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Lackawanna 40' PS-1 cars

Craig Zeni
 

The Morning Sun guide states that the DL&W's 200 40' PS-1s were built
with a 10' inside height rather than 10' 5". Best as I can tell from
the book's photos it looks like the top stiffening rib was lost in
the height reduction...but I can't pick it up on the sides relative
to the ladders. Any confirmation or hints from listers here?




--
Craig Zeni
Ihre ganze Unterseite sind gehören uns.


Re: Barber S-2 trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

In HO scale, Tahoe #109/#209

At 10/27/2010 09:38 AM Wednesday, you wrote:
In the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, No. 9, on page 47, the photo caption states the Milw 50-ton twin offset side hopper is equipped with Barber S-2 trucks with spring planks. Is this truck available as a model truck?
Lester Breuer


Re: Barber S-2 trucks

Dave Campbell <drdavecampbell@...>
 

Lester,

Oops, I assumed the HO part... sorry!

Dave Campbell


On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:38 AM, frograbbit602 <frograbbit602@yahoo.com>wrote:



In the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, No. 9, on page 47, the photo caption
states the Milw 50-ton twin offset side hopper is equipped with Barber S-2
trucks with spring planks. Is this truck available as a model truck?

Lester Breuer



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Re: Barber S-2 trucks

Dave Campbell <drdavecampbell@...>
 

Dear Lester,

Log on to google.com... select the 'shopping' option at the top.

Go to "advanced search" and enter "HO Barber S2" in the first field.

Dave Campbell


On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:38 AM, frograbbit602 <frograbbit602@yahoo.com>wrote:



In the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, No. 9, on page 47, the photo caption
states the Milw 50-ton twin offset side hopper is equipped with Barber S-2
trucks with spring planks. Is this truck available as a model truck?

Lester Breuer



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Re: Naperville model

Brian Ehni <behni@...>
 

Brilliant!

Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:42:51 -0400
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Naperville model







Outstanding display Clark! One picture captures the whole idea.

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/129769007

Tim O'Connor


Naperville model

Tim O'Connor
 

Outstanding display Clark! One picture captures the whole idea.

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/129769007

Tim O'Connor


Barber S-2 trucks

frograbbit602
 

In the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, No. 9, on page 47, the photo caption states the Milw 50-ton twin offset side hopper is equipped with Barber S-2 trucks with spring planks. Is this truck available as a model truck?

Lester Breuer


Re: Tank car types

tmolsen@...
 

I meant to say that this "AAR" tank car designation appeared in the latter part of this list's time period between January 1959 and our cut-off at the end of 1960. I have a gap in my ORERs between January 1959 and the January 1961 issue.

Perhaps someone else who has these registers can fill us in when this AAR designation appeared. It would be interesting to see what one of these tank cars looked like.

Tom Olsen
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479


Re: Tank car types

tmolsen@...
 

Tony and all,

The Class "TVI" is a very late STMFC tank car type, added to the listings sometime between mid-1959 and October 1961. My January 1961 (eff. October 31, 1960) shows the following AAR description of a "TVI" designation:

"TVI" - Tank car equipped with insulated container having an inner and outer shell with a vacuum in the annular space to AAR Specification 204-W."

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (H)
(302) 740-2897 (C)
tmolsen@udel.edu


Re: Naperville 2011

tmolsen@...
 

At the Friday evening dinner Joe stated that he thought that going into early November was a non-starter due to the unpredictability of the weather. Apparently, the concensus from those in the room was that no one wanted to attend in November for that reason.

He said that he was going to try to get the weekend prior to this years Naperville which would make it October 13th to the 16th, 2011. Joe stated that the Hotel had advised that the weekend of the 20th-23rd was booked with a number of weddings and the rooms would not be available.

We should urge Joe through his website, to post the dates as soon as he gets contracts signed. This will allow us to get our transportation reservations in early. For those that travel by train, the earlier the better.

This was the first year I came by train due to truck problems. It was an different experience traveling as a passenger as opposed to that as a railroad operations manager. No hot locomotive cabs and same day turn-arounds this time! Nothing to do but sit back, read, nap, and listen to the horn music as the Capitol Limited passed over all those grade crossings in the night!

I agree that the looser schedule did give us more time between the seminars. There was not the frantic run which was sometimes necessary to avoid being late. There was more time to socialize this past weekend and look over the excellent model displays in addition to the acquisition of photos and kits from Bob's Photos and the Sunshine selling room.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292 (H)
(302) 740-2897 (C)
tmolsen@udel.edu


Re: Naperville Images Posted

Rob & Bev Manley
 

David,
If I knew you were running out of power I could have asked Bob Kosic to cobble together a small cold fusion reactor from his left over power supply parts. I know some of the attendees were doccumenting our progress on the modules with lots of underside wiring and frame work fodoz. Mini_ Mod_U_Trak was looking real good too. They'll be back next year cutting more edges. Rumor has it that some of them are closet HO guys. We have some more modules to build but we will be working on scenery for the Harper college and Lyons Township shows as well as RPM.
The photos are greatly appreciated. They prove I was at the meet.
I had a lot of fun giving my clinics. It's very humbling to be appreciated by the modelers I admire so much.

Thank You,
Rob Manley

----- Original Message -----
From: dh30973
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Naperville Images Posted



I finally got my pictures from Naperville put together in the usual pBase gallery. This is most of the models on display. I was fighting low battery in my flash near the end and might have missed a couple on the far side of the room. I didn't get any pictures of the HO and N scale Mod-U-Trak layouts either.

Any spelling corrections are welcome along with names for the few that didn't identify their models.

Dave Hussey


Re: Warning Labels

Rob & Bev Manley
 

Rick,
Your welcome. Did your BBs ever grow a wierd milky fungus around themselves in older bottles? I used the copper plated kind.
Slainte'
Rob Manley

----- Original Message -----
From: gettheredesigns
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:52 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Warning Labels



Thank you Rob, great post. I've had a good experience with Polly Scale as well, using many of the precautions you described so thoroughly. When I first open a jar, I throw a half-dozen BBs in and shake the dickens out of it.
Peace, Rick Aylsworth

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Rob & Bev Manley" <robev1630@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> I use Polyscale for both brush painting and airbrushing. for the brush
> painting I use high quality artist brushes from Langneckl, Windsor Newton,
> Grumbacher and others found at real art stores. Never the cheap brushes from
> the LHS. They are watercolor sable or soft natural hair, some times for a
> stiffer bristle I will use the synthetics made for acrylics. I use the same
> bottle for airbrushing. I clean the top rim of the bottle and shake or stir
> the paint. Stirring when the muck is thick at the bottom and I can see other
> colors down there like blue to be mixed into the grey.
> I use a single action Paasche H with a number 3 tip. If I suspect an older
> bottle I will strain the paint into my feed cup. I use a clean Micro Sol
> bottle that I cut the bottom out of and drop a faucet screen into the funnel
> end. (inverted top of the bottle).
> I spray at 35 PSI with regulated/ filtered air into a holding tank. I thin
> with generic tasteless bottle water like Ice Mountain. Distilled water works
> too. Between color changes I dump the remaining paint into the trash can,
> flush with water and clean with a feed cup of Windex with amonia. If I use a
> stubborn color I'll run some Laquer Thinner through the brush. If I cant get
> a decent pattern out of the brush I''ll dissassemble it and swab out the
> brush, nozzle and cup with pipe cleaners and a Q-Tip.
> If I rush and mess up, I go to the sink, douse the model with Windex and
> scrub with luke warm water and an artist Oil natural bristle brush.
> I gloss coat with Future and give it a day before I decal. I use Polyscale
> flat finish thinnedto about 30 - 40% depending on how it looks in the
> bottle. Some batches can have more viscosity than others. I stopped using
> Isopropyl alcohol when I bought a bottle of 91% and turned my paint into a
> sludge. The non tap water works fine.
> I admit it does have a steep learning curve but the health benefits far out
> weigh it for me and my wife.
> Sincerely,
> Rob Manley
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dblake7@...>
> To: "Stmfc" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Warning Labels
>
>
> > John remember this. Water based paints are for kids to use for finger
> > painting! Denis Blake
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Golden <golden1014@...>
> > Sender: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:44:12
> > To: <stmfc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [STMFC] Warning Labels
> >
> > I told my wife today that the next time I say I'm going to paint a model
> > with
> > water-based paint, that she should take the biggest, heaviest iron skillet
> > we
> > have and SMASH ME over the head with it first. It would be a much more
> > efficient means of causing pain and complete frustration.
> >
> > Today, in just 45 minutes, I managed to ruin the roofs and ends of three
> > FGE
> > cars and a GN DS box car with splotches, blobs, paint oceans, and other
> > problems
> > from using water-based paint. I should've known better. And this was after
> > spending mucho Johnny-bucks on paint and thinners, cleaning the airbrush
> > for 45
> > minutes, cleaning numerous clogs and malfunctions, and most importantly
> > wasting
> > an hour away from the wife and kids. My reward for all this effort?
> > Another
> > four hours of work. Next the models will get sandblasted (again), then
> > dried,
> > then painted with good, old fashioned, sticky-but-perfect Scalecoat.
> >
> > No kidding; that stuff should have a Warning Label on it that reads
> > something
> > like this:
> >
> > Warning: This stuff approved for bush-painting only. DO NOT not attempt
> > to airbrush. Using this paint with an airbrush will cause irritation,
> > anxiety,
> > frustration, anger, and homicidal behavior. Excessive smashing of nearby
> > items
> > may result.
> >
> > Rant complete.
> >
> > John Golden
> > Bloomington, IN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


Rob McLear

Richard Hendrickson
 

Rob, please e-mail me off-list; I've mislaid your e-mail address.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Naperville 2011

deniskahl <denis.kahl@...>
 

Well this move after many years is a nuisance. I am planning a trip from Australia next year and having Naperville on the same weekend in 2011 would have been excellent. First weekend in October is a no go - Fall leaves in Colorado will come first.

Hopefully this will firm up fairly soon one way or the other.

Denis
Australia

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kremer <skremer@...> wrote:

I was told by Joe that it would be the first weekend in October. There
was a problem with the hotel and dates.

Scott Kremer

On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Gary Roe wrote:

I left Naperville on Sunday, not hearing or seeing anything official
about
next years' meet. I thought I overheard a couple folks saying that it
was
moving to the first weekend in November for next year. Does anyone
know for
sure?

gary roe
quincy, illinois




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Re: When did IC start modifying their 50' SS DD boxcars into single door cars?

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ray Breyer wrote:

It looks like this conversion is outside of the scope of this
group. My 1954 IC car diagram book doesn't show any of these cars
converted into single door cars (34990-34999 with the left door
sealed, but left in place), nor does my 1956. My 1964 book DOES:
cars 34700-34755 and 34850-34999, and the drawing shows a single 6'
wide door. Judging by the revision dates on the page I'd say that
the conversion to single door cars happened between 1959 and 1961.
All of the photos that I have of these cars are from the 1960s, so
it's a safe bet that these cars are a "1960s thing".
Ray is essentially correct, though the conversions actually started
somewhat earlier than 1959; the 10/58 ORER shows 19 cars, 34890-34899
(10) and 34990-34999 (9), XM class with 6' wide doors. I have a
photo of 34899, but at the time the photo was taken it had a 4/63
reweigh date.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Naperville Images Posted

Mark
 

Dave, thank you, really appreciate the photos. We hope to make it next year.
John Spencer's models sure look nice, right up my alley,B&O my favorite.

Mark Morgan

--- On Tue, 10/26/10, dh30973 <dhussey@cannonandco.net> wrote:

From: dh30973 <dhussey@cannonandco.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Naperville Images Posted
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 10:06 PM







 









Forgot to include the link



http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/naperville10

Dave



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "dh30973" <dhussey@...> wrote:

I finally got my pictures from Naperville put together in the usual pBase gallery. This is most of the models on display. I was fighting low battery in my flash near the end and might have missed a couple on the far side of the room. I didn't get any pictures of the HO and N scale Mod-U-Trak layouts either.
Any spelling corrections are welcome along with names for the few that didn't identify their models.
Dave Hussey


Naperville

Brian Carlson
 

I also wanted to comment on this past Naperville and say I had a good time.
The pace was a little less crammed than last year, and as others have said
attendance seemed down a little from previous years. The slower schedule
permitted more socializing time, and thankfully no fire alarm this year. I
also want to thank those who attended my clinic. Being a first time speaker
at Naperville I expected a low turnout for my talk. I was surprised I had
full rooms both times, and I ran out of handouts. Look forward to next year
depending on the weekend, may not be able to make early October if it moves.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@yahoo.com


Re: Naperville Images Posted

Brian Carlson
 

Dave the four photos between Stan pictures and Jeff Eggert's models are
mine. I forgot to make labels.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@yahoo.com



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dh30973
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:06 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Naperville Images Posted





Forgot to include the link

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/naperville10
Dave

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "dh30973"
<dhussey@...> wrote:

I finally got my pictures from Naperville put together in the usual pBase
gallery. This is most of the models on display. I was fighting low battery
in my flash near the end and might have missed a couple on the far side of
the room. I didn't get any pictures of the HO and N scale Mod-U-Trak layouts
either.

Any spelling corrections are welcome along with names for the few that
didn't identify their models.

Dave Hussey


Re: Warning Labels

gettheredesigns <rick@...>
 

Thank you Rob, great post. I've had a good experience with Polly Scale as well, using many of the precautions you described so thoroughly. When I first open a jar, I throw a half-dozen BBs in and shake the dickens out of it.
Peace, Rick Aylsworth

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Rob & Bev Manley" <robev1630@...> wrote:

John,
I use Polyscale for both brush painting and airbrushing. for the brush
painting I use high quality artist brushes from Langneckl, Windsor Newton,
Grumbacher and others found at real art stores. Never the cheap brushes from
the LHS. They are watercolor sable or soft natural hair, some times for a
stiffer bristle I will use the synthetics made for acrylics. I use the same
bottle for airbrushing. I clean the top rim of the bottle and shake or stir
the paint. Stirring when the muck is thick at the bottom and I can see other
colors down there like blue to be mixed into the grey.
I use a single action Paasche H with a number 3 tip. If I suspect an older
bottle I will strain the paint into my feed cup. I use a clean Micro Sol
bottle that I cut the bottom out of and drop a faucet screen into the funnel
end. (inverted top of the bottle).
I spray at 35 PSI with regulated/ filtered air into a holding tank. I thin
with generic tasteless bottle water like Ice Mountain. Distilled water works
too. Between color changes I dump the remaining paint into the trash can,
flush with water and clean with a feed cup of Windex with amonia. If I use a
stubborn color I'll run some Laquer Thinner through the brush. If I cant get
a decent pattern out of the brush I''ll dissassemble it and swab out the
brush, nozzle and cup with pipe cleaners and a Q-Tip.
If I rush and mess up, I go to the sink, douse the model with Windex and
scrub with luke warm water and an artist Oil natural bristle brush.
I gloss coat with Future and give it a day before I decal. I use Polyscale
flat finish thinnedto about 30 - 40% depending on how it looks in the
bottle. Some batches can have more viscosity than others. I stopped using
Isopropyl alcohol when I bought a bottle of 91% and turned my paint into a
sludge. The non tap water works fine.
I admit it does have a steep learning curve but the health benefits far out
weigh it for me and my wife.
Sincerely,
Rob Manley


----- Original Message -----
From: <dblake7@...>
To: "Stmfc" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Warning Labels


John remember this. Water based paints are for kids to use for finger
painting! Denis Blake
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: John Golden <golden1014@...>
Sender: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:44:12
To: <stmfc@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Warning Labels

I told my wife today that the next time I say I'm going to paint a model
with
water-based paint, that she should take the biggest, heaviest iron skillet
we
have and SMASH ME over the head with it first. It would be a much more
efficient means of causing pain and complete frustration.

Today, in just 45 minutes, I managed to ruin the roofs and ends of three
FGE
cars and a GN DS box car with splotches, blobs, paint oceans, and other
problems
from using water-based paint. I should've known better. And this was after
spending mucho Johnny-bucks on paint and thinners, cleaning the airbrush
for 45
minutes, cleaning numerous clogs and malfunctions, and most importantly
wasting
an hour away from the wife and kids. My reward for all this effort?
Another
four hours of work. Next the models will get sandblasted (again), then
dried,
then painted with good, old fashioned, sticky-but-perfect Scalecoat.

No kidding; that stuff should have a Warning Label on it that reads
something
like this:

Warning: This stuff approved for bush-painting only. DO NOT not attempt
to airbrush. Using this paint with an airbrush will cause irritation,
anxiety,
frustration, anger, and homicidal behavior. Excessive smashing of nearby
items
may result.

Rant complete.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Re: Naperville Images Posted

dh30973
 

Forgot to include the link

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/naperville10
Dave

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "dh30973" <dhussey@...> wrote:

I finally got my pictures from Naperville put together in the usual pBase gallery. This is most of the models on display. I was fighting low battery in my flash near the end and might have missed a couple on the far side of the room. I didn't get any pictures of the HO and N scale Mod-U-Trak layouts either.

Any spelling corrections are welcome along with names for the few that didn't identify their models.

Dave Hussey

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