Does anyone know if the C&O used a specific brand of roofwalk on their PS-1 Boxcars. I would have thought that they were all the same, however, I remembered that the WP used Morton roofwalks on their

Ed Mineswrote: I know for sure about Los Angeles, San Francisco and New Orleans. Whether Houston/Galveston or other Texas ports were also active through PFE, I am not sure, but it seems logical,

Is soft iron made in thin sheets than can be crumpled like aluminum foil? Ed Mines

Tony, any idea what ports PFE cars were loaded with bananas? Erie had leased reefers; I guess they made more money loading their own cars. Ed Mines

Friends I'm sorry, I just lost it when I found out about banana drovers! Care and feeding of the banana herd is a serious business, and we mustn't have any fun at the expense of our noble fruit... My

<<Failing a reputable citation, my conclusion: Tim's pulling out leg.>> Yes, But whose leg is he pulling out, and why????? . . . . ;-{) Steve Haas Snoqualmie, WA

Todd, you're probably correct. My guess was based on the proximity of the wreck to either Dundalk Marine Terminal (Baltimore) and the port of Philadelphia/Camden. The St. Lawrence Seaway opened in '58

Jeffrey White wrote: Whether this was true on the IC or not, I don't know, but PFE documents clearly identify the banana messengers as responsible for the welfare of the cargo (in that way, much

In Message #123512 Elden Gatwood listed the commoditieshauled in Pennsylvania’sH32 covered hoppers and noted these car were seen outside of PRR’s territory. Iassume the same commodity list applied

After spending significantly more time researching this than I did computing the average weight of lead lost on California's roads, I concur. I couldn't find a single reference to anything other than

"This is the origin of the term 'second banana.'" Sounds more like some original baloney to me. "Top banana," etc., are show-biz terms dating to the old vaudeville days. Andy

Steve: Thanks, this too is very helpful. The 94785 number is consistent with my 1935 OERE, but not the 1930, suggesting an early 1930s acquisition by Union. The 77340 number is consistent with

I agree with Dave that the load was of crates of some type much longer in one dimension than the other two. There appears to be packing material surrounding some type object that I have no clue what

Tim ( O'Connor). I think we are in agreement, but I don't understand your point. My point was that if the containers in the photo were 9' long, like the Walthers model, and were set 6 of them

Yep there is a LOT of info I didn’t type into the note too.

The 10-1939 Pullman Standard builder photo in the CBC is NKP 76007,loaded with 11 Youngstown bulk material containers. The LD LMT is 205000. On another page is an in-service photo of NKP 75006, with 8

Sorry I have not had time to dig through things to be able to give a more definitive response until now. I have the NKP 1947 folio diagrams for freight cars in our Folio Book and it includes

I don't know anything about the UP operations but the IC rostered a Banana Messenger caboose as late as 1960. It's my understanding that produce buyers rode the trains. The IC also

Dave, The photo of 94785 was used by Richard inan article on the P2k 8000 gallon Type 21 cars in the February 1998 RMJ. The photo was taken in 1945 and if from the MD McCarter collection. Thecar

The Walthers containers measure out at 9'0" x 4'6" .. Thosedimensions probably were chosen to fit their USRA gondola model. In the 1943 CBC are several photos of a 46'0" x 9'3" NKPgondola with 11