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Re: Waybills

A. Premo <armprem2@...>
 

I strongly suspect that it is essentially the same as a Wheel Report.Armand Premo

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From: mike brock

No one responding in this thread has mentioned a frt conductor's book.
. . .

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What was the real RR purpose of the conductor's book?

KL





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Improving FGE/WFE/BRE Online modeling resources

Bill Welch
 

Bruce answered Dean's questions beautifully.

A reminder to all that the B&O, PRR, and ACL/SAL online Modeling Magazines have PDFs of my 40-plus page handout on the Wood-Sheathed fleet, which is still basically accurate. Ben Hom did all of the work on this. I am working on an "errata" sheet but none of the errors, mistakes and omissions should affect model building, painting or stenciling.

I have given Ben a similar handout on the FGE/WFE/BRE/NX Systems' steel cars but much shorter that he will put up when time permits. I have promised Ben to try to get these documents up on more websites related to the RR's involved. If you are a fan of any of the other owner RRs--the GN, CB&Q, Southern, L&N, RF&P, NS, N&W, C&O/PM, C&EI, FEC, NYNH&H, CofG, and NC&StL-- please try to influence your various HS websites to consider making the FGE/WFE/BRE/NX System information available on their respective websites even if there is not a specific Modeling Magazine. Once you get someone to agree to this, you can direct them to me and I will communicate with Ben.

Bill Welch
fgexbill@...


Re: CG 7115 PS-1

Tim O'Connor
 

Todd

Any chance you could post the photo to the STMFC? I don't think Pullman
Standard would mind.

Tim O'Connor

I have a b&w photo of these cars showing the roofs as the cars were leaving the
PS plant. The roof clearly is painted and it appears to match the car side.
That's the reason we've (the CGRHS) have always siad that the early versions of
the Kadee car were wrong. Todd Horton


Re: CG 7115 PS-1

Todd Horton
 

I have a b&w photo of these cars showing the roofs as the cars were leaving the
PS plant. The roof clearly is painted and it appears to match the car side.
That's the reason we've (the CGRHS) have always siad that the early versions of
the Kadee car were wrong. Todd Horton




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Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CG 7115 PS-1

 

On Feb 22, 2011, at 10:19 AM, A. Premo wrote:

There is also the question of "overspray".Some cars did not receive
the full treatment.The "overspray" may have appeared to be a fully
painted roof to the casual observer.Overhead shots show a wide
variation of coverage.Armand Premo
Armand,
You make an excellent point. Normally new cars receiving black car
cement on the ends and/or roofs had this coating applied first,
followed by the painting of the rest of the car (i.e., sides). When
spraying the sides there was typically some overspray along the edge of
the roof. In black & white photos taken from a relatively low angle,
it's difficult to discern if the car received black car cement or a
painted roof because of the variability of the amount of overspray. An
overhead color photo of a new car would provide conclusive information,
but overhead color photos showing new cars from the 1940s and 1950s are
pretty rare. In some cases only the seam caps received black car
cement, and the overspray from the sides makes the roof appear as the
same color as the sides, when in fact the roof panels were the color
unpainted galvanized steel.

Many PS-1s, as well as box cars from other builders, show a clear
vertical line along the edge of the end where it wraps around to meet
the side. With a good exposure and the right amount of contrast, even a
black & white photo provides clear evidence that the ends were black.
In some cases the vertical line is so sharp that it gives the distinct
impression that the builder masked off the corners of the ends before
painting the sides. Other box cars having black ends didn't receive
such attention to detail, and the freight car paint used for the sides
wrapped around the corners of the ends. This can give a false
impression of the end color if viewed from the side. A good example of
this is found on page 76 of the NYC color guide book, where NYC 45390
has black ends but is difficult to distinguish even in a color photo
due to the amount of overspray on the end. If viewing this car from the
side, the "assumption" would be red ends.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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Re: Waybills

A. Premo <armprem2@...>
 

Jeff,That is part of the problem,sometimes ,yes,mostly no.Locals and extras would need waybills as they directly serve consignees.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Waybills



Armand,

It depends upon how you operate your model RR. If you allow freight agents to "confiscate" empty cars as they pass through the yard, then the cars in your through trains will need waybills and Empty Car bills to designate which are available for confiscation.

On the other hand, if there is no such operation on your model rr, then waybills are not needed for through freights.

Regards,

-Jeff

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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Waybills

Question:Would waybills be as important (in the model world) for through freights as to way freights?Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Waybills

Tony

Might be the same raw data, for sure. I don't know, there's only
so much time in the world for most of us. Railroads created paperwork
because they were a business. Paperwork is not my hobby interest. I'm
a minimalist myself -- a waybill only needs to say where the car is
going as far as I'm concerned. :-) Your waybill analysis pays real
dividends because it informs your modeling. But for the life of me
I can't see the utility of knowing that company ABC in East Podunk
bought fresh carrots and company XYZ in West Podunk only bought
oranges -- unless of course, I am modeling the Podunk Terminal Rwy.

Tim O'Connor

--------------------------------------------------

>> You may want to look at this group -- they have compiled
>> spreadsheets of real railroad freight shippers. Can you say
>> "information overload"?
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ry-ops-industrialSIG/
>
>Don't know if it's the same database, but the OpSIG (operations)
>group also has a huge listing of shippers on line, at opsig.org
>
>Tony Thompson

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Re: Modeling truss rods - lessons learned

Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
 

Which kit or kits were you building?
Of what material were the underframes/floors made?
Gene Green
Gene,

It was a CB&Q X17/18 Westerfield kit #8953. I have another Westerfield truss rod kit, a Southern 36" SU also on the workbench. The floor / underframe is resin.

I have uploaded a picture to Ned's Models folder in the group photo section (pending approval). This shows how much the floor curved from the tension on the truss rods. I make my floors removable by using the coupler mounting screws to screw into a piece of styrene inside the body. Tightening these screws pulls the floor flat.

This is the most detailed underframe I have done. I referred regularly to the brake handout you sent me several years ago. (to others, this excellent handout is in the files section)

Robert Tomb
I checked out your photo it looks great. Please post the finished car when done.

One more tip. I will try Tichy turnbuckles on the next one. They are slightly larger than the grant line ones supplied. This will give them more of a see through look.

Ned Carey
Laurel MD


Re: Waybills

Tim O'Connor
 

Mike

Many years ago at the old Nashua Valley Model RR club, we operated
from hand written train sheets that just listed the cars, and their
destinations. Worked like a charm. Wayfreights simply picked up cars
from local industries and returned with them, after dropping off
their assigned cars.

Tim O'Connor

No one responding in this thread has mentioned a frt conductor's book.
Now...given that there is much paper work and RR functions that we don't
mercifully have to perform...like checking for hot boxes, checking on tie
life, replacing individual ties, supplying paper to the agent, replacing
flues, placing sand in sand bunkers, straightening track after a 4-12-2
rolls by, etc....I find that the info in a frt conductor's book supplies all
I need with regard to frt car movement on my Sherman Hill layout with its
minimum number of industries...not unlike most mountain RR activity. For
example, a frt conductor's book identifies each frt car in a train, the
train its in, the car's contents, where it came from and where it's going.
In the case of, say, train X4004 headed east from Rawlins to Laramie, the
list of cars will usually include a large number going east to other
locations. The yardmaster will remove those going through Denver and will be
careful not to exceed the locomotive's tonnage rating for the grade over the
Hill. A new list would then be generated for the train before it left
Laramnie eastbound. Now, of course, I could supply a tiny hammer for the
yard crew to nail a destination card [ I have a video showing this process ]
to each car but when I have done that in the past, the operators lose the
%&^%$# hammers AND no one can read the &(&^+$ cars on the car anyhow.

To help the crew of, say, X9003, a train order will specify that cars are to
be dropped at Brucef...ooops...Buford. The conductor will tell the head end
crew what cars are to be dropped...and the agent at Buford will tell them
where....with luck.
Mike Brock


Re: Red Caboose X29

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Lawrence Rast wrote:
Speedwitch's decals for the X29 are VERY nice. Unfortunately, Ted has been
going through some "stuff." (See this link:
http://speedwitch.com/update.htm) As such, the decals may be difficult to
come by for the time being.

However, the website still shows there here:
http://speedwitch.com/Decals/d116.htm. I'd contact Ted before ordering.
The "update" is from last November. Ted had a good supply of most of his decals at Cocoa Beach in January and did not give any indication that they are going out of stock.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Red Caboose X29

Lawrence Rast
 

Speedwitch's decals for the X29 are VERY nice. Unfortunately, Ted has been
going through some "stuff." (See this link:
http://speedwitch.com/update.htm) As such, the decals may be difficult to
come by for the time being.

However, the website still shows there here:
http://speedwitch.com/Decals/d116.htm. I'd contact Ted before ordering.

<http://speedwitch.com/update.htm>Best,
Lawrence Rast

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...> wrote:



Ted's Speedwitch set is very good.

Brian Carlson

--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

From: Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Red Caboose X29

To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 5:03 PM




Bruce (et. al.),

Please remind me: from whom should I buy HO decals for a patch-panelled
X29? I would like to represent cars as they appeared in 1952.

Thanks,

-Jeff





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Re: Backdating "Shake and Take" reefers

Pieter Roos
 

If your period is before 1936 or so, some or all should have double board roofs (wood plank) instead of the Hutchins metal roof. Any time pre-WWII would have at some of the cars with a wood roof. At least, that is what I recall from Bill Welch's articles!

The first volume of the Speedwitch Journal "Railroad Prototype Modeling" had Bill's article on making an earlier BREX car from the Accurail model, which covered some of the roof changes (although the BREX car had a Murphy XLa roof, not what you need on the FGEX car). There is a drawing of the as-built car in Train Shed Cyclopedia #3, Box, Stock and Refrigerator Cars from the 1931 Car Builders Cyc.

Pieter Roos

--- In STMFC@..., "Dean" <1payne1@...> wrote:

I've been reading the "Shake and Take" reefer article in the latest RMC, and really like the idea. However, I believe the Kahn's car paint scheme is to new for my late 30's time frame.
I'd like to model one of the other cars featured in the article. IIRC from Bill Welch's clinic, the FGEX cars were more common than the NX cars. Besides, the aluminum roof paint on the NX car seems like a post-WWII thing to me (cringing, as this is a guess on my part. Were they painted BCR in their first decades?)
If I should consider attempting one of these bashes, does anybody have advice on backdating, besides K brakes? (AB brakes were new in the early 30's, and not likely to have been retrofitted to these cars in the mid-late 30's.) Were the trucks originally arch bar or T-section?
I may have to dig out my copy of Bill Welch's clinic handout... :-)
Also, not having access to a NWSL Riveter, would Archer rivets work in this application? I'll be ordering some for another project.

Dean Payne


Re: Backdating "Shake and Take" reefers

Dean Payne
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:

"Dean" <1payne1@...> 02/22/11 6:02 PM >>>
I've been reading the "Shake and Take" reefer article in the latest
RMC, and really like the idea. However, I believe the >Kahn's car paint
scheme is to new for my late 30's time frame.
I'd like to model one of the other cars featured in the article. IIRC
from Bill Welch's clinic, the FGEX cars were more >common than the NX
cars. Besides, the aluminum roof paint on the NX car seems like a
post-WWII thing to me >(cringing, as this is a guess on my part. Were
they painted BCR in their first decades?)

Dean,

So, as Mont sort of indicated, the "Kahn's car" is in reality an FGE
1922 design reefer. Subsequently, some of those cars were transferred
to NX and some of those leased to Kahn's. For your period, you want to
an FGE car for sure. The paint scheme of the time is well documented
and included an oxide red roof and ends. BTW, this car is available in
a reasonably accurate resin kit from Sunshine (1 foot too short, but
otherwise excellent).

If I should consider attempting one of these bashes, does anybody have
advice on backdating, besides K brakes? (AB >brakes were new in the
early 30's, and not likely to have been retrofitted to these cars in the
mid-late 30's.) Were the >trucks originally arch bar or T-section?
I may have to dig out my copy of Bill Welch's clinic handout... :-)
Also, not having access to a NWSL Riveter, would Archer rivets work in
this application? I'll be ordering some for another >project.

You may need to add a few rivets but do not add the "plates" on the
sides. These are really the ends of the steel that was used for framing
post WWII. Archer will work fine for these.

For the K-brakes, use the linkages as shown (since ABs were retrofitted)
with a KC cylinder.

I've done a few of these as well (the 1953 Kahn's and 1944 era NX and
FGE cars). For details, you can check out the FGE project on PRRPro. I
hope to write mine up for TKM. Some differences from Mont's models
include:
- IM FGE ladders - why use anything else when IM now offers these <G>?
- IM FGE hatch rests - these are on the sprues with the ladders, so I
removed the molded on hatch rests and added these. You will see in the
photos that these are noticable on these reefers.
- all brass wire underbody piping
- and of course, I used correct paint and lettering for 1944.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

I've found my handout from Bill's clinic, I'll add some things I've learned from it:
The truss rod underframe "...FGEX and WFEX cars would have received cast side frame trucks prior by 1940." (sic)
The fishbelly underframe FGEX cars "...initially rode on Andrews trucks. It is unknown if they kept these trucks."

Well, none of those are the cars we are talking about! However, no truck info is given for those with built-up underframes as used in the kitbash. I expect the information is simply not available, I can't fault Bill for that. All the photos I've seen show normal cast steel trucks, but I don't know the dates they were taken.

Talking about the cars with the built-up riveted underframes "...would have the same improvements applied to them as early as 1938... Hutchins roofs and AB brake systems." So, I was incorrect that AB brakes wouldn't be seen on these in the late 30's, but I think it would be the exception, not the norm.

Dean Payne


Re: Red Caboose X29

Bruce Smith
 

Max,

As I said, the kits are listed as in stock. Email, using the address
given at RC to order.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

"Kathe Robin" <kathe@...> 02/22/11 4:56 PM >>>
Not that I could find on their web pages. LHS in some area may have
them.

Max

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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:57 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Red Caboose X29

Max,

Are they not available from Red Caboose?

Regards,

-Jeff


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cheat_river_engineering
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:53 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: conductor's reefer data



Does anyone haveither a kit on an unpainted assembled model of the Red
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sell
ortrade for? I'm in the market for at least 3 such cars.

Thanks,

Nax
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Re: Tank cars

Bruce Smith
 

"milepost1" <bushnell.mp77@...> 02/22/11 8:11 PM >>>
http://www.youtube.com/user/jlebaron1#p/u/1/CHcPxuwQHaY
I was most interested in the tank cars on this "short" freight. Of
special interest was the three dome tank with different >size domes on
the same car.

I'm hardly an expert but can someone "educate" me about these cars- I
don't remember seeing a "model" that replicates >this. Also if you watch
the video there is one "small" single dome car too. Any guess as to
size, type, build date, etc. etc. >etc.

Gordon,

Tank cars with a larger center dome and smaller side domes are usually
cars that were single compartment tanks retrofitted to be
multicompartment tanks. There also appears to be a 3 dome tank with
equal sized domes. The only single dome car I see is a TEXACO car right
behind the tender. The video is difficult to see much detail on, but
the retrofitted car might be of GATC manufacture

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: Waybills

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: mike brock

No one responding in this thread has mentioned a frt conductor's book. . . .

----- Original Message -----


What was the real RR purpose of the conductor's book?

KL


Re: Waybills

mike brock <brockm@...>
 

Jeff Aley writes:

"It depends upon how you operate your model RR. If you allow freight agents to "confiscate" empty cars as they pass through the yard, then the cars in your through trains will need waybills and Empty Car bills to designate which are available for confiscation.

On the other hand, if there is no such operation on your model rr, then waybills are not needed for through freights."

No one responding in this thread has mentioned a frt conductor's book. Now...given that there is much paper work and RR functions that we don't mercifully have to perform...like checking for hot boxes, checking on tie life, replacing individual ties, supplying paper to the agent, replacing flues, placing sand in sand bunkers, straightening track after a 4-12-2 rolls by, etc....I find that the info in a frt conductor's book supplies all I need with regard to frt car movement on my Sherman Hill layout with its minimum number of industries...not unlike most mountain RR activity. For example, a frt conductor's book identifies each frt car in a train, the train its in, the car's contents, where it came from and where it's going. In the case of, say, train X4004 headed east from Rawlins to Laramie, the list of cars will usually include a large number going east to other locations. The yardmaster will remove those going through Denver and will be careful not to exceed the locomotive's tonnage rating for the grade over the Hill. A new list would then be generated for the train before it left Laramnie eastbound. Now, of course, I could supply a tiny hammer for the yard crew to nail a destination card [ I have a video showing this process ] to each car but when I have done that in the past, the operators lose the %&^%$# hammers AND no one can read the &(&^+$ cars on the car anyhow.

To help the crew of, say, X9003, a train order will specify that cars are to be dropped at Brucef...ooops...Buford. The conductor will tell the head end crew what cars are to be dropped...and the agent at Buford will tell them where....with luck.
Mike Brock


Re: Backdating "Shake and Take" reefers

Bruce Smith
 

"Dean" <1payne1@...> 02/22/11 6:02 PM >>>
I've been reading the "Shake and Take" reefer article in the latest
RMC, and really like the idea. However, I believe the >Kahn's car paint
scheme is to new for my late 30's time frame.
I'd like to model one of the other cars featured in the article. IIRC
from Bill Welch's clinic, the FGEX cars were more >common than the NX
cars. Besides, the aluminum roof paint on the NX car seems like a
post-WWII thing to me >(cringing, as this is a guess on my part. Were
they painted BCR in their first decades?)

Dean,

So, as Mont sort of indicated, the "Kahn's car" is in reality an FGE
1922 design reefer. Subsequently, some of those cars were transferred
to NX and some of those leased to Kahn's. For your period, you want to
an FGE car for sure. The paint scheme of the time is well documented
and included an oxide red roof and ends. BTW, this car is available in
a reasonably accurate resin kit from Sunshine (1 foot too short, but
otherwise excellent).

If I should consider attempting one of these bashes, does anybody have
advice on backdating, besides K brakes? (AB >brakes were new in the
early 30's, and not likely to have been retrofitted to these cars in the
mid-late 30's.) Were the >trucks originally arch bar or T-section?
I may have to dig out my copy of Bill Welch's clinic handout... :-)
Also, not having access to a NWSL Riveter, would Archer rivets work in
this application? I'll be ordering some for another >project.

You may need to add a few rivets but do not add the "plates" on the
sides. These are really the ends of the steel that was used for framing
post WWII. Archer will work fine for these.

For the K-brakes, use the linkages as shown (since ABs were retrofitted)
with a KC cylinder.

I've done a few of these as well (the 1953 Kahn's and 1944 era NX and
FGE cars). For details, you can check out the FGE project on PRRPro. I
hope to write mine up for TKM. Some differences from Mont's models
include:
- IM FGE ladders - why use anything else when IM now offers these <G>?
- IM FGE hatch rests - these are on the sprues with the ladders, so I
removed the molded on hatch rests and added these. You will see in the
photos that these are noticable on these reefers.
- all brass wire underbody piping
- and of course, I used correct paint and lettering for 1944.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Tank cars

Bushnell.mp77 Account
 

I recently watched an old film (youtube) that was of a 1947 passenger train but before that a few quick glimpses of a freight appeared.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jlebaron1#p/u/1/CHcPxuwQHaY

I was most interested in the tank cars on this "short" freight. Of special interest was the three dome tank with different size domes on the same car.

I'm hardly an expert but can someone "educate" me about these cars- I don't remember seeing a "model" that replicates this. Also if you watch the video there is one "small" single dome car too. Any guess as to size, type, build date, etc. etc. etc.

Gordon Andrews




--
The human brain is like a railroad freight car -- guaranteed to have a certain capacity but often running empty."


Re: Waybills

Aley, Jeff A
 

Armand,

It depends upon how you operate your model RR. If you allow freight agents to "confiscate" empty cars as they pass through the yard, then the cars in your through trains will need waybills and Empty Car bills to designate which are available for confiscation.

On the other hand, if there is no such operation on your model rr, then waybills are not needed for through freights.

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of A. Premo
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:30 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Waybills



Question:Would waybills be as important (in the model world) for through freights as to way freights?Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Waybills

Tony

Might be the same raw data, for sure. I don't know, there's only
so much time in the world for most of us. Railroads created paperwork
because they were a business. Paperwork is not my hobby interest. I'm
a minimalist myself -- a waybill only needs to say where the car is
going as far as I'm concerned. :-) Your waybill analysis pays real
dividends because it informs your modeling. But for the life of me
I can't see the utility of knowing that company ABC in East Podunk
bought fresh carrots and company XYZ in West Podunk only bought
oranges -- unless of course, I am modeling the Podunk Terminal Rwy.

Tim O'Connor

--------------------------------------------------

You may want to look at this group -- they have compiled
spreadsheets of real railroad freight shippers. Can you say
"information overload"?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ry-ops-industrialSIG/
Don't know if it's the same database, but the OpSIG (operations)
group also has a huge listing of shippers on line, at opsig.org

Tony Thompson
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Backdating "Shake and Take" reefers

Dean Payne
 

I've been reading the "Shake and Take" reefer article in the latest RMC, and really like the idea. However, I believe the Kahn's car paint scheme is to new for my late 30's time frame.
I'd like to model one of the other cars featured in the article. IIRC from Bill Welch's clinic, the FGEX cars were more common than the NX cars. Besides, the aluminum roof paint on the NX car seems like a post-WWII thing to me (cringing, as this is a guess on my part. Were they painted BCR in their first decades?)
If I should consider attempting one of these bashes, does anybody have advice on backdating, besides K brakes? (AB brakes were new in the early 30's, and not likely to have been retrofitted to these cars in the mid-late 30's.) Were the trucks originally arch bar or T-section?
I may have to dig out my copy of Bill Welch's clinic handout... :-)
Also, not having access to a NWSL Riveter, would Archer rivets work in this application? I'll be ordering some for another project.

Dean Payne


Re: CG 7115 PS-1

John Hile
 

--- In STMFC@..., "john66h" <john66h@...> wrote:

Hello All,

In researching Kadee's CG PS-1 #7115 (CG 7000-7299 blt 4/52) I ran across some conflicting information...

Can anyone clarify for me what color the roof (and running board) should be for this car when it was new.
















Thanks to all who replied,

-John Hile

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