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Super Glue

Bill Welch
 

The inventor of Super Glue died today at the age of 94.

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727.470.9930
fgexbill@...


Re: Spring Mills Depot EXLUSIVE M53 in the "Mid 1955 - Late 1957 ...

WaltGCox@...
 

Thanks,I'll order the one with the circle T and reporting marks. Walt

In a message dated 3/28/2011 6:03:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jmischke@... writes:

B&O wagontop boxcars in this scheme could be seen anywhere in general
merchandise service. Including Canada for your pike.

In Canada, even with a circle T, which means it is clean and fit for LCL
(B&O Time Saver)service. There were far, far more B&O boxcars with the
circle T than actually in LCL service


Photos of latest Tahoe Model Works truck

Andy Carlson
 

Brian will probably announce his new truck shortly, but for those who wish to
view a close-up photo, go to Ebay # 200591849833.

It is a late 19th century 5' wheelbase diamond arch bar 20 ton truck. Not too
useful for our era of interest, but it is another fine example of what Brian can
do with plastic.
-Andy Carlson


Re: Spring Mills Depot EXLUSIVE M53 in the "Mid 1955 - Late 1957 Bill...

Jim Mischke
 

B&O wagontop boxcars in this scheme could be seen anywhere in general merchandise service. Including Canada for your pike.

In Canada, even with a circle T, which means it is clean and fit for LCL (B&O Time Saver)service. There were far, far more B&O boxcars with the circle T than actually in LCL service.

--- In STMFC@..., WaltGCox@... wrote:

A related question would be which scheme, if any, would be most commonly
seen in interchange (into eastern Canada in particular)? Walt


In a message dated 3/26/2011 10:31:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
schuyler.larrabee@... writes:




On this list, this question will be obvious: What does the "Circle T"
indicate?

SGL








Re: B&O circle T

Jim Mischke
 

Tis' factual. I have a whole B&O drawing devoted to these circled letters and their meaning.

Circle T means clean and fit for LCL service.

--- In STMFC@..., "Ken Braden" <ken@...> wrote:

Tim I'm almost 100% confident in my answer. Jim will come along soon and
confirm this for us.

The Boxcars with slogans on them were more billboards than cars that were
used for the LCL service. B&O used the Circle T to indicate that the cars
met the requirements for LCL use.



Ken Braden

www.smd.cc

www.fcsme.org





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O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] RE: B&O circle T





Question 1. What does the "Circle T" indicate?

Answer: From my understanding it is an indication on the car that
the car was approved for less than carload use. (Time Saver Service

-------------------------------------

Are we certain of this Circle T interpretation? I ask because the
Nov-Dec 2006 issue of B&O Modeler mentions that hopper cars received
a "Circle H" emblem if they were reconstructed with money from the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation. Other hopper cars received a
"Circle X" emblem if they were not in revenue service, and were only
to be used for company coal.

Jim Mischke has provided the LCL explanation to STMFC before (2005 and
2009), but no one ever cited any source documents for this. I'd hate for
us to be spreading mythology instead of facts. The Circle T for LCL is
plausible... but is it factual?

Tim O'Connor





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Re: ORER information

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:33 PM, macbmac1 wrote:

Hello to All:

I don't post very often, but would like to thank everyone for the
wealth of knowledge that is shared amongst this group. I am
currently working with the newly forming Tonopah and Tidewater
Modeler's group in Pahrump, NV, and am in need of some information
regarding it's equipment. Would anyone have copy of the ORER
listing the T&T's equipment from the late 1920's until about the
mid 1930's that they would be willing to share? The information
will be used to model rolling stock for a future-planned HO scale
version of the railroad. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm sending you scans of the T&T entries in the 7/33 and 10/38
ORERs off-list.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: 3:1 Reefer to Reefers to Boxcar ratio

devansprr
 

--- In STMFC@..., "lstt100@..." <lstt100@...> wrote:

I thought list member might want the following information.

Total refrigerator carloads from 1940 thru 1948 and number loaded on 3:1 plan forwarded to West Coast. It should be noted that the verbage in the order stated "up" to 3 for 1 plan, sometimes as Jim indicated it was a 2 for 1 plan depending on the equipment needed.
Snip

ICC Service Order 104 was effective January 19,1943 covering PFE and SFRD ownerships. Suspended from Jan 1946 and then reinstated in full effective April 10, 1946. This was done because of a shortage of refrigerator cars on the West Coast.

SNIP

Of the total refrigerator cars moving through Ogden, Salt Lake, El Paso, Belen and Albuquerque, the loaded cars increased from 12.2 percent in 1942 to approximately 50 percent in 1945. Keep in mind that the total vs the 3:1 plan will be skewed if compared account the total loaded does not isolate only the loads from the West Coast.

SNIP
Percentage of empty refrigerator car miles to total loaded:
1942 43.8
1943 38.1
1944 35.1
1945 34.0
SNIP

Dan Holbrook
Dan,

Fantastic data. For an eastern WWII modeler, it does raise a few questions:

1) You wrote "Of the total refrigerator cars moving through Ogden, Salt Lake, El Paso, Belen and Albuquerque, the loaded cars increased from 12.2 percent in 1942 to approximately 50 percent in 1945." Is this referring to WB reefer movements? I would think EB reefer movements would be nearly 100% loaded at these locations?

2) Is there a public or published source of the more detailed data necessary to derive these numbers?

3) Were any other reefers included in the car service orders in effect during WWII other than PFE and SFRD?

If the data in (1) is for WB reefers, and EB reefers were nearly 100% loaded through the same locations, then with only 25% of western reefer movements empty, and the fact that 35.1% of all reefer miles were empty, then eastern empty reefer miles must have remained close to the pre-service order, 1942 empty mileage percentage of 43.8%.

I know Richard is looking for hard facts - but I suspect that eastern 3:1 reefer loadings may not have been that common, for the simple reason that there were LOTS of available MTY XM's on the east coast during WWII, and from the east coast the percentage of merchandise loads destined to the specific locations defined in the car service order would be a low probability - better for an agent/yard master to just grab an MTY XM than to find the correct 2 or 3 MTY reefers to load for the specified destination.

I would also theorize that much of the 3:1 loading was occurring in the midwest, since that region had a significant imbalance of outbound loads compared to inbound loads.

If this theory holds up, then for a modeler of central PA in WWII, it looks like many WB reefers would still be empty, at least of merchandise, because there was still some produce from the southeast being moved WB out of Washington/Baltimore and Potomac yard.

For a WWII midwest modeler, it sounds like lots of reefers were being loaded with merchandise - 2 or 3 at a time - an interesting operational twist. And for the western WWII moldeler there would be lots of reefers to unload at non-food related industries. Alas, looks like a unique opportunity for operations not appropriate for eastern WWII modelers (although it may still have happened, just not that frequently in the east)

Now to find some data that would confirm or reject this.

Dave Evans


Re: ORER information

Mike Fleming
 

Michael,
The inquiring question is this: Is Art Bell part of your group.... LOL


Mike Fleming
Superintendent, Bluff City Div. SER, NMRA
President Emeritus, Memphis Society of Model Railroaders
Vice President, Memphis Railroad and Trolley Museum Model Railroad Club, a 100% NMRA Member Club

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To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] ORER information
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:33:02 -0000


Hello to All:

I don't post very often, but would like to thank everyone for the wealth of knowledge that is shared amongst this group. I am currently working with the newly forming Tonopah and Tidewater Modeler's group in Pahrump, NV, and am in need of some information regarding it's equipment. Would anyone have copy of the ORER listing the T&T's equipment from the late 1920's until about the mid 1930's that they would be willing to share? The information will be used to model rolling stock for a future-planned HO scale version of the railroad. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance,
respectfully,
Michael McAnally
Pahrump, NV


ORER information

Michael McAnally
 

Hello to All:

I don't post very often, but would like to thank everyone for the wealth of knowledge that is shared amongst this group. I am currently working with the newly forming Tonopah and Tidewater Modeler's group in Pahrump, NV, and am in need of some information regarding it's equipment. Would anyone have copy of the ORER listing the T&T's equipment from the late 1920's until about the mid 1930's that they would be willing to share? The information will be used to model rolling stock for a future-planned HO scale version of the railroad. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance,
respectfully,
Michael McAnally
Pahrump, NV


Re: X29 question

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

Richard,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm more after a detail shot of the door -
I've got several general views already.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Richard Brennan wrote:

At 12:48 AM 3/27/2011, you wrote:
Quick question - could someone suggest a source for a good close-up photo
of the door fittings on an X29 with Creco doors?
How about pre-Keystone PRR 503449 X29 with Creco doors... eh???
Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual Vol 1, page 119

also... note Creco-doored C&O 8000 Class B5-2 1923 AAR on page 113


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Re: 3:1 Reefer to Reefers to Boxcar ratio

Tim O'Connor
 

Dan Holbrook wrote

1948 Total 2,025,202. Total on 3:1 plan: 48,988
Percentage of empty refrigerator car miles to total loaded:
1948 39.6

Thanks for that great data, Dan!

So the 3:1 plan was 2.4% of total reefer carloadings -- or let's
express that as 4.8% of total "return" carloadings.

Another way of expressing the 39.6% ratio Dan cites, is to say that
reefers were empty 28.4% of the their total mileage. Since reefers
travelled empty 28.4% of the time, instead of 50.0% of the time, it
stands to reason to estimate that 43.2% of reefers were reloaded in
a "return" direction. (That's a lot more than I expected -- I wonder
how that number looked in the 1950's, and later.)

So comparing the 4.8% returns under the 3:1 rule vs 43.2% return loads,
it looks like the 3:1 rule was applied to 11% or about 1 in 9 returning
reefers. On the other hand, I think it's remarkable that perhaps 43.2%
of all reefers were reloaded on their return trips! I wonder how many
model layouts implement that reload rate.

Of course in the real world cars don't just ping-pong back and forth,
but they can travel in more complicated patterns, and they may explain
why the 3:1 rule only applied to a small percentage of cars.

Tim O'Connor


Re: 3:1 Reefer to Reefers to Boxcar ratio

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Mar 27, 2011, at 2:27 PM, lstt100@... wrote:

I thought list member might want the following information.

Total refrigerator carloads from 1940 thru 1948 and number loaded
on 3:1 plan forwarded to West Coast. It should be noted that the
verbage in the order stated "up" to 3 for 1 plan, sometimes as Jim
indicated it was a 2 for 1 plan depending on the equipment needed.

1940 Total 1,526,900.
1941 Total 1,663,490.
1942 Total 1,865,014. Total loaded westbound in 1942 before ICC
Service order 104 was put in place: 34,645
1943 Total 1,889,933. Total on 3:1 plan: 92,082
1944 Total 2,233,433. Total on 3:1 plan: 136,902
1945 Total 2,262,147. Total on 3:1 plan: 148,192
1946 Total 2,163,788. Total on 3:1 plan: 99,924
1947 Total 2.177,341. Total on 3:1 plan: 102,497
1948 Total 2,025,202. Total on 3:1 plan: 48,988

ICC Service Order 104 was effective January 19,1943 covering PFE
and SFRD ownerships. Suspended from Jan 1946 and then reinstated
in full effective April 10, 1946. This was done because of a
shortage of refrigerator cars on the West Coast.

ICC Service Order 822 was issued on August 10, 1948 and was
effective September 1, 1948 placing the 3:1 plan in effect from
Eastern territory to Pacific Northwest Territory. This covered NP,
WFEX, FGEX and BREX cars.

After the end of the war, there was a decrease in Service Order 104
loadings for the West Coast. Of the total refrigerator cars moving
through Ogden, Salt Lake, El Paso, Belen and Albuquerque, the
loaded cars increased from 12.2 percent in 1942 to approximately 50
percent in 1945. Keep in mind that the total vs the 3:1 plan will
be skewed if compared account the total loaded does not isolate
only the loads from the West Coast.

Office of Defense Transporation (ODT) was terminated on June 30,
1949. On the same date ICC Service Order 102 and 822 were allowed
to expire. Prior to the expiration date they were issued in tariff
form and the westbound loading of refrigerator cars continued under
the tariff provisions.

Percentage of empty refrigerator car miles to total loaded:
1942 43.8
1943 38.1
1944 35.1
1945 34.0
1946 38.6
1947 38.8
1948 39.6

The increase in empty mileage in 1948 was brought about by the
return to owners of their authority to direct movement of their cars.

Dan Holbrook
Dan, thanks very much for sharing this information. After several
days of more or less speculation and guesswork on this topic by STMFC
listers, it is a relief to actually have some documentation.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Georgia & Florida LOs

Benjamin Scanlon
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Riley K" <riley050748@...> wrote:



The cars are mentioned in a history of the G&F, Rails Through the Wiregrass, published by the Northern Illinois Press. Since the road was never ever in decent financial shape, the Douglas, GA shops often improvised in building such freight equipment. These cards were meant for use on-line, for animal feed, as the road had no credit after WW II. That's all that's said about the cars.

Riley Kinney
Hi

Thanks to the moderator for allowing me to join the list. I joined in part because I wanted to find out more about these, among other Georgia & Florida RR equipment.

Rails Through the Wiregrass says

"Although a few years earlier the company had acquired 150 wood racks and built twenty-six all-steel hopper cars for online shipments of chicken feed ..."

The implication being that they were built around the time the G&F got the wood racks, which was 1953 I believe, when National Container Corporation established a mill near Valdosta, GA. These wood racks themselves are something I'd like to know more about; they were allegedly not up to much, the comment is made "these cars were light duty and cracked." If anyone has a shot of either car they can share I would love to see it ...

G&F had some older more traditional (?) looking wood racks but I believe the 1953 ones were fishbelly design.

Regards

Ben


Re: 3:1 Reefer to Reefers to Boxcar ratio

lstt100
 

I thought list member might want the following information.

Total refrigerator carloads from 1940 thru 1948 and number loaded on 3:1 plan forwarded to West Coast. It should be noted that the verbage in the order stated "up" to 3 for 1 plan, sometimes as Jim indicated it was a 2 for 1 plan depending on the equipment needed.

1940 Total 1,526,900.
1941 Total 1,663,490.
1942 Total 1,865,014. Total loaded westbound in 1942 before ICC Service order 104 was put in place: 34,645
1943 Total 1,889,933. Total on 3:1 plan: 92,082
1944 Total 2,233,433. Total on 3:1 plan: 136,902
1945 Total 2,262,147. Total on 3:1 plan: 148,192
1946 Total 2,163,788. Total on 3:1 plan: 99,924
1947 Total 2.177,341. Total on 3:1 plan: 102,497
1948 Total 2,025,202. Total on 3:1 plan: 48,988

ICC Service Order 104 was effective January 19,1943 covering PFE and SFRD ownerships. Suspended from Jan 1946 and then reinstated in full effective April 10, 1946. This was done because of a shortage of refrigerator cars on the West Coast.

ICC Service Order 822 was issued on August 10, 1948 and was effective September 1, 1948 placing the 3:1 plan in effect from Eastern territory to Pacific Northwest Territory. This covered NP, WFEX, FGEX and BREX cars.

After the end of the war, there was a decrease in Service Order 104 loadings for the West Coast. Of the total refrigerator cars moving through Ogden, Salt Lake, El Paso, Belen and Albuquerque, the loaded cars increased from 12.2 percent in 1942 to approximately 50 percent in 1945. Keep in mind that the total vs the 3:1 plan will be skewed if compared account the total loaded does not isolate only the loads from the West Coast.

Office of Defense Transporation (ODT) was terminated on June 30, 1949. On the same date ICC Service Order 102 and 822 were allowed to expire. Prior to the expiration date they were issued in tariff form and the westbound loading of refrigerator cars continued under the tariff provisions.

Percentage of empty refrigerator car miles to total loaded:
1942 43.8
1943 38.1
1944 35.1
1945 34.0
1946 38.6
1947 38.8
1948 39.6

The increase in empty mileage in 1948 was brought about by the return to owners of their authority to direct movement of their cars.

Dan Holbrook


Re: X29 question

Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
 

At 12:48 AM 3/27/2011, you wrote:
Quick question - could someone suggest a source for a good close-up photo
of the door fittings on an X29 with Creco doors?
How about pre-Keystone PRR 503449 X29 with Creco doors... eh???
Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual Vol 1, page 119

also... note Creco-doored C&O 8000 Class B5-2 1923 AAR on page 113


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X29 question

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

Quick question - could someone suggest a source for a good close-up photo
of the door fittings on an X29 with Creco doors?

TIA,

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: Savannah 2011

seaboard_1966
 

Dave

I will indeed be posting photos. I need a chance to get home and access my photo site. I will let you guys know when that is done.

Now onto a report of today's activities. The day began with a FGE clinic, The Legacy Cars, by list member Bill Welch. It was an outstanding clinic that covered the formation of FGE, its early operations and its wooden car fleet. Bill, thanks for a fine clinic.

Up next was a clinic my Bill McCoy on modeling acl/scl C628. Bill did a great job covering the various aspects of the prototype and then building a credible model from the Rivarossi model of decades ago. Bill, thanks for your efforts on a fine very good clinic.

Around noon we broke for lunch until 1PM.

At one PM we held our usual door prize giveaways. A GREAT
time was had by all. We had enough door prizes that some folks actually got to pick twice!!!

The rest of the afternoon featured the second half of Bills FGE clinic. A clinic my Carl Merchand as well. I didn't attend due to other things going on and I don't remember what the clinic was about. Regardless Carl is an outstanding modeler and I am certain that the clinic was good. List member Fenton Wells presented a Southern Railway box car clinic. This was Fentons first trip here and her stepped right up to the plate. Thanks Fenton for a fine effort. We look forward to your promised clinic next year.

I am certain that I missed stuff. For that I apologize. As a person involved in the planning of this meet
I want to thank all that attended. I especially want to thank those who presented clinics and the like. I would also like to thank the manufacturers and sponsors who allow this event to happen and make it enjoyable for folks to attend.

Oh, final model count, 425! We will take that.

Denis Blake
Reporting from Savannah,GA
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Denis, appreciate the news from Savannah! Any chance that you (or another attendee) could post model photos for those of us who live just too far away and can only afford 1 or 2 crosscountry trips a year to attend RPM meets? It would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Savannah 2011

seaboard_1966
 

Fenton, I am glad that you attended the meet and had a good time. You were one of our first timers and there were several others that were as well. Please spread the word and we look forward to seeing you here next year.

Denis Blake
From Savannah,GA
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Savannah 2011

Dennis, I had a great time and wanted to thank you and all those involved
for making this a great RPM meet. I met new friends, saw many, really great
models and clinics, learned a lot and most of all left inspired to do better
with my modeling efforts. Please thank all those who helped for me.
Best Regards,
Fenton


On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:39 PM, <dblake7@...> wrote:



The Savannah RPM meet got underway today. The first day featured clinic on
building a CRR F unit,railfanning and overview of the CRR and one on
building a CRR layout. To say it was a CRR day would be an understatement.

There are somewhere around 350 models on display at this time. This include
HO and O scale cars. Amongst these car are modified factory produced cars,
kit bashed and scratch built cars as well.

There are several outstanding passenger car models on display as well.

For the first time we have a good number of structures on hand as well.

While there are the usual suspects present we have several new comers to
the meet as well. Amongst these is Bill Welch who is giving a clinic
tomorrow, Saturday. I can't wait to attend that one.

Tonight we closed to doors at about 530pm and around 30 of us went to a
local sea food restaurant for dinner. For me, this dinner is one of the
highlights of the meet.

After dinner there were two options. Some folks went to tour an outstanding
CRR layout while others went back to the show and attended a slide show
presented by Bob Graham and Warren Calloway. These two gents fanned and
fanned hard and their efforts resulted in some fine photos.

Tomorrow features more clinics and the door prize give away. We have
sufficient door prizes that everyone should get at least one.

Doors close at 5pm tomorrow afternoon and the curtain will come down on the
2011 version of the Savannah RPM.

Thanks to all who have attended so far and we hope to have more show up
tomorrow.

I urge ALL to make plans to attend next years meet.

Denis Blake
From Savannah,GA
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3:1 Reefer to Reefers to Boxcar ratio

np328
 

I had mentioned earlier seeing a letter about the 3:1 ratio. Below it has been transcribed. This letter underscores Frank Peacocks post 98693 regarding the source of the order. It also expands the 3:1 into an additional 2:1 reefers for boxcars. The letter is to NP President C E Denny and dated June 7, 1950. Reference is made to April 1950 Freight Dept Reports regarding carloadings which came from each field agent monthly.
Dave Evans - sorry this provides no answers to your questions in post 98697.
............
Mr. Denney,

Referring to the attached April report wherein he states we lost six cars of magazines to the Pacific Coast from the Curtis Publishing Company.

This statement is somewhat misleading, in that Service Order 104 authorized the use of three refrigerators for one 50-foot boxcar under O.D.T. regulation which the Curtis people had been utilizing, and when the Ofiice of Defense Transportation terminated together with the service order, provision was made by tariff and revenue is for a 50-foot car under the multiple arrangement, whether three refrigerators for one 50-foot car or or two for one 40-foot, 6-inch car.

During April our loading showed two cars less than previous, and based on multiple loadings we lost the revenue of one car. In accepting the statement of Decker of the loss of six cars, under the multiple arrangment it could have been the loss of two or three (revenue) cars, as the case may be.

However we all know that the Curtis Publishing Company divides their business and Mr. Decker himself makes the statement that we should figure on a maximum division of 35 percent.

Joint tariff restricts the use of refrigerators as follows:

Via Northern Pacific - when loaded in BRE, FWD, NP, or NRC refrigerators.

Via Great Northern - when loaded in BRE, FGE, FWD, or WFE refrigerators.

Via Union Pacific - when loaded in PFE refrigerators.

....End....

Transcribed from letter found in NP Pres. Subject Files -
File 1477-131; Box 137.E.13.2f ; Minn. Hist. Society.
Jim Dick - Roseville, MN


Re: Savannah 2011

O Fenton Wells
 

Dennis, I had a great time and wanted to thank you and all those involved
for making this a great RPM meet. I met new friends, saw many, really great
models and clinics, learned a lot and most of all left inspired to do better
with my modeling efforts. Please thank all those who helped for me.
Best Regards,
Fenton


On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:39 PM, <dblake7@...> wrote:



The Savannah RPM meet got underway today. The first day featured clinic on
building a CRR F unit,railfanning and overview of the CRR and one on
building a CRR layout. To say it was a CRR day would be an understatement.

There are somewhere around 350 models on display at this time. This include
HO and O scale cars. Amongst these car are modified factory produced cars,
kit bashed and scratch built cars as well.

There are several outstanding passenger car models on display as well.

For the first time we have a good number of structures on hand as well.

While there are the usual suspects present we have several new comers to
the meet as well. Amongst these is Bill Welch who is giving a clinic
tomorrow, Saturday. I can't wait to attend that one.

Tonight we closed to doors at about 530pm and around 30 of us went to a
local sea food restaurant for dinner. For me, this dinner is one of the
highlights of the meet.

After dinner there were two options. Some folks went to tour an outstanding
CRR layout while others went back to the show and attended a slide show
presented by Bob Graham and Warren Calloway. These two gents fanned and
fanned hard and their efforts resulted in some fine photos.

Tomorrow features more clinics and the door prize give away. We have
sufficient door prizes that everyone should get at least one.

Doors close at 5pm tomorrow afternoon and the curtain will come down on the
2011 version of the Savannah RPM.

Thanks to all who have attended so far and we hope to have more show up
tomorrow.

I urge ALL to make plans to attend next years meet.

Denis Blake
From Savannah,GA
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