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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Hi,
Thanks to ALL for your answers. I learned more than I thought
I would. I have one followup question ...
I get it that the coal suppliers (mines/etc.) priced by the BTU.
But I don't think
Hi,
Thanks to ALL for your answers. I learned more than I thought
I would. I have one followup question ...
I get it that the coal suppliers (mines/etc.) priced by the BTU.
But I don't think
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Jim Betz
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#147833
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Re: Accurail 36 foot boxcars
Schuyler sssshhhhhh!
Greg
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs throughit.
Norman Maclean
Schuyler sssshhhhhh!
Greg
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs throughit.
Norman Maclean
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Greg Martin
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#147832
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
I had (and still do) study this coal issue, and from my observations and reading quite a bit of different sources. And I will state this mail order pamphlets about the time of WWII about “Train to
I had (and still do) study this coal issue, and from my observations and reading quite a bit of different sources. And I will state this mail order pamphlets about the time of WWII about “Train to
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np328
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#147831
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote :
But Gary, look at the roof itself. Left side, wood boards, right side,
Viking!
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I'm sorry, Schuyler, by no means is that a Viking
---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote :
But Gary, look at the roof itself. Left side, wood boards, right side,
Viking!
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I'm sorry, Schuyler, by no means is that a Viking
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Dennis Storzek
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#147830
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Re: Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Vol. 3 and FOFC re-prints
Ted (and others),
For those of us who have not (yet) invested in the Focus on Freight Cars series, could you talk a little bit about what differentiates it from the Reference Manual series? Is the
Ted (and others),
For those of us who have not (yet) invested in the Focus on Freight Cars series, could you talk a little bit about what differentiates it from the Reference Manual series? Is the
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culturalinfidel9@...
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#147828
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Re: [ATSF] Re: ATSF caboose truck
Jon,
Walthers also makes a less detailed one, Walthers Part # 920-2031
p. 171 2017 HO Scale Reference Bookp. 207 2016 HO Scale Reference Book
John
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates
Jon,
Walthers also makes a less detailed one, Walthers Part # 920-2031
p. 171 2017 HO Scale Reference Bookp. 207 2016 HO Scale Reference Book
John
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates
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John Barry
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#147827
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
> It also appears that there was a pretty significantredistribution flow (From Wash to Wash)
> that was probably from the coal docks in the Tacoma tide flatsor Puget Sound.
> Charles Hostetler
Could
> It also appears that there was a pretty significantredistribution flow (From Wash to Wash)
> that was probably from the coal docks in the Tacoma tide flatsor Puget Sound.
> Charles Hostetler
Could
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Tim O'Connor
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#147826
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Re: ATSF caboose truck
Jon,
Try the Kadee 583 for an unpowered or 593 with pick up leads if you want to light your marker lamps/interior.
John John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville,
Jon,
Try the Kadee 583 for an unpowered or 593 with pick up leads if you want to light your marker lamps/interior.
John John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville,
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John Barry
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#147825
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Utah coal was shipped all over the Pacific coast for many decades in the steam and early diesel eras. Most of the coal mines were in Carbon County.
Specific shipments I know of included:
(1) to the
Utah coal was shipped all over the Pacific coast for many decades in the steam and early diesel eras. Most of the coal mines were in Carbon County.
Specific shipments I know of included:
(1) to the
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Dave Nelson
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#147824
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Jim Betz wrote
For instance - where would coal for such purposes have beenshipped
from - going to locations in Central or Northern California? Iknow
there was coal in Utah that was being shipped
Jim Betz wrote
For instance - where would coal for such purposes have beenshipped
from - going to locations in Central or Northern California? Iknow
there was coal in Utah that was being shipped
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Tim O'Connor
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#147823
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Hi Jim,
I took a quick look for shipments of coal to California, Oregon, and Washington In 1951 and 1952 from the 1% Waybill Survey. These figures are carloads in the sample; to estimate carloads per
Hi Jim,
I took a quick look for shipments of coal to California, Oregon, and Washington In 1951 and 1952 from the 1% Waybill Survey. These figures are carloads in the sample; to estimate carloads per
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Charles Hostetler
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#147822
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Not when the ICC was in charge. Maybe today.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538;
Not when the ICC was in charge. Maybe today.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538;
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Tony Thompson
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#147821
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Jim Betz wrote:
Two points: first, it depends on a number of factors as to route, etc.. Second, steam coal to a power plant, or premium locomotive coal, is very different from coal for fuel at a
Jim Betz wrote:
Two points: first, it depends on a number of factors as to route, etc.. Second, steam coal to a power plant, or premium locomotive coal, is very different from coal for fuel at a
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Tony Thompson
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#147820
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Jim,
The Southern Pacific in the 1890s was shipping coal from Australia,Japan and British Columbia.
Tom VanWormer
Documenting the 1890s
jimbetz jimbetz@... [STMFC] wrote:
Jim,
The Southern Pacific in the 1890s was shipping coal from Australia,Japan and British Columbia.
Tom VanWormer
Documenting the 1890s
jimbetz jimbetz@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Tom Vanwormer
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#147829
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
>> How far would coal be shipped in hoppers?
ALL tariffs after the creation of the ICC were subject toregulation
and review. In order to ship commodity X from point A to point Bthere
had to be a
>> How far would coal be shipped in hoppers?
ALL tariffs after the creation of the ICC were subject toregulation
and review. In order to ship commodity X from point A to point Bthere
had to be a
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Tim O'Connor
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#147819
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
Not to be picky but 10 miles or 15 miles is a local charge and would be different than long haul . . . many times two local runs say from mine to the yard and the yard to the customer.
Al Kresse
Not to be picky but 10 miles or 15 miles is a local charge and would be different than long haul . . . many times two local runs say from mine to the yard and the yard to the customer.
Al Kresse
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Al Kresse <water.kresse@...>
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#147818
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Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?
JIm I believe back then all commodities traveled by a ton mile price. So if A traveled 10 miles and B traveled 15 miles. A would be cheaper for the same tonnage. Then there is also the price of the
JIm I believe back then all commodities traveled by a ton mile price. So if A traveled 10 miles and B traveled 15 miles. A would be cheaper for the same tonnage. Then there is also the price of the
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Bill Vaughn
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#147817
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ATSF caboose truck
Are there any trucks close to this one? Also this is from the side door caboose so wonder if by '41 the trucks were changed? Not even sure these were used at all by '41!
Are there any trucks close to this one? Also this is from the side door caboose so wonder if by '41 the trucks were changed? Not even sure these were used at all by '41!
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Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
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#147816
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Shipping Coal - How Far?
Hi,
How far would coal be shipped in hoppers? Especially as
it relates to the West Coast. I'm talking about regular
everyday coal for steam - such as to a railroad or to a
cement plant (or any
Hi,
How far would coal be shipped in hoppers? Especially as
it relates to the West Coast. I'm talking about regular
everyday coal for steam - such as to a railroad or to a
cement plant (or any
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Jim Betz
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#147815
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
I have an Icing Scene photo that must date just after Western Fruit was formed showing two of their reefers still mostly in their GN scheme with large Goat but with their "GN" reporting marks painted
I have an Icing Scene photo that must date just after Western Fruit was formed showing two of their reefers still mostly in their GN scheme with large Goat but with their "GN" reporting marks painted
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Bill Welch
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#147814
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