 retail from Paasche:

http://www.paascheairbrush.com/store/search.html

I thin about 25% with distilled water, pressure at around 25 pounds; clean the brush with cheap ammonia glass cleaner, occasionally disassemble and scrub out with micro-brushes.

-Clark Cooper

On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:23 PM, cepropst@q.com wrote:



I've used Iwata demonstrators at Trainfest and the NTS. The double action is quite a machine.

I still use my 'H'. I had a friend who could paint multi-color paint schemes with acrylics using his H. He would never tell me how he did it!

Anybody have consistent luck running Polly Scale or Badger thought their H for painting freight cars?

If so, what's the secret?

Clark Propst


Re: Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar

Ed Hawkins
 

On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Larry Kline wrote:

Was the Branchline Blueprint 40 ft postwar AAR boxcar produced
lettered for P&LE?

Does anyone have a photo of a Branchline Blueprint 40 ft, 6 ft door,
postwar AAR boxcar, lettered for P&LE, that I can use in my Naperville
talk next week?
Larry,
P&LE 5000-5999, Lot 774-B, built by Despatch Shops 3-49 can accurately
be modeled with the BT kits. However, I don't believe that BT produced
any P&LE kits.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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