This is an interesting thread. Personally, I would no sooner pick up
someone else's model without permission than I would fly to the moon.
Even when permission would be or is forthcoming, I still rarely do
so. Pretty fundamental courtesy .

On the other hand, the signs DO NOT TOUCH, or similar are perceived as
unfriendly turn-offs to many of these on lookers who we would really
like to embrace and/or serve (why otherwise would be displaying our
models?). In this regard, I would think that a more inviting, but
still cautionary notice can be posted to the order of, for instance:

"Exhibition Etiquette: In full respect for the model craftsman
displaying models for your enjoyment, we ask that all visitors fully
refrain from touching or handling ANY of the models on display, at any
time".

Perhaps wordy, but the idea is to speak courteously and respectfully;
and while unsaid, the big stick can still be there.

When all is said and done, however, there were still be some
recalcitrants who "were born in a barn" (my Mother's words).

A simple way to reduce both the urge and need for anyone to handle
models on exhibit is to raise the table heights significantly, such as
they did in Naperville some years ago, and Cocoa Beach soon
afterwards. I am simply amazed about how many outfits are still
absolutely blind to the fact that a significant part of the audience
that these meets should be attracting (those over 40-45) simply cannot
SEE models displayed on the standard folding tables. Bifocals make it
even worse.


Denny

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Al Brown wrote:

Plano Model Products sell etched-metal Apex running boards and dome
platforms for the Red Caboose car: their part #306. Usual
disclaimer: no business relationship, just a happy customer.

(Smack talk: I will show this car at Cocoa Beach. But, I'm not
saying which year!)

The Plano parts are nice, indeed. Tell you what, Al--you bring
your car and I'll bring mine. Mine is a project Jim Hayes started,
cutting down a Red Caboose tank to 4000-gallon size. He passed it on
to me, and I've detailed it, including cut-down Plano running boards
and dome platforms, new dome top equipment, brake gear, etc., and my
own decals for Stauffer Chemical.

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Don Burn wrote:
"I can't tell from the photo (N-scale version)
http://www.atlasrr.com/NFreight/n1932boxcar2.htm
what the roof is, perhaps someone can resolve it."

It's a Climax radial roof; unfortunately, from the photo, the detail appears to
be rather "lumpy" and not very sharp.


Ben Hom

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All,

I am hoping to find some drawings and/or photos of the Heinz Pickle car.

While I like the car with the exposed tanks I am more interested in the

"gondola" type. I saw it in a car builders I have but no plans were there.

They are for a project I want to do - a "good enough" run of 2 or 3 cars as

possibly my first scratchbuilding effort in S.. I could go for an HO plan

with a few basic dimensions if necessary or if there is a close (&

inexpensive) HO plastic car I could use for a reference.

Please reply directly with what you have.

Thank You,

Bill Lane

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Nah, it's an ego thing. Each of us fancies ourself an expert modeler, but that's always relative. Compared to Ted's models, my best ones look like they were done by Quasimodo on a bad day. Most of us can make the mental adjustment when confronted by really outstanding models, and humble ourselves accordingly. But some can't, and they tell themselves that they are as good as or better than the creator of the model at hand, and perfectly capable of handling it safely. So they do.

Tom "The bells, the bells!" Madden

I believe the Climax roof from Sunshine Models kit 38.1 may work. It's for a
SP B-50-15 boxcar. Glad to see someone has a different topic for discussion.



Larry Sexton





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Subject: [STMFC] C&O 12392-12999 single door boxcars





I have a waybill for C&O 12889 and wish to model the car. In 2005 and last
October (2009) there were some discussions about C&O's 12000-series auto box
cars. From those discussions, I understand that this single door car was in
the series 12392-12999 rebuilt from ex-Hocking Valley double-sheathed cars
in 1941 and 1942 with steel sides. The discussion said the 8'-8" interior
height was retained as were the 7/8 inverse Murphy ends and the Z-section
steel frame was visible along the side sills below the floor line. Another
post said that Climax radial roofs were used. None of the posts I saw
identified the type of door, the opening of which was 6'-6" x 8'-2", used on
the rebuilt cars.

I've been looking for HO models to use as a basis for this car that will
need, I imagine, scratchbuilt sides and a Climax radial roof from some other
kit.

I would appreciate any suggestions for modeling this car and sources for
diagrams, drawings, or photos of these rebuilt single door boxcars.

Thank you.

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ

Thanks Richard. I may not have been clear enough: I was referring to the built date and location which I've found on some in Metcalf's book. Guess I'll have to make them as they are not present in yellow on Speedwitch's set. I was going to do some data for 10'6" IH cars anyway...

Jerry Glow

Here's a list of common UP shop symbols where reweighing was done:
AR = Argo (Seattle) AT = Albina Terminal (Portland), OR + CB =
Council Bluffs, IA CH = Cheyenne, WY COL = Columbus, NE DE =
Denver + GI = Grand Island, NE + GR = Green River, WY LA = Los
Angeles NP = North Platte, NE NA = Nampa, ID OG = Ogden, UT OM =
Omaha + PO = Pocatello, ID WW = Walla Walla, WA (a + indicates a
larger shop where heavy repairs and repainting was carried out).