I know I am late to this party, but felt that I should note that PFE, SP and UP continued equipment end lettering well into the 1970s and beyond. The SP and PFE lettering is well documented in

Bill just finished a M&StL XM-1 box car with a third brake lever. I'm building a Sunshine RI XM-1 now. Looking at the photo provided there appeared to be extra stuff under the car. So I added the

Thanks for the advise guys, much appreciated. When I past the info on to my friend he added he was only interested in the five local roads - CGW, CNW, M&StL, MILW, RI So, guess he's SOL. CW Propst.

There was another book written as well about the NYO&W. It is titled O&W, the Long Life and Slow Death of the New York, Ontario & Western Ry., by William F. Helmer, published 1959 by Howell-North. I

FWIW, the complete 1951 PFE Refrigerator Car Diagrams book (and other stuff) is available at : https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFE-FRT-DATA Cheers, Dick Harley Laguna Beach, CA

Good morning: As far as I know, Bob lives in the upstate N.Y. area around or in Saratoga Springs. I talked to him several years ago. He wrote a great hardcover book (350 plus pages), called “The

All in-service photos I have of the 8000-series boxcars and of the coke car conversions show BLACK ends. The Pullman builder's photos and most in-service photos seem to indicate unpainted galvanized

I should have mentioned my paint colors were are built. Some cars did get FCC ends when repainted. Brian J. Carlson

Those must be the cars I've found photos of... battered black USRA twins with a simple "OW" and number in white, no name, no herald. Somehow the "ow" seems fitting. Dennis Storzek

The NKP, Erie, PM and C&O were all part of the Van Sweringen brother's empire at this time and had joint standards for lettering and painting. Road specific fonts for none-data stencils were unique

I've not seen many photos of NYO&W cars offline, but this is one I have seen - gondola 6366 in Sheldon Springs, Vermont in Sept 1941. https://www.loc.gov/resource/fsa.8c07268/ Marty McGuirk

As an on-and-off O&W modeler, 'hermit road' is a pretty decent description. Once the on-line anthracite mines played out / went bankrupt in 1937 the railroad (which held mortgages on those very

Black ends surviving the first repainting seems pretty uncommon among C&O and Pere Marquette boxcars, from most photos I've seen, and recollections of friends who frequented yards in the '40s and

Bill and Brian, These cars were covered in an article by Pat Wider in RPC 19. Pullman builder's photos show the ends as black. The trucks also appear to be black, so the underframe probably was too.

And Bob Mohowski, devoted O&W modeler, who is still probably lurking about in Upstate New York. Todd Sullivan Rowlett, TX

Bill Ends black, Underbody black, Trucks black (unpainted castings). Roof unclear. The running board is unpainted galvanized. The seam caps look painted. The entire roof may be freight car color or

Above is an Overland brass car. I was told by a very knowledgable modeler that the ends should be black. He did not, however, have any information on the roof, underframes and trucks. Were they

I did two of them, one in CNJ and the other in a LV paint scheme they have never done. Rick Jesionowski

I think I saw a photo of a NYO&W hopper car at Harriman, on the Union Pacific! 😉 (note: this might have been in Mike Brock universe...) Armand, as others have noted, this road was definitely a

For models, keep watch on eBay. You might find some steam and an OW wood drop-bottom gon. For books, check bookfinder.com. Also, brasstrains.com is a good place: