I have a shot of a P&LE 65 foot mill gondola loaded with coal. :-)

Does anyone have photos of or know of the existence of GATC Type 30 underframe tanks of the UP O-50-6 and SP O-50-13 style (Athearn tank car) lettered for regular carriers, e.g. GATX or lessees of

There are many examples of gons, including a fair number off-line, carrying coal, in the Bob Charles Collection that was the fodder for the NMRA Postwar Freight Car Fleet book. Off the top of my head,

Hi, I will theorize that the destination had a lot to do with whether the car used was a coal hopper or a gondola. Especially if the receiver wasn't set up to unload by opening the doors below.

Tim, The photo date is noted as 1911, a full decade before the NC&StL cars were built. The box car lettered for NYC&HR would also indicate a pre-1920 date. It looks like there are three letters

​Barry, That is EXACTLY the correct interpretation. Bagged carbon black would be allowed, but not bulk carbon black. Presumably, small spills from broken bags would be easier to clean than a

The C&O/PM used used Ore Jennies in captured coal service in a pinch. These cars, designed for higher density ore, had extended sides for carrying lighter coal loads, and they refueled the Lake

Versatility was an issue. As labor costs went up, you could rationalize the cost a trestle and dumping coal via hopper doors . . . . or getting a crane with a bucket. Power plants began to seriously

It was "gondolas to the Lakes AND hopper cars to Tidewater for the C&O and N&W railroads up to WW One. Their Tidewater ports had high high-piers with side bunkers to dump coal in to load the coal

But could that be reasonably interpreted as not loading with loose bulk product, but that it is OK for bagged product? Barry Bennett Coventry, England.

cool ! i think that flat car is NC&StL, rumored to be the prototypefor the 42 foot TICHY flat car. Tim O'Connor

Dick, I think you included ORE JENNIES as "hoppers"here. Technically they are hopper cars, but I don't think they were used in coal service... I couldbe wrong. If you don't count the jennies, there

These are more photo links from the Ohio Memory website at: http://www.ohiomemory.org/cdm/ . http://www.ohiomemory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p267401coll32/id/9433/rec/948

"Do not load with... any commodity that will render it unfit for FLOUR and grain loading" Tim At 10/13/2016 01:08 AM Thursday, you wrote:

Jim Yes, it does!! And that's why I noted the stencil - it says not to load anything that would CONTAMINATE the car! And yet here they are, loading it with bags of carbon black! (go to the photo

Here's another neat machinery load from Jeffrey, this one in 1934. Estimating from the height of the man, I think this is probably an excess height load, close to 16' ATR. Notice that this is a

"Do not load with lime s.... bulk cement carbon black.... oil tar and creosote product... any commodity that will re.... it unfit for four or grain loa..." Not sure how the first three lines

Otto: I think better than 95% of the Sunnyside coal moving to Kaiser in the 1942-1958 period would be in D&RGW cars, and until the late 1950s, nearly 100% of that would be in gons. Foreign road cars

Doesn't it say to NOT load Carbon Black, along with several other items. Jim Gates --------------------------------------------

George writes: I expect coal shipments in gons were quite common into at least the 1920s I gave a short .5 hour presentation on gons to my historical society convention recently. Some exerts from