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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Pennsy Well-Hole Flats Question
Bill;
And , part 2, neither was a well "hole" flat. Those were only class F37B, and sometimes F49 with removal of floor boards. There were also some F25 sub-classes that were virtually well holes
Bill;
And , part 2, neither was a well "hole" flat. Those were only class F37B, and sometimes F49 with removal of floor boards. There were also some F25 sub-classes that were virtually well holes
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
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#163149
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Pennsy Well-Hole Flats Question
Bill;
IIRC, there were 20 F33 and only 2 F28's.
And see fun attachments.
Elden Gatwood
Bill;
IIRC, there were 20 F33 and only 2 F28's.
And see fun attachments.
Elden Gatwood
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
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#163148
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Pennsy Well-Hole Flats Question
Hoping one of the PRR modelers here can can help me. Which of their Well Hole Flats was most common, their F28 or the F33?
Thank you!
Bill Welch
Hoping one of the PRR modelers here can can help me. Which of their Well Hole Flats was most common, their F28 or the F33?
Thank you!
Bill Welch
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Bill Welch
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#163147
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High Point Thomasville & Denton
Here are few photos of the interesting cars. It looks like their doors were replaced in the late 1940's/early 1950's. Maybe that is when the broad light stripe was added. I am not sure if the stripe
Here are few photos of the interesting cars. It looks like their doors were replaced in the late 1940's/early 1950's. Maybe that is when the broad light stripe was added. I am not sure if the stripe
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Bill Welch
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#163146
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)
Bruce:
OK, but what is the evidence that the PRR bothered to swap out the arch-bar trucks within ~6 years of construction on the early X29s that were so equipped? Unless somebody has a cache of
Bruce:
OK, but what is the evidence that the PRR bothered to swap out the arch-bar trucks within ~6 years of construction on the early X29s that were so equipped? Unless somebody has a cache of
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Dave Parker
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)
Bob,
No shi… That was not the point of the discussion. The point was how long they were kept on PRR’s X29s. Unless you have information that indicates that PRR had some 1923-24 production X29s
Bob,
No shi… That was not the point of the discussion. The point was how long they were kept on PRR’s X29s. Unless you have information that indicates that PRR had some 1923-24 production X29s
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Bruce Smith
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#163144
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)
Arch bar trucks were around for a bit longer.
June 1937: Nearly 377,000 freight cars (17% of all freight cars) equipped with arch bar trucks.
1940 - Arch bar trucks banned from interchange.
Bob
Arch bar trucks were around for a bit longer.
June 1937: Nearly 377,000 freight cars (17% of all freight cars) equipped with arch bar trucks.
1940 - Arch bar trucks banned from interchange.
Bob
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Bob Chaparro
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#163143
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New Decals, New Website and New Email
Hello everyone,
Three updates this month, worthy of a careful read:
1. I have released a new decal set for IC 53’/60’ GSC flatcars 1957+. Brown or black flatcar, white lettering. Enough
Hello everyone,
Three updates this month, worthy of a careful read:
1. I have released a new decal set for IC 53’/60’ GSC flatcars 1957+. Brown or black flatcar, white lettering. Enough
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Daniel Kohlberg
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#163142
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
Not claiming the B-5 was their signature car, simply a very interesting looking steel boxcar unlike any other with its heavily riveted drop side sill. Another interesting N&W boxcars was the flush
Not claiming the B-5 was their signature car, simply a very interesting looking steel boxcar unlike any other with its heavily riveted drop side sill. Another interesting N&W boxcars was the flush
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Bill Welch
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#163141
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Re: HTP&D and WIF boxcars/reefers [was PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)]
Tim,
Yes. The 1958 WIF roster includes 101-199, 10' IH cars with a 3548 cubic foot capacity. There are only 10 cars shown in the series though.
Curiously, I don't
Tim,
Yes. The 1958 WIF roster includes 101-199, 10' IH cars with a 3548 cubic foot capacity. There are only 10 cars shown in the series though.
Curiously, I don't
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
Tim,
Typo or not, the two cars do not appear to have the same proportions to my eye. CHP 5547 seems to be shorter, but this could be camera distortion. I suspect it is an X29,
Tim,
Typo or not, the two cars do not appear to have the same proportions to my eye. CHP 5547 seems to be shorter, but this could be camera distortion. I suspect it is an X29,
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
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#163139
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Re: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale) Was reservations needed
Sunshine offered kits of both the N&W BP/BPa (kits 26.16 and 26.17) and the HPT&D/WIF cars (kits 102.10 and 102.12). To re-emphasize, they're different heights both from each other and from the
Sunshine offered kits of both the N&W BP/BPa (kits 26.16 and 26.17) and the HPT&D/WIF cars (kits 102.10 and 102.12). To re-emphasize, they're different heights both from each other and from the
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al_brown03
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#163138
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Re: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale) Was reservations needed
We discussed these years ago. Yes, they were 10-0 IH box cars built to the 1923 ARA design.
Some of them ended up on the West India Fruit roster.
Tim O'
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Tim
We discussed these years ago. Yes, they were 10-0 IH box cars built to the 1923 ARA design.
Some of them ended up on the West India Fruit roster.
Tim O'
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Tim
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Tim O'Connor
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#163137
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
it's obviously a typo. the cars are obviously the same height (compare the doors)
the cars are not listed in the 1975 ORER. probably in company service at the date of the photos.
it's obviously a typo. the cars are obviously the same height (compare the doors)
the cars are not listed in the 1975 ORER. probably in company service at the date of the photos.
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Tim O'Connor
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#163136
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
Would you settle for both ?
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
Would you settle for both ?
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
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Pierre Oliver
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#163135
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Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
Which B5? The first batch of 500 had a flat roof and 5-4 ends, and the second order for 1,000 had a Murphy roof and 5-5 ends. In either case, they were no more statistically representative than any
Which B5? The first batch of 500 had a flat roof and 5-4 ends, and the second order for 1,000 had a Murphy roof and 5-5 ends. In either case, they were no more statistically representative than any
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David
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#163134
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Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
Yes, about half of the original class BS cars were rebuilt to widebody B7 and B7a in the late '40s, and the wagontop class B1 and B2 were rebuilt with new roofs and doors in the mid-'50s.
David
Yes, about half of the original class BS cars were rebuilt to widebody B7 and B7a in the late '40s, and the wagontop class B1 and B2 were rebuilt with new roofs and doors in the mid-'50s.
David
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David
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#163133
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
Hi Bruce and List Members,
Bruce wrote: “I don't believe that the arch bars lasted beyond 1930”
Images showing PRR X29 cars with archbar trucks are quite rare. But I do have one image that
Hi Bruce and List Members,
Bruce wrote: “I don't believe that the arch bars lasted beyond 1930”
Images showing PRR X29 cars with archbar trucks are quite rare. But I do have one image that
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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#163132
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Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale)
The capacity information on both cars is metric (KGS). Without doing the math they sure look like X29 cars. 5547 has a build date of 4-25 and 5598 build date 4-23 that CHP could have wrong. There
The capacity information on both cars is metric (KGS). Without doing the math they sure look like X29 cars. 5547 has a build date of 4-25 and 5598 build date 4-23 that CHP could have wrong. There
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Matt Herson
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#163131
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Re: PRR X29 Boxcar (HO Scale) Was reservations needed
Don,
In 1958 the HPT&D owned four boxcars, conveniently numbered 401-404. They had a 10' IH, and were 3548 cu ft. I don't know if these were the cars you referenced or not.
Don,
In 1958 the HPT&D owned four boxcars, conveniently numbered 401-404. They had a 10' IH, and were 3548 cu ft. I don't know if these were the cars you referenced or not.
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Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
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#163130
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