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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
To this day I am pleased with the mix, and it has solidified my belief that even large corporations may seek the economy and convenience of stock,
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
To this day I am pleased with the mix, and it has solidified my belief that even large corporations may seek the economy and convenience of stock,
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
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Re: ART reefer with swing-plug door
Tim
I have a builder photo of No. 37000 dated June 1957
Don Ford
Cameron MO
On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 10:39:40 PM CST, Tim O'Connor
Tim
I have a builder photo of No. 37000 dated June 1957
Don Ford
Cameron MO
On Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 10:39:40 PM CST, Tim O'Connor
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ford.donald77 <ford.donald77@...>
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Re: Tichy USRA clone kit
I need help - I need a drawing of the National bottom door bracket and rollers as used on the USRA DS boxcars. I'm building this car in 1" scale and my primary reference is "Railway Prototype
I need help - I need a drawing of the National bottom door bracket and rollers as used on the USRA DS boxcars. I'm building this car in 1" scale and my primary reference is "Railway Prototype
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James Miller
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
The attached link give the mathemactical equasion for color matching.
Modern commercial paint matches are concidered acceptable with a Delta E (dE) of +/- .5. This is a visual match, at arms lenth
The attached link give the mathemactical equasion for color matching.
Modern commercial paint matches are concidered acceptable with a Delta E (dE) of +/- .5. This is a visual match, at arms lenth
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Frank Grimm <fddms@...>
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
Friends,
Something nobody has mentioned is that in the early years of the 20th century, some railroads were still buying dry pigment (probably in barrels) and mixing their own
Friends,
Something nobody has mentioned is that in the early years of the 20th century, some railroads were still buying dry pigment (probably in barrels) and mixing their own
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
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The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
Hello-
One thing to think of about colors is costs of custom blends. If a RR was to have a special color, getting timely restocks could be delayed, and the costs could be hard to justify to
Hello-
One thing to think of about colors is costs of custom blends. If a RR was to have a special color, getting timely restocks could be delayed, and the costs could be hard to justify to
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Andy Carlson
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
When a shop had pride, and someone felt that it mattered (and with freight cars it normally didn't) they would often retain small odd lots of previous paint orders so they could have some chance of
When a shop had pride, and someone felt that it mattered (and with freight cars it normally didn't) they would often retain small odd lots of previous paint orders so they could have some chance of
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
A comment that really has little bearing on the matter at hand, but I absolutely love the black and yellow scheme.
I understand the desire on the part of management to set the passenger units of on a
A comment that really has little bearing on the matter at hand, but I absolutely love the black and yellow scheme.
I understand the desire on the part of management to set the passenger units of on a
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John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
Don, I can shed some light on this question, MAYBE.
When the ERIE’s PAs were delivered, they wore a black and yellow paint scheme, adapted from the freight locomotives. Later the ERIE bought
Don, I can shed some light on this question, MAYBE.
When the ERIE’s PAs were delivered, they wore a black and yellow paint scheme, adapted from the freight locomotives. Later the ERIE bought
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Schuyler Larrabee
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ART reefer with swing-plug door
When were these built? Are they identical to the PFE R-40-27?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372534810668
Tim O'
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*
When were these built? Are they identical to the PFE R-40-27?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372534810668
Tim O'
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
Another consideration concerning paint, color matching, and cost.
Anyone who has purchased paint commercially, even model paint, knows that, unlike the paint department at the big box store,
Another consideration concerning paint, color matching, and cost.
Anyone who has purchased paint commercially, even model paint, knows that, unlike the paint department at the big box store,
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
This discussion brings to mind something I was told by Earl Hopkins, retired Chief Mechanical Officer of PFE, about paint color matching. He said that the PFE representative at the manufacturing plant
This discussion brings to mind something I was told by Earl Hopkins, retired Chief Mechanical Officer of PFE, about paint color matching. He said that the PFE representative at the manufacturing plant
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Tony Thompson
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Tichy USRA clone kit
Railway Metal Products, Union Metal Products, and Standard Railway Equipment were all related companies by 1927, according to this Railway Age note:
"The Standard Railway Equipment Company, the Union
Railway Metal Products, Union Metal Products, and Standard Railway Equipment were all related companies by 1927, according to this Railway Age note:
"The Standard Railway Equipment Company, the Union
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David
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Re: NP box car colors in the 50's... OT quality control.
The Delano picture brought to mind when I worked at the "Yellow Box". The yellow color of those Kodak film boxes was patented. We had to run to a standard... in and out color charts and use a
The Delano picture brought to mind when I worked at the "Yellow Box". The yellow color of those Kodak film boxes was patented. We had to run to a standard... in and out color charts and use a
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Gordon
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
I suspect this research was more about things like durability and opacity than whether they met the exact color they wanted. Note the photo shows many samples of colors that are very similar.
Also,
I suspect this research was more about things like durability and opacity than whether they met the exact color they wanted. Note the photo shows many samples of colors that are very similar.
Also,
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Richard Townsend
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Re: Whose hopper?
Curt
Judging from the car's markings (no COTS panels) I'd say closer to 1970 than to 1980.
There were still 2,178 of these cars in series 90500 to 90799, and 90800 to 92899 still in SLSF service in
Curt
Judging from the car's markings (no COTS panels) I'd say closer to 1970 than to 1980.
There were still 2,178 of these cars in series 90500 to 90799, and 90800 to 92899 still in SLSF service in
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
I have another question with regard to paint suppliers on a road the length of the NP. Would the paint bought
at a specific time be used by all shops on the railroad or did different shops use
I have another question with regard to paint suppliers on a road the length of the NP. Would the paint bought
at a specific time be used by all shops on the railroad or did different shops use
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Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
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Re: Paint colors
I'll go you one better Mike. There is a fairly well known photo by Don Hills of Central Vermont #601 leaving
White River Jct., VT on the northbound Ambassador with three B&M passenger cars each in a
I'll go you one better Mike. There is a fairly well known photo by Don Hills of Central Vermont #601 leaving
White River Jct., VT on the northbound Ambassador with three B&M passenger cars each in a
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Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
In general, I agree with Jim's point. I think we obsess more about paint color than did most railroads back in the day. And quality control WRT paint color was probably a fair bit cruder than it is
In general, I agree with Jim's point. I think we obsess more about paint color than did most railroads back in the day. And quality control WRT paint color was probably a fair bit cruder than it is
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Dave Parker
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Re: The curious case of NP box car colors in the 50's
If there are any letters or inter-company correspondence concerning paint matching or miss-matching, in decades of research, I have never seen them. For the numerous times I have diligently researched
If there are any letters or inter-company correspondence concerning paint matching or miss-matching, in decades of research, I have never seen them. For the numerous times I have diligently researched
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np328
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