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Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

Thanks Dave, Larry and Guy,
The only question remaining is, how full were the cars?
Clark


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

David Lenehan <david_lenehan@...>
 

ibs4421@commandnet.net wrote:

Richard "opined"
The more I hear from people who have
registered with Yahoo, the more determined I become not to do so.

Richard and all,
I am certainly no big fan of Yahoo!, but I have never had a moments trouble out fo them in over two years of usage. I don't understand why ya'll are havingso much trouble, and yet I have none.
Warren,

At last - a glimmer of understanding. It must be a loyalty thing! After continuous problems, I have had to remove myself twice from the Yeehaw! system (until I couldn't access any of the lists) then rejoin and
put up with all the BS (it won't let me use my own e-mail address to receive messages from the lists) as I joined. Now here's the really prime bit. Upon resubscribing as a member of Yeehaw! I have found that, even
though I couldn't access anything as a non-subscriber, I was still listed everywhere I had previously been subscribed - both times. And for a while everything worked normally. Bah Humbug to Yeehaw!

It all just gets right up my nose . . .
. . . though I'm still smiling.

Regards
David Lenehan


Re: W.A Drake/Red Caboose GATX tank cars

Bill Welch <bwelch@...>
 

I ordered mine thru Central Hobby supply. I know of someone on this list who is working on producing a set of decals of the GATX scheme, but I don't want to make that public until either I have his permission or the sets are actually a reality. I will try to keep you posted.

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On 3/26/01, at 3:53 PM, Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D. wrote:

Bill and Mike commented on receiving their W.A Drake/Red Caboose GATX 8,000
gallon tank cars...

Bill, Mike

Where did you order yours from (Red Caboose)? I was also curious to see
that they have GATX undec listed, but not painted, any idea if they plan to
offer a painted version?...How were you planning on painting and decaling
yours?

Happy Rails
Bruce

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Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Richard,

I always though you were a maverick. Congratulations on your excellent
taste in computers. Macintosh forever!

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff
Who got his start in computers selling Macs in 1984.

Richard Hendrickson wrote:

.... Contrary to the impression many computer users seem to have, Microsoft >does not rule the world and some of us (especially Mac loyalists) avoid MS >software when possible ....


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

tgmadden <tgmadden@...>
 

Richard wrote:
If Ben's files are in Excel, I couldn't open them anyway. Contrary to the
impression many computer users seem to have, Microsoft does not rule the
world and some of us (especially Mac loyalists) avoid MS software when
possible (e.g., I think MS Word is an awkward and excessively complicated
word processing program and never use it except when transferring files to
those who do). My preference would be to have Ben's files on a web site
that I can access with Netscape Navigator.

Well, it _is_ a spreadsheet so you wouldn't be able to manipulate it if it
was presented strictly as an HTML file. My Pullman spreadsheets are
available in three formats: EXCEL97, comma-delimited for all other
spreadsheet or database applications, and SYLK for AppleWorks users. I
uploaded them to the files portion of our family web page, and put a notice
on the PCL showing links directly to the files. If you have a spreadsheet or
database application on your computer, one of those formats should load and
open directly in your application.

I'll echo Warren's comments about having no problems with Yahoo, but as a
list owner I had no choice about whether or not to register. I picked my own
"handle" and password, and have never had a problem logging in.

Tom M.


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

ibs4421@...
 

Richard "opined"
The more I hear from people who have
registered with Yahoo, the more determined I become not to do so.

Richard and all,
I am certainly no big fan of Yahoo!, but I have never had a moments trouble out fo them in over two years of usage. I don't understand why ya'll are havingso much trouble, and yet I have none.

Warren Dickinson
Elkton, KY


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

Richard Hendrickson
 

Tom Madden wrote, regarding Ben Hom's USRA box car files:

Two suggestions: Ben, you might want to consider putting the file on a web
page that doesn't require Yahoo registration to access. I ran into this
problem with my Pullman CCR spreadsheets on the PCL, when I realized that a
large percentage of subscribers had no intention of registering with Yahoo
and thus couldn't access the files.
Strong second to this motion. The more I hear from people who have
registered with Yahoo, the more determined I become not to do so.

Second, the file opens on the third
sheet. Doubt that this is a problem for anyone familiar with EXCEL, but you
should probably touch this up.
If Ben's files are in Excel, I couldn't open them anyway. Contrary to the
impression many computer users seem to have, Microsoft does not rule the
world and some of us (especially Mac loyalists) avoid MS software when
possible (e.g., I think MS Word is an awkward and excessively complicated
word processing program and never use it except when transferring files to
those who do). My preference would be to have Ben's files on a web site
that I can access with Netscape Navigator.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

Ed Workman <eworkman@...>
 

Tom MAdden sed

Two suggestions: Ben, you might want to consider putting the file on a web
page that doesn't require Yahoo registration to access. I ran into this
problem with my Pullman CCR spreadsheets on the PCL, when I realized that a
large percentage of subscribers had no intention of registering with Yahoo
and thus couldn't access the files.
Second it because although I was able to get thru the Yahoo BS and register, Yahoo assigned an identity to me arbitrarily, and I can't remember it now.


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

tgmadden <tgmadden@...>
 

Warren Dickenson wrote, of Ben Hom's excellent post and file:
When I got the e-mail notification that you had posted a file
"Freight Cars In Action" I thought "Aha!", he's done it!


Oh. I thought it was "Freight Cars Inaction", the affliction that causes
modelers to buy 10X more kits than they'll ever build!

Two suggestions: Ben, you might want to consider putting the file on a web
page that doesn't require Yahoo registration to access. I ran into this
problem with my Pullman CCR spreadsheets on the PCL, when I realized that a
large percentage of subscribers had no intention of registering with Yahoo
and thus couldn't access the files. Second, the file opens on the third
sheet. Doubt that this is a problem for anyone familiar with EXCEL, but you
should probably touch this up.

Tom M.


Re: Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

ibs4421@...
 

Today, Ben reshaped electrons to say:

As you may remember, about a month ago we had an extensive discussion of the
concept of a series of books similar to the popular Squadron "In Action"
series of aircraft, armor, and ships for freight cars.

And this too:

Response to this clinic was very positive

Ben,
See, I told ya folks would like it!!
With the available kits section you are branching over into another format, the "Detail & Scale" series formerly published by Aero publishers, and IIRC bought out by Squadron. Those publications had an "available kits & decals" section in the back of each one. While this information can becomedated rather quickly, it was and is of benefit nontheless since most of the kits and decals reviewed are still available. This series used manufacturers photos almost exclusively as well. (They took three volumes tocover the B-17 I think, and they were written by a Boeing engineer no less!)
Ben, I would really look forward to your offering something like this. I'm feeling like Oddball in "Kelly's Hero's". . . . "It's a mother-beautiful bridge, and it'll be there!"
When I got the e-mail notification that you had posted a file "Freight Cars In Action" I thought "Aha!", he's done it!
I am looking forward to this.

Warren Dickinson
Elkton, KY


Freight Cars in Action - USRA DS Boxcars

Benjamin Hom <bhom3@...>
 

Greetings all,

As you may remember, about a month ago we had an extensive discussion of the
concept of a series of books similar to the popular Squadron "In Action"
series of aircraft, armor, and ships for freight cars. To that end, I
presented a two hour clinic based around this concept at last weekend's
Pittsburgh RPM meet to test the waters (I've uploaded my database in the
files area - I also tried to upload the reference slides from the clinic
powerpoint, but I couldn't get the file to open and had to delete it from
the files area.) Response to this clinic was very positive - granted, with
that audience, I was pitching batting practice - but it indicated that
demand is out there among the prototype modeler community.

One of the secrets to the success of the Squadron "In Action" series is the
participation of the scale modeler community - they get many photo
submissions from modelers and historians to enhance the photo coverage of
their books. Here's the proposed content of the first book that we'll need
pictures to support:

Freight Cars in Action: USRA DS Boxcars

Cars will be presented by road:
Original as-built
Rebuilt boxcars
"Clones"
Each road's cars will be presented with representative photos tracing the
life of the cars from USRA allocation through rebuilding (as applicable) to
retirement. Color photos would be nice but are not required.

Modeling section:
Available kits in each scale - we'll need volunteers to write kit reviews
for all scales, as well as photos of completed models. Completed models
must match major details and have the appropriate lettering and number
series for the modeled prototype.

I also need to fill some gaps in the database - information needed is
highlighted in yellow.

Thanks in advance!


Ben Hom


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Re: W.A Drake/Red Caboose GATX tank cars

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

It is curious to me that the manufacturers of assembled plastic models can
bring them in from overseas undamaged by the thousands but the brass
importers cannot seem to copy that ability with a few hundred. Both arrived
with similarly bent brake staffs (Hey maybe I should check photographs to
see if they are supposed to be that way) and placards boards twisted etc.
From what I have read, nearly all plastic models assembled in China
come from a single (very large) manufacturer. Brass cars are made by
small manufacturers, who may not even have the vacuum molding and
other equipment needed to make those fancy (albeit cheap) packages
employed for plastic models.

If your model is -perfect- that's a dead giveaway that it's not hand
made... ruins the collector value and all that.

Timothy O'Connor <timoconnor@mediaone.net>
Marlborough, Massachusetts


Re: Reefer Traffic on the Pennsy

byronrose@...
 

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:20:43 -0600 "Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D."
<smithbf@mail.auburn.edu> writes:
Howdy y'all,

Thank you for all the wonderful help with suggestions regarding
reefer
traffic on the PRR. Now I have another question...does anyone make
a model
of an FGEX reefer appropriate for 1944?
Sunshine Models makes the only REAL FGEX reefer in HO plastic. It's a
pretty good kit, even includes underbody photos in the instructions..

PSC and OMI both imported crude brass models of the PRR R-7 which went to
FGE in 1922 and stayed there till the 50s, some even receiving FGE roofs
and hatches and even plug doors. If you want real crude, Red Ball and
its successor, Cannonball Shops have a kit made out of various
indistinguishable materials which makes an almost approximation of an R-7
reefer.

I see that Red Caboose is
listing
cat #RC4437, and R-30-12-9 Wood Reefer in FGEX with a reweigh
stencil of
8.47
Given Red Caboose's penchant for imaginary paint schemes...is this
car
correct for FGEX? Can it be backdated to 1944 by simply changing
the
reweigh stencil? If that's the case, I'd probably better get that
12 pack
for those westbounds!
It might be correct for FGE on a cold day in heck.

Or if someone can find an occasion when PFE replaced a damaged FGEX car
with a PFE car.

Or if you were building a retro layout, like maybe "That 70s Road"!!!

But in these enlightened times, negative.

OTOH, that 12 pack will be a heck of a lot cheaper and take a heck of a
lot less time to build than a 12 pack of Martins kits. For variety, you
might try six Red Cabooses and 6 Accurails, they're just as accurate.

BSR
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Re: Reefer Traffic on the Pennsy

byronrose@...
 

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:20:43 -0600 "Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D."
<smithbf@mail.auburn.edu> writes:
Howdy y'all,

Thank you for all the wonderful help with suggestions regarding
reefer
traffic on the PRR. Now I have another question...does anyone make
a model
of an FGEX reefer appropriate for 1944?
Sunshine Models makes the only REAL FGEX reefer in HO plastic. It's a
pretty good kit, even includes underbody photos in the instructions..

PSC and OMI both imported crude brass models of the PRR R-7 which went to
FGE in 1922 and stayed there till the 50s, some even receiving FGE roofs
and hatches and even plug doors. If you want real crude, Red Ball and
its successor, Cannonball Shops have a kit made out of various
indistinguishable materials which makes an almost approximation of an R-7
reefer.

I see that Red Caboose is
listing
cat #RC4437, and R-30-12-9 Wood Reefer in FGEX with a reweigh
stencil of
8.47
Given Red Caboose's penchant for imaginary paint schemes...is this
car
correct for FGEX? Can it be backdated to 1944 by simply changing
the
reweigh stencil? If that's the case, I'd probably better get that
12 pack
for those westbounds!
It might be correct for FGE on a cold day in heck.

Or if someone can find an occasion when PFE replaced a damaged FGEX car
with a PFE car.

Or if you were building a retro layout, like maybe "That 70s Road"!!!

But in these enlightened times, negative.

OTOH, that 12 pack will be a heck of a lot cheaper and take a heck of a
lot less time to build than a 12 pack of Martins kits. For variety, you
might try six Red Cabooses and 6 Accurails, they're just as accurate.

BSR
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Re: Reefer Traffic on the Pennsy

Richard Hendrickson
 

Howdy y'all,

Thank you for all the wonderful help with suggestions regarding reefer
traffic on the PRR. Now I have another question...does anyone make a model
of an FGEX reefer appropriate for 1944? I see that Red Caboose is listing
cat #RC4437, and R-30-12-9 Wood Reefer in FGEX with a reweigh stencil of
8.47....
Given Red Caboose's penchant for imaginary paint schemes...is this car
correct for FGEX? Can it be backdated to 1944 by simply changing the
reweigh stencil?
No, Fruit Growers owned no cars that even remotely resembled the PFE
R-30-12-9 class. OTOH, Accurail's BREX-prototype wood reefers can be
reworked to represent FGEX and WFEX cars by replacing the fishbelly center
sills with straight center sills, if you can tolerate the molded-on
details. Or, like Bill Welch, you can pare all that stuff off and replace
it with free-standing details (see a photo of Bill's results in the latest
Railmodel Journal), but then you'd have to letter all your models with
decals. Unfortunately, though modelers of both both eastern and
northwestern RRs desperately need good models of FGEX/BREX/WFEX reefers,
the manufacturers are all saying the same thing: too many wood reefer kits
on the market already. So there's no simple solution on the horizon, AFAIK.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: W.A Drake/Red Caboose GATX tank cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

Bruce Smith wrote:

Bill and Mike commented on receiving their W.A Drake/Red Caboose GATX 8,000
gallon tank cars...

Bill, Mike

Where did you order yours from (Red Caboose)? I was also curious to see
that they have GATX undec listed, but not painted, any idea if they plan to
offer a painted version?...How were you planning on painting and decaling
yours?
There will be no painted and lettered GATX cars; brass collectors aren't
interested in "plain Jane" tank cars (but will think that the Baker's
Castor Oil cars are highly amusing, and never mind that there were only two
prototype cars). Even as we write, however, I'm working on data for a
decal set that will letter the GATX versions of these models, as well as
the Overland radial-course-tank models and some other General American
prototypes. I'll keep y'all posted on the progress of this project. It's
#2 on my current priority list (unfortunately, #1 is to finish my tax
returns).

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: All Old Cars go to Alaska

Richard Hendrickson
 

John Golden wrote:

I thought you'd be interested to hear about the old car I found in
Anchorage the other day.... There, in all it's splendor, was an
operational ACF 6000 gallon tank car, built 1916. It's in MofW service
but looks great and was clearly operational. Yes, I took photos and will
get them up too. This car is exactly like the Precision Scale HO model
(only the PS model is a 4000 gal version).
I congratulate you on your discovery, John, but there's a bit of confusion
here. The PSC model represents a 6,000 (not 4,000) gal. Van Dyke frameless
tank car, and the last of those were built ca. 1912. If the car was, in
fact, built by AC&F in 1916 and is a former UTL car, it would have to be
one of the Class X cars which were of essentially the same design as the
Van Dyke cars but with a box section steel center sill. I can probably
make a positive ID of the car from your photos. Any chance you could send
them to me directly as attachments?

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: stock car challenge

Richard Hendrickson
 

I've uploaded a scan to the file area of four different stock cars on
the headend of a Southern Rwy. Birmingham Div. train which I believe
was headed toward Atlanta. The photo was dated 6/22/46.

Any help with identification of the stock cars would be appreciated.
Jack, I may be able to give you some help with this but I've had bad
experiences trying to access the STMFC files. Sorry to trouble you about
this, but could you perhaps post that image to me directly as an attachment?

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520

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