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Re: AAR Standard twin offset side hopper with oval ends?

bob_karig <karig@...>
 

Just to add to the confusion, the terms Standard and Alternate Standard are being used differently than how the AAR used them. The principal difference between Standard and Alternate Standard as far as the AAR was concerned was in the construction of the underframe and various components. The Alternate Standard, proposed by Unitcast and General Steel Castings, had cast steel components. The only alternate standard body proposed by those two companies had the same layout as the Standard.

The Erie and C&O cars, which are now being called Alternate Standard, were, in fact, considered Standard by the AAR.

Bob Karig


Re: Crescent Lines 40' Express Reefer CL 1998; and WIF #332

SUVCWORR@...
 

Denny,

Crescent Lines is the fictional railroad of the Crescent City Model Railroad club. The line runs from N.O. to K.C.

Rich Orr

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Sent: Sat, Jan 22, 2011 8:07 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Crescent Lines 40' Express Reefer CL 1998; and WIF #332


While rooting around for my WIF car, I uncovered a mysterious unbuilt Athearn

blue box kit containing an apparent custom-decorated steel 40' reefer with

silver ends/roof, dark olive or PG sides with very, very neat gold (not Duco or

yellow) lettering and badge for CRESCENT LINES. In tiny neat lettering next to

the swing doors, it says "For Crayfish Loading ONly".



Its a foobie all right, but a very handsome one at that. I would not mind

learning of its provenance. Does it ring any bells for any of the listers? If

it was a convention car (New Orleans?), it is one the most acceptable I have yet

seen.



BTW, my c. 1959-60 Kurtz Craft WIF car is #332 with a New date of 7/1956- the

decals just as they came from the Champ envelope. The car is weathered with oils

just as I had just learned at the time from Paul Janssen. Not bad, even today.

However, I am chagrined to admit that the end lettering was applied to the.....

tack boards (What *was* I thinking? (:-)). I do get some points inasmuch as

both side tack boards actually have neatly-applied route cards.





Denny



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Re: Crescent Lines 40' Express Reefer CL 1998; and WIF #332

George Hollwedel
 

I believe it is a Lone Star Region special run car for the club in New Orleans.

Prototype N Scale Models (TM)
by George Hollwedel
PO Box 143566
Austin, TX 78714-3566
512-579-0539
512-796-6883 cell
http://intermountain-railway.com/n/sr/html/GHollWPN.htm
http://www.micro-trains.com/sr-1011-hollwedel.php
http://www.micro-trains.com/hollwedel.php
http://www.atlasrr.com/special.htm
http://intermountain-railway.com/n/sr/nsr.htm

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From: dennyanspach <danspach@macnexus.org>
Subject: [STMFC] Crescent Lines 40' Express Reefer CL 1998; and WIF #332
To: "Era Freight Car List Steam" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:07 PM
While rooting around for my WIF car,
I uncovered a mysterious unbuilt Athearn blue box kit
containing an apparent custom-decorated steel 40' reefer
with silver ends/roof, dark olive or PG sides with very,
very neat gold (not Duco or yellow) lettering and badge for
CRESCENT LINES. In tiny neat lettering next to the swing
doors, it says "For Crayfish Loading ONly". 

Its a foobie all right, but a very handsome one at
that.  I would not mind learning of its
provenance.   Does it ring any bells for any
of the listers? If it was a convention car (New Orleans?),
it is one the most acceptable I have yet seen. 

BTW, my c. 1959-60 Kurtz Craft WIF car is #332 with a New
date of 7/1956- the decals just as they came from the Champ
envelope. The car is weathered with oils just as I had just
learned at the time from Paul Janssen. Not bad, even
today.  However, I am chagrined to admit that the end
lettering was applied to the..... tack boards  (What
*was* I thinking?  (:-)). I do get some points inasmuch
as both side tack boards actually have neatly-applied route
cards.


Denny

Denny S.  Anspach MD
Sacramento







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Re: Rationalizing periodicals, cont'd.

Andy Harman
 

I pretty much have every railroad-oriented book, magazine, periodical, annual that I've ever acquired. Including quite a few from before I was born. I find it pretty fascinating to look at the ads from back then, or see 60 year old rolling stock being pitched as new. Storage hasn't been a problem, lugging it all has been... I actually have them reasonably organized, but many are in off-site storage. I don't regret hanging onto them, nor do I have any disposition plan I can live with. Cutting them isn't really an option - the effort would be monumental and as Denny pointed out, I'd be making future decisions in the present. Plus, one of the things I like most about the old magazines is the overall tone of them - in particular ads, product reviews, etc. that reflect the times and that's why I enjoy just grabbing a random 1956 MR from the dusty pile and reading it as if it's all new to me.

BTW, I love the musty smell. It's just a "train" smell to me - old magazines, basements, whatever.

Andy


Crescent Lines 40' Express Reefer CL 1998; and WIF #332

dennyanspach <danspach@...>
 

While rooting around for my WIF car, I uncovered a mysterious unbuilt Athearn blue box kit containing an apparent custom-decorated steel 40' reefer with silver ends/roof, dark olive or PG sides with very, very neat gold (not Duco or yellow) lettering and badge for CRESCENT LINES. In tiny neat lettering next to the swing doors, it says "For Crayfish Loading ONly".

Its a foobie all right, but a very handsome one at that. I would not mind learning of its provenance. Does it ring any bells for any of the listers? If it was a convention car (New Orleans?), it is one the most acceptable I have yet seen.

BTW, my c. 1959-60 Kurtz Craft WIF car is #332 with a New date of 7/1956- the decals just as they came from the Champ envelope. The car is weathered with oils just as I had just learned at the time from Paul Janssen. Not bad, even today. However, I am chagrined to admit that the end lettering was applied to the..... tack boards (What *was* I thinking? (:-)). I do get some points inasmuch as both side tack boards actually have neatly-applied route cards.


Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: Rationalizing periodicals, cont'd.

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

denny anspach wrote:

The problem with cutting out articles for future reference is that they represent only your particular interests and inclinations at the time, not what your interests and inclinations might be at some future date when by serendipity you discover that you saved articles that have no relevance to current needs.
Well said. Whenever I research a topic, including the use of the trains.com index, I often find that I actually DO need some issue I haven't looked at for years. I rarely cut issues, and either keep or discard them, partly the librarian in me, but I tend to keep if in doubt. I once had a complete run of MR from the late 1940s to the then- current date, and realized that from about 1962 to 1975 the magazines were VERY thin and not interesting (I was struck by all the magazine ads in those years for SLOT CARS). That segment is gone. I do have (and definitely use) a complete run of Mainline and RMJ.
I've usually found that clubs are happy to take stacks of these magazines, whether to give away or sell.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Rationalizing periodicals, cont'd.

dennyanspach <danspach@...>
 

After a solid week of seeking and hearing advice -both bad and good- re: "What To Do" re: collected railroad and railroad-hobby periodicals and paper ephemera here is what I did and why:

1) Everything year 2000 forward was fair game, at least this time around. The previous decade may go on the block next.

2) Each publication would be evaluated broadly for "value-received" (as I now do routinely now each year at renewal time with ALL periodicals and publications). With regard to those periodicals already paid for and received, this exercise consisted of a cold evaluation of a) Have I ever yet looked back at any of these issues, or wished that I could?; and 2) Is there anything is contents that I cannot do without, or cannot get either on line or from friends, or from the library just down the street? Are there printed plans.....?

3) If publications are to go on the discard pile, are there likely local recipients, free or otherwise. If so, would these same recipients be willing to accept them FOB; and if FOB, now; not next week. At almost 77 years, I no longer am handy, or willing to be handy hauling these around town, much less carrying them boxed, two handed, down flights of stairs.

4) Almost all periodicals 2008 forwards were to be kept for the time being. However, some critical assessment will continue as to whether I indeed need volumes that far back, or even more than just a year ago. At least one popular periodical will now be going directly into the discard soon after each issue. It may not be renewed.

Well, I struck out. No recipients, willing or otherwise. As a result, with a few exceptions, all went into the recycle. I did leaf through them first, or at least through the table of contents. I did tear out plans (rare birds 2001 forward, however), and a few good articles (not excluding an excellent article on a Brass Corn Field by Bill D.).

I was flummoxed by an excellent two part article on kit-bashing the B&O National Limited (Bob Chapman), when I found it to share back-to-back pages with some guy flogging a layout that ran through Buford, WY. Knowing that the owner probably had boxes (boxes!) of bronzed copies of this same article under his layout just waiting to be handed out, I felt safe placing the original on the discard pile.

The problem with cutting out articles for future reference is that they represent only your particular interests and inclinations at the time, not what your interests and inclinations might be at some future date when by serendipity you discover that you saved articles that have no relevance to current needs.

You cannot win for losing!

Denny












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Re: Photos-Topeka Chapter, NRHS

Aley, Jeff A
 

Bill,

Surprisingly, there are only 3 or 4 freight car photos in the collection. (One might have expected a plethora of ATSF photos; I think most of them ended up at the the Kansas State Historical Society).

The collection is available from the Chapter on CD (which is how I got it). You can contact chapter president Larry Tiffany at ltiffany at cox.net<mailto:ltiffany@cox.net> .

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lnbill
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:03 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Photos-Topeka Chapter, NRHS



Jeff

Could you help me/us get to these photos. Are there more freight cars? I have tried but could not find photos.

Bill Welch


Re: WIF 104

Bruce Smith
 

Tim,

Good point... The WIF car needs the ARA rivet pattern and not the X29
pattern.

However, a simple change of base kit solves the problem, as the patch
panel body need not have the correct rivet pattern. With the RC cars
now in front of me, I can say unequivocally that all you would need
would be a RC 7003 ARA Plate End Box Car Kit (or just the body) and the
X29 patch panel body. Both kits are currently listed in stock at the RC
web site and you might be able to just order the bodies. Its a shame
that Ted has cut back on his model sales as his M26 kit would give you
the ARA body and the Duryea underframe! Careful cutting of this body,
removing just the bottom sill would give you the upper piece you needed.
Cutting the X29 body just above the patch panel would give you the
patch panels and side sills. Note that the RC patch panels are riveted
while the WIF cars are welded, so you would need to remove the rivets
(except for those that need to remain at the bolsters and crossbearers)
but that would be a snap. The RC patch panels have no seams, and my
impression of the WIF cars is not of overlapping patch panels, but that
the apparent seams are weld lines, easily replicated with Archer weld
lines. Looking at the car ends, I might cut the ARA body end off just
below the horizontal seam and use the upper part of the X29 end to fill
in the lower part of the WIF car's end thereby hiding the seam on the
end.

If I had an ARA body on hand (and did not have a million other things to
do), I stand by my earlier statement... I could have this done by
Monday.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

"Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@comcast.net> 01/21/11 6:30 PM >>>
But Bruce, RC only produced patch panels for the 1924 X29 body,
not for the ARA 1923 body or the 1928 X29 body. So if you swapped
unpatched 1924 bodies for patched bodies, your "extra" bodies all
have the wrong riveting for the WIF cars. I think they are only
good for B&O and W&LE/NKP.

Tim O'Connor


Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)

Tim O'Connor
 

I purchased mine on Ebay for $24.95. Patience is sometimes rewarded.

All things considered, I think that is the most I would ever pay
for this model.

Tim O'Connor

At 1/22/2011 01:30 PM Saturday, you wrote:
If anyone truly is interested, here's a hobby shop with a 3 car set of these
cars http://www.modellbahnott.blogspot.com/ price is now $148.34, up just a
little from the retail. Of course the cars are still shown on Trix's website
http://www.trixtrains.com/american_freight2.html#rolling

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: AAR Standard twin offset side hopper with oval ends?

proto48er
 

Tim & guys -

I am somewhat incorrect in stating that Erie had both AAR Std and Alt Std twin offset hoppers! I was confused by a photo on p. 91 of Vol 2 of the RPC - it shows a photo of Erie #28000-28599. This series of cars had small angles along the top, evenly spaced, like an AAR Std car, BUT it has sides that have diagonal creases like the Alt Std cars! It is neither fish nor fowl! Sorry about that!

Also, I have uploaded, pending approval, 7 photos of the models of the AAR Std and Alt Std cars to show some of the differences in their construction. These are in the Photos Section entitled "AAR Std twin hopper models". Maybe this will clear up some of the mystery of these cars.

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "proto48er" <atkott@...> wrote:

Tim -

I think that Erie did have both AAR Std and Alt Std design double offset side hoppers. They had two series of them. Train stuff is at home - can provide number series tomorrow if interested.

Curiously, in "O" scale, we have had scads of Alt Std models in brass - from PSC and Rich Yoder Models, but these PSC cars (#17217, #17215, and #17213) are the only brass AAR Std cars in brass we have.

A.T. Kott


Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)

Douglas Harding
 

If anyone truly is interested, here's a hobby shop with a 3 car set of these
cars http://www.modellbahnott.blogspot.com/ price is now $148.34, up just a
little from the retail. Of course the cars are still shown on Trix's website
http://www.trixtrains.com/american_freight2.html#rolling



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Slack adjusters for C&O and ERIE 40ft PS-1 box cars

Mark Heiden
 

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know if the two groups of 40ft PS-1 boxcars listed below had slack adjusters?

CO 16000-16999, 1000 cars in Lot 5983, built December, 1950

ERIE 86500-86989, 490 cars in Lot 8175, built February, 1954

Thanks,
Mark Heiden


Re: WIF and more

Norm Buckhart
 

this is all very interesting - does anyone have pictures of any of the car ferries? I would love to see some. thanks, Norm Buckhart

On Jan 21, 2011, at 7:20 PM, S hed wrote:


Hey everyone,

I think when one discusses the freight cars of the West India Fruit & Steamship Co you also need to mention their car ferrys. Not only because the WIF used car ferrys to transport railroad cars between the US and Cuba but the silouettes of their ships was plastered on the side of their cars.

First a quick summary of the car ferry business between the US and Cuba:
- 1915: Florida East Coast Ferry Company, which is owned by FEC, starts service between Key West and Havana.
- 1935: Service is moved from Key West to Port Everglades due to a pesky hurricane.
- 1946: WIF purchases the FEC Ferry Co and moves operations from Port Everglades to Port of Palm Beach mainly because of the superior yard facilities.
- 1957: Traffic is at an all time high with the WIF handling 500,000 tons of cargo between the US and Cuba.
- 1961: Ferry service to Havana ends on August 7, 1961 because of some pesky communists.

The WIF attempted to stay in business but sometime soon after 1961 they closed their doors.

Car Ferrys - Florida East Coast Ferry Co
* Henry M Flagler -> built in 1914 and was acquired by the US Navy in July 1941. The it was refitted as a minelayer and renamed the USS Keokuk (CM-8). Sold to the WIF in March 1947. Fate is unknown.
* Joseph R Parrott -> built in 1916 for the FEC Ferry Co and was acquired by the US Navy in June 1942. It was refitted as a minelayer and renamed the USS Shawmut (CM-11). Sold to the WIF in March 1947. Disposed of in the 1970.
* Estrade Palmer

Car Ferrys - West India Ferry
* City of Havana -> only hauled passengers and their autos between Havana and Key West (500 people and 125 autos).
* Grand Haven -> built in 1903 and operated by the Grand Trunk Line as the Grand Haven. Bought by the WIF in 1946 and was scrapped in 1970.
* Henry M Flagler
* Joseph R Parrott
* New Grand Haven -> built in 1948 for the WIF by Canadian Vickers of Montreal. Acquired by the Canadian National in the 1960s and renamed the "Patrick Morris." It sank in the North Atlantic in 1970 while responding to an SOS. It was the largest car ferry in the world when built.
* Sea Level

Car Ferry Notes:
Up to 26 box cars could be switched onto a car ferry and the switching was done by the FEC at the Port of Palm Beach. At the height of the operations in 1957, the WIF had 5 vessels operating between Havanna and Florida. And the operations saw an average of 80 cars a day.

Freight Cars
- 101 to 110 -> the car series that led to this thread.
- 200 to 349 -> AC&F, built in Jan 1952.
- 500 to 649 -> unknown. 50 cars in 155 and 50 cars in 1959.
- 650 to 699 -> unknown. 50 cars in 1959.
- 800 to ??? --> mechanical reefer that looks like it was rebuilt by FGE from wooden reefers. Car history is unknown.

I know that there are models of WIF reefers by Accurail in the 700 series but I have not seen any listed in any ORER.

One last thing about WIF box cars. The silouette of the car ferry on the sides of cars comes from the silouettes of their ships. And the ship silouettes are different on each series of cars including ones in the same series.

That's all I have. Steve Hedlund



To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
From: toddchorton@rocketmail.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:00:36 -0800
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: WIF 104






How long did the WIF cars last? Todd Horton

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Subject: [STMFC] Re: WIF 104


I am pretty certain this happened post war. It has never been clear to me when
WIF came into existence exactly, but I did find some materials in the CofG/FGE
files in Savannah, GA that indicated after WWII.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Maybe I missed it early in this thread, but when did the transfer to
WIF of the 10 cars occur?

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:03 AM, thomas christensen wrote:

Tim and group,
According to Ted Culotta's "Steam Era Freight Cars Reference
Manual, Vol. 1:
Box and Autombile Cars", the HPT&D cars are indeed 1923 ARA cars,
but with a
10'0" IH. Also says 25 cars and from the photos shows a build date
of 8-29.

Tom Christensen

Tim O'Conner wrote:
The car is ex-HPT&D (High Point Thomasville & Denton) and is not an
ARA 1923 design. As you point out it's much taller! Perhaps it is
like
the SAL cars (built by Pullman?) with riveted ends and roofs,
based on
the 1932 ARA design?








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Re: San Juan GS gondola

Tim O'Connor
 

Thanks for the info. Very sad news.

Tim O'

Tim,

I discussed this with John Parker (San Juan Car Co.) at the Narrow Gauge Convention in St. Louis and he indicated that it may never happen. If I understood him, it seems that there is a problem with getting the castings out of the mold, that they are too big and don't cast out right. Also, with his mold maker gone, it may not be something that can be re-done.

Merlyn Lauber
Caboose Stop Hobbies


Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)

Larry Sexton
 

Perhaps I should start the feedback by saying that the side running boards
appear as thick or thicker as those on the traditional blue box tankcars of
yesteryear and the underframe does not extend to the bolsters. This is very
visible at track level. There also appear to be problems with how the cut
levers are installed. Comments appreciated.



Larry Sexton



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Larry Sexton
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:49 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)





Is there any possibility that Ed Hawkins, or some knowledgeable person on
this list, could and will provide comments on the specific areas that make
this 6000 gallon tankcar unacceptable and unredeemable. Individuals on this
list have previously been able to turn some real "pig's ears into a silk
purses" to use an old folk phrase. So why is this car so different?

As to cost, the $38/car sticker price on the boxes I have is no worse than
the price quoted or the Rapido reefers and less that the cost of the
WrightTrak B&O M53 cars.

I wish I'd carried through on my plan to carry a couple of cars to Cocoa
Beach this month so I could lay it on the table and obtain specific feedback
as to its inaccuracies and crude details. And yes, I recognize it can use
improvements, the real question is what are they.

Larry Sexton

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:04 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)

On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Richard

It turns out I have quite a large number of emails that talk about
the M/T tank car, most of them are quite harshly critical of the cars
in general terms. Many of them go into some detail on the failed
attempts
to help M/T produce a good model of these important cars...

HOWEVER, none of the emails, from Ed Hawkins, or yourself, actually
goes into any details about what specifically is wrong with the model.

I have one, and I can see that it is somewhat crude -- BUT do you have
a list of actual errors made by M/T (e.g. dimensional errors)? I'm
just
curious as many people have over the years discussed ways to utilize
the ancient Athearn single dome tank cars (CRUDE with a capital C) to
make reasonably good models. Is there nothing I can do to make this
6,000 gallon car look any better??
I'm not in a position to critique the model in detail, because I
don't have one. All I can say is that at the time they came out, I
thought they were so bad that I didn't consider buying one and trying
to fix it. Maybe Ed can say more about specific shortcomings.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)

Larry Sexton
 

Is there any possibility that Ed Hawkins, or some knowledgeable person on
this list, could and will provide comments on the specific areas that make
this 6000 gallon tankcar unacceptable and unredeemable. Individuals on this
list have previously been able to turn some real "pig's ears into a silk
purses" to use an old folk phrase. So why is this car so different?



As to cost, the $38/car sticker price on the boxes I have is no worse than
the price quoted or the Rapido reefers and less that the cost of the
WrightTrak B&O M53 cars.



I wish I'd carried through on my plan to carry a couple of cars to Cocoa
Beach this month so I could lay it on the table and obtain specific feedback
as to its inaccuracies and crude details. And yes, I recognize it can use
improvements, the real question is what are they.



Larry Sexton

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:04 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Marklin/Trix ICC 105 (was Stauffer Tank Car)





On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Richard

It turns out I have quite a large number of emails that talk about
the M/T tank car, most of them are quite harshly critical of the cars
in general terms. Many of them go into some detail on the failed
attempts
to help M/T produce a good model of these important cars...

HOWEVER, none of the emails, from Ed Hawkins, or yourself, actually
goes into any details about what specifically is wrong with the model.

I have one, and I can see that it is somewhat crude -- BUT do you have
a list of actual errors made by M/T (e.g. dimensional errors)? I'm
just
curious as many people have over the years discussed ways to utilize
the ancient Athearn single dome tank cars (CRUDE with a capital C) to
make reasonably good models. Is there nothing I can do to make this
6,000 gallon car look any better??
I'm not in a position to critique the model in detail, because I
don't have one. All I can say is that at the time they came out, I
thought they were so bad that I didn't consider buying one and trying
to fix it. Maybe Ed can say more about specific shortcomings.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: WIF 104

barryb2again <Barrybennetttoo@...>
 

Gentlemen, and others.

Thank you for your very informative discourse on this subject.

I have emailed Steve Funaro re the HPT&D kit and suggested a re-issue of the kit with, perhaps also WIF decals, although I would be happy without as I have my own little stash.

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England.


Photographer - Jerry Appleman

Charles Harris
 

Hi

Anyone got a working email for Jerry Appleman, photographer ?

Thanks

Charlie


Re: San Juan GS gondola

Merlyn Lauber
 

Tim,

I discussed this with John Parker (San Juan Car Co.) at the Narrow Gauge Convention in St. Louis and he indicated that it may never happen. If I understood him, it seems that there is a problem with getting the castings out of the mold, that they are too big and don't cast out right. Also, with his mold maker gone, it may not be something that can be re-done.

Merlyn Lauber
Caboose Stop Hobbies

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:13:23 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [STMFC] San Juan GS gondola

Anyone know what happened to the San Juan SP G-50-23 GS gondola
kit in Proto:48 scale? This was 'announced' several years ago but
I see the price is still TBA...

http://www.sanjuancarco.com/?page_id=238

Tim O'Connor

96281 - 96300 of 192688