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Re: automobile boxcar wreck

tbarney2004
 

On 11/5/2010 2:16 PM, tyesac@aol.com wrote:
Mark,

Do my eyes deceive me, or does this car (end doors/fire truck load) have "CV" (Central Vermont) reporting marks? Was CV or CB&Q the original owner?

Tom Casey









-----Original Message-----
From: Mark M<bnonut@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:39 am
Subject: [STMFC] automobile boxcar wreck




Found on the CB&Q Historical site, enjoy! My earlier post about my cars, did these have National B1 trucks when delivered?

http://www.burlingtonroute.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=20

Mark Morgan


Looks like C. V. 412--- to me (I can't make out what's after the 412, or if the full # is 5 or 6 digits.

Tim Barney


NYC Lot 814-H 3-bay 70-ton offset side hopper cars

Mike Kmetz
 

What trucks would these cars have had when built in 1952?
Michael Kmetz


Re: proto 50' automobile boxcar Burlington

Mark
 

Thanks Al. I had better purchase #13! Saw a photo of 48500 in Train Shed #17. Really appreciate your reply.

Mark Morgan

--- On Fri, 11/5/10, al_brown03 <abrown@fit.edu> wrote:

From: al_brown03 <abrown@fit.edu>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: proto 50' automobile boxcar Burlington
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 6:11 AM







 









Burlington had two classes of 50' steel auto cars: classes XA-15A (48000-48224 and 49500-49674) and XA-15B (48500-48599). There were re-numberings later. Both series of XA-15A's came with AAR spring plankless trucks (of slightly different types); the XA-15B's came with National Type B trucks. Both classes had end doors; XA-15A's had Evans auto loaders, XA-15B's didn't. This info is from the article in RP CYC 13 on Burlington's steel auto cars.



Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mark M" <bnonut@...> wrote:

I have a pair of these and beleive the trucks might be incorrect and brake wheel used, any other thoughts?
Appreciate the help.
Mark Morgan


Re: automobile boxcar wreck

Mark
 

Looks like a CV car to me and believe Funaro has a kit for that one!

Mark Morgan

--- On Fri, 11/5/10, tyesac@aol.com <tyesac@aol.com> wrote:

From: tyesac@aol.com <tyesac@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] automobile boxcar wreck
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 2:16 PM







 











Mark,



Do my eyes deceive me, or does this car (end doors/fire truck load) have "CV" (Central Vermont) reporting marks? Was CV or CB&Q the original owner?



Tom Casey



-----Original Message-----

From: Mark M <bnonut@yahoo.com>

To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:39 am

Subject: [STMFC] automobile boxcar wreck



Found on the CB&Q Historical site, enjoy! My earlier post about my cars, did these have National B1 trucks when delivered?



http://www.burlingtonroute.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=20



Mark Morgan





























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Plug for a Dealer

Riley K <riley050748@...>
 

I bought a kit from Valley Railroad Models today , first of all because he had a nice selection of F&C kits, and the price and shipping was attractive. Two hours after I ordered the owner called and said he found problems with the parts in the kit. I substituted another and it was mailed today.Just a shameless plug for this dealer found at:

http://cart.valleyrailroadmodeltrains.com/

Riley Kinney


Re: automobile boxcar wreck

Benjamin Hom
 

Tom Casey asked:
"Do my eyes deceive me, or does this car (end doors/fire truck load) have "CV"
(Central Vermont) reporting marks?"
http://www.burlingtonroute.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=20

Yes - CV 412xx (x=not legible) is the reporting mark on the end.


"Was CV or CB&Q the original owner?"

Don't get confused by Mark's crossthreading - this photo is NOT related to his
CB&Q automobile boxcar question.  CV 41000-41499, end door single sheathed
automobile boxcars built 1929, Funaro & Camerleng HO scale kits first marketed
by The Steam Shack of Rutland VT, currently available in Funaro's own line:
http://www.fandckits.com/HOFreight/6651.html


Ben Hom


Re: automobile boxcar wreck

tyesac@...
 

Mark,

Do my eyes deceive me, or does this car (end doors/fire truck load) have "CV" (Central Vermont) reporting marks? Was CV or CB&Q the original owner?

Tom Casey

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark M <bnonut@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:39 am
Subject: [STMFC] automobile boxcar wreck




Found on the CB&Q Historical site, enjoy! My earlier post about my cars, did these have National B1 trucks when delivered?

http://www.burlingtonroute.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=20

Mark Morgan







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WMRX (MDT) Insulated Boxcars

wm501jra
 

Greetings,

I would like to model several of these cars leased by the WM in 1956. These were originally built by MDT in sept 1931 apparently for Northern Refrigerator Line. Here's a pic previously referenced during the much discussed "swaged or lapper rivet seams" http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/wmrx-9.jpg

I am having trouble finding a good starting point for these as they seem much taller than most Refrig. cars of this era and have some sort of 5/3 Despatch looking end. Any suggestions or additional info on these would be appreciated. I have done the artwork for decals so I'm anxious to build one one this winter!



Some other info I have on these:

 IH 9'-3"

EXH 14'-9" (rail to running board)

Doors: 8' x 8.5' Camel "sliding" (plug door)

CU FT 3155

ROOF - SREMCo ("flat panel")

Insulation - 4"  Ultralite sides, ends, roof, 2.5" Hairfelt floor.



Thanks,

Jeff Adams

WMRHS



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Re: proto 50' automobile boxcar Burlington

al_brown03
 

Burlington had two classes of 50' steel auto cars: classes XA-15A (48000-48224 and 49500-49674) and XA-15B (48500-48599). There were re-numberings later. Both series of XA-15A's came with AAR spring plankless trucks (of slightly different types); the XA-15B's came with National Type B trucks. Both classes had end doors; XA-15A's had Evans auto loaders, XA-15B's didn't. This info is from the article in RP CYC 13 on Burlington's steel auto cars.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Mark M" <bnonut@...> wrote:

I have a pair of these and beleive the trucks might be incorrect and brake wheel used, any other thoughts?

Appreciate the help.
Mark Morgan


automobile boxcar wreck

Mark
 

Found on the CB&Q Historical site, enjoy! My earlier post about my cars, did these have National B1 trucks when delivered?

http://www.burlingtonroute.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=20

Mark Morgan


Re: RPM Etiquette

Schuyler Larrabee
 

So, is he still alive? I mean, shooting him in the back like that wasn't
cricket, but still . . .

SGL



years ago, I was asked to do a weathering clinic in Spokane, WA and
naturally I brought along some of my built up models - making it almost like
a mini RPM meet. After the clinic, and as I was standing right there, some
guy walked up to the table and grabbed a Detail Associates GS gondola that I
had totally stripped to the bone and rebuilt to match a NP prototype. It was
oil weathered and had a timber load in it - that I was a board-by-board
load. He grabbed it like it was a banana sitting there, wrapping his fingers
around the car. He flipped it over to look at the underframe - oddly enough
with four of his fingers blocking the view. Needless the say, the air left
my lungs and all I could say was, "I've got 55 hours in that car!! What are
you doing?!?" He just froze, I mean like Michelanglo's Statue of David. I
very carefully peeled back his fingers and extracted the car from his grasp.
Upon inspecting it for damage I quickly saw that just about every brake rod
was bend and other details were damaged. I looked at him with shock on my
face, he looked at me completely emotionless, and without saying a word
turned and walked away like nothing happened.

;-)

-Ryan








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proto 50' automobile boxcar Burlington

Mark
 

I have a pair of these and beleive the trucks might be incorrect and brake wheel used, any other thoughts?

Appreciate the help.
Mark Morgan


Re: RPM Etiquette

Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

While this is a genuinely worthy topic for discussion much of what has been said has not really been constructive. We have all agreed that models should be picked up only with permission. That point is settled.

Are we to be an incestuous group, unwelcoming to newcomers and beginners? Or are we just about the most clever group ever assembled and entirely capable of finding a simple, intelligent way to, on the one hand, protect models from finger prints and damage and, on the other hand, find a way to satisfy the curiosity of others - or is theirs a desire to learn from experts - and not turn them off to the hobby? After all, their spending supports the manufacturers we want to keep in business. And perhaps we should refrain from referring to them by unflattering names, even among ourselves.

Let me offer a suggestion just to get a discussion going. Don't we all have digital cameras and good photo printers? Six large photos, one of each side, would go a long way towards showing the model without it being touched. But we could allow the photos to be handled, couldn't we?

Gene Green


Re: C&O 12392-12999 single door boxcars

water.kresse@...
 

They look like 1 1/2 doors to me.



Howard Ameling has three good pix of these " almost double-door" cars. 



The four series of cars are shown on C&O FC Diag Sheets 33 (single) and 34 (double-door) issued out of Cleveland, Ohio.  Those would be in one of the 1960s books that the C&O HS has for sale.



Al K resse

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Roth" <kenwroth@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 8:35:40 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: C&O 12392-12999 single door boxcars

While we're on the subject of C&O boxcars, I would like to know if
anyone has info or pictures of C&O double door series 12000-12168.  I
want to accurately model #12052.  Would these have similar features to
12392-12999?

     Thanks,
     Ken Roth






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Re: C&O 12392-12999 single door boxcars

Ken Roth
 

While we're on the subject of C&O boxcars, I would like to know if
anyone has info or pictures of C&O double door series 12000-12168. I
want to accurately model #12052. Would these have similar features to
12392-12999?

Thanks,
Ken Roth


Re: C&O 12392-12999 single door boxcars

roblmclear <rob.mclear2@...>
 

I am not all that well aquainted with the Viking roof but the Norfolk Southern car in the advertisement has something different from the others is that a Viking roof?

Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Don Burn wrote:
"I can't tell from the photo (N-scale version)
http://www.atlasrr.com/NFreight/n1932boxcar2.htm
what the roof is, perhaps someone can resolve it."

It's a Climax radial roof; unfortunately, from the photo, the detail appears to
be rather "lumpy" and not very sharp.


Ben Hom

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Re: BLI NYC all-steel box cars

rwitt_2000
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

Bob

Are those etched running boards? They have a very thin profile.
Tim,

In one of the views the manner they curve, they look like they are thin
metal thus etched.

Bob Witt


Re: Red Caboose 103W welded tank car (& Cocoa Beach)

Tim O'Connor
 

Al

I wish there were such a decal set. Red Caboose actually produced this
model lettered USAX, but they chose a number series for a GATC built car
(catalog # RC-3032-x)

Tim O'Connor

I'm doing the 103W as a USAX car, and am about ready to letter it. In reviewing the kit (RMJ 4/96 p 56), Richard Hendrickson used Walthers decal set 131380. Walthers no longer catalogue their own decals. Does anyone know of a source for this set, or another source for an HO scale Army Transportation Corps logo? I think I can cobble up the rest of the lettering from other sets.

TIA

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: BLI NYC all-steel box cars

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Yes, but you have been known to OPERATE trains at clubs, so that seems just a tad disingenuous... not to mention a tiny bit elitist.
"Disingenuous"? If and when I do operate at clubs, I am respectful of the equipment (in fact have been known to volunteer to fix cars that need repair or are GLARINGLY unweathered). And I don't bring my own equipment to those clubs, not even my older upgraded Athearn stuff. Is that somehow "elitist" or do you recommend that I attempt to reach the lowest common denominator of modeling and equipment handling to show how egalitarian I am? Or are you just blowing a little smoke?
I have no quarrel with those who have the stamina, energy and thick skin to continue to be active in clubs. I've been there and don't want to do that any more.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: RPM Etiquette

Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
 

"Beware of spiders" -- that has only 3 words!
I was thinking a sign that says "Wet Paint" - that's only two words.

Ned

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