I know of a photo of a class C-16 B&O express car (made from M-53 wagon top boxcars) which has an expanded metal running board and end platforms. It no doubt kept them when returned to freight service

Tim, that bridge does not have to endure buff and draft forces. In other words, it will not have to pull a hundred other bridges nor have slack run in between the Big Horn Mountains and the Grand

Bob I have two photos, both after the period of this list. Car numbers 375160 and 377002. Both with APEX open grid running boards.

I appreciate all the insightful verbiage ... :-) but what got the cogs& wheels moving in my brain was the idea that a through-girder bridge has no"underframe" per se -- just a floor with cross-braces

The earliest example that I can find with Youngstown doors is a photo of B&O 381875, M-53, shopped at DuBois [DU] on 11-50 with the Barkan designated "Post War 13 Great States" lettering used from

Schuyler says: "Hey, Sheriff, how's it goin???" Well, not too bad although I have to say that the discussion about beams, bridges and frt car strength reminds me of the time too many yrs ago when in

Well, Tim, if you want to get into advance structural engineering, there are situations where depth of structure needs to be minimized. The first answer is that if you only had the top flange of a

---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote : exactly .. so why use the web if it only adds weight and cost, and nostrength ? ================= Tim, If talking about boxcars, to keep the load from

exactly .. so why use the web if it only adds weight and cost, and nostrength ?

Definitely by 1953, if not earlier. The large B&O initials were not applied to any M-53's until mid-1955. (source: Chris Barkan) Tim O'Connor

Following the usual unvarying rule that modeling interest is inversely related to the rarity/pecularity of the prototype, I would expect that anyone producing a kit for this car would clean

True, hard to tell for sure, but the roof looks rather Viking-ish to me. Schuyler Denny, et al, When I queried both the MILW and MILW Modelers Groups about the car in that ebay

Kevin, There is a plan for car 21329, series 21188-22187. It is in the sept. 1989 issue of Model Railroader. Another car, number 19191 in the January, 1992 issue of Mainline Modeler, along with a

Guys I'm looking for drawings for the 40' rib side boxcar. I need drawings for the ends and roof primarily. I contacted the historical society but they don't have any drawings. Any ideas where I

The Youngstown corrugated doors began to appear on the B&OM-53 class wagon top boxcars around 1953/4. That coincided with the use of the brighter, oxide red paint replacing B&O's freight car brown.

I use golden glow LEDs, then use "Gallery Glass" for the lenses. Gallery Glass is a liquid used to make "fake" stained glass, you can find it at Michaels and Hobby Lobby. That way I can have one led

Anyone know about what year the wagon top boxcars were rebuilt with the Youngstown/corrugated doors? Also, did metal running boards replace the wood running boards at the same time? Thank

I'm searching for drawings for these cars. I checked with the historical society and they don't have them on file. Really looking for ends and roof drawings so I can make a pattern. Thanks Kevin

Not an engineer but of late am spending many days studying and working from mechanical drawings of freight cars… As others have said, boxcar sides are very thin. For construction in the late

The photo can be adjusted to see those. [something to keep in mind for similar dark photos] But the angle is still going to make it difficult to determine which they are. Best to ya, Mike