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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Dennis, Folks,
Part of the issue with defining the color of red lead primer is that, as a natural metal oxide, its color can vary.
Webster's dictionary defines red lead as "an orange-red to brick-red
Dennis, Folks,
Part of the issue with defining the color of red lead primer is that, as a natural metal oxide, its color can vary.
Webster's dictionary defines red lead as "an orange-red to brick-red
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Bruce Smith
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Re: Ajax brake parts
I agree with Dan, I had thought Terry Wegmann sold his AB brake set thru Details West.
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
I agree with Dan, I had thought Terry Wegmann sold his AB brake set thru Details West.
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
To expand on Dave Parker’s post…
In the 1900 / 1907 painting guides for the B&M (Available from the B&MRRHS), caboose sides were “Brown”, ends (including cupola ends) were “Red”.
To expand on Dave Parker’s post…
In the 1900 / 1907 painting guides for the B&M (Available from the B&MRRHS), caboose sides were “Brown”, ends (including cupola ends) were “Red”.
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akerboomk
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Actually that started in 1955. Ends were Daylight Orange and so specified on the lettering drawing.
Tony Thompson
tony@...
Actually that started in 1955. Ends were Daylight Orange and so specified on the lettering drawing.
Tony Thompson
tony@...
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Tony Thompson
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Dave,
The Sacramento Northern did this with their cabooses from at least the late 1930s. The practice stopped on some repaints of cabooses obtained from the WP in the early 1950s as far as I can tell
Dave,
The Sacramento Northern did this with their cabooses from at least the late 1930s. The practice stopped on some repaints of cabooses obtained from the WP in the early 1950s as far as I can tell
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Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
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Re: NYC reblt gon
To add, most of the "USRA" gondolas that the Central owned were actually built as all-steel clones from 1925 to 1929. The actual wood-sheathed USRA gons (that were later rebuilt into the F&C kit's
To add, most of the "USRA" gondolas that the Central owned were actually built as all-steel clones from 1925 to 1929. The actual wood-sheathed USRA gons (that were later rebuilt into the F&C kit's
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nyc3001 .
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Re: Car Builder’s Dictionaries
Mike, you are correct I should not have brought this up with this group but my reason was it is just another name of a device used incorrectly. To be clear a speed recorder was never mounted on the
Mike, you are correct I should not have brought this up with this group but my reason was it is just another name of a device used incorrectly. To be clear a speed recorder was never mounted on the
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Ed Mims
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Re: NYC reblt gon
It would most likely have been red at the time. Some NYC hoppers, gondolas, and flatcars were black before 1941, but they were repainted to oxide red after that date.
-Phil
It would most likely have been red at the time. Some NYC hoppers, gondolas, and flatcars were black before 1941, but they were repainted to oxide red after that date.
-Phil
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Yes, back to the question. Red fades and was a problem. But, B&O "Devils Red" maybe late 1930s and NKP post war I am pretty sure. PRR, NYC, et al, stayed with the more brown color (this is best way I
Yes, back to the question. Red fades and was a problem. But, B&O "Devils Red" maybe late 1930s and NKP post war I am pretty sure. PRR, NYC, et al, stayed with the more brown color (this is best way I
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Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Hi Jim, well to put in my comment, but for the MP not GN, the MP painted its cabooses 'caboose red' as did the Iron Mountain before the MP bought it in 1915. So caboose red was an early paint . We
Hi Jim, well to put in my comment, but for the MP not GN, the MP painted its cabooses 'caboose red' as did the Iron Mountain before the MP bought it in 1915. So caboose red was an early paint . We
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Jerry Michels
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Re: Car Builder’s Dictionaries
From the definition in the 1879 CBD I would suspect this later became the "roping staple".
Dennis Storzek
From the definition in the 1879 CBD I would suspect this later became the "roping staple".
Dennis Storzek
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Dennis Storzek
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Ralph,
In the Coast Guard we called zinc chromate "green death". The drill was
Chip, Paint, and Soogey. Chip off the old paint until you got down to bare
metal (using a chipping hammer), paint it
Ralph,
In the Coast Guard we called zinc chromate "green death". The drill was
Chip, Paint, and Soogey. Chip off the old paint until you got down to bare
metal (using a chipping hammer), paint it
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Jim Betz
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
OK - we all agree that the paint called "red lead" wasn't very red. Done.
But this thread has been entirely hijacked by those posting - correct information
that isn't exactly "on topic" ... the OP
OK - we all agree that the paint called "red lead" wasn't very red. Done.
But this thread has been entirely hijacked by those posting - correct information
that isn't exactly "on topic" ... the OP
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Jim Betz
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Re: Photo: NYC Gondola 501235 With Heavily Weathered Canisters
Available in HO scale brass
https://americanscalemodels.com/image/cache/data/Models/M%20-%20NYC%20Cement%20-%206-900x900-0.JPG
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Available in HO scale brass
https://americanscalemodels.com/image/cache/data/Models/M%20-%20NYC%20Cement%20-%206-900x900-0.JPG
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Not unless it has been adulterated with something. The red lead primer I'm familiar with has a bright orange color. The iron workers at the transit authority used it a lot for priming the overlapping
Not unless it has been adulterated with something. The red lead primer I'm familiar with has a bright orange color. The iron workers at the transit authority used it a lot for priming the overlapping
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Dennis Storzek
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Re: Car Builder’s Dictionaries
It appears that sill steps and running boards are standard nomenclature defined by federal statute, whereas the same statute used both grab irons and handholds as standard nomenclature.
It appears that sill steps and running boards are standard nomenclature defined by federal statute, whereas the same statute used both grab irons and handholds as standard nomenclature.
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Kenneth Montero
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Re: Car Builder’s Dictionaries
Thanks for the correction on this point Dave. Throughout my industry career, I was taught that they were properly referred to as "hand holds", and never thought it necessary to check on this; however,
Thanks for the correction on this point Dave. Throughout my industry career, I was taught that they were properly referred to as "hand holds", and never thought it necessary to check on this; however,
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Chris Barkan
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Re: Car Builder’s Dictionaries
We don’t have to guess what the actual railroad industry terms were, because we have the definitions in volumes of the Cyclopedias. Richard Hendrickson always advocated using those defined terms as
We don’t have to guess what the actual railroad industry terms were, because we have the definitions in volumes of the Cyclopedias. Richard Hendrickson always advocated using those defined terms as
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Tony Thompson
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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] caboose colors
Attached photo, Iron Workers 1960 (no tie off BUT hard hats?). The "red iron" and I agree it is pretty much orange!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Attached photo, Iron Workers 1960 (no tie off BUT hard hats?). The "red iron" and I agree it is pretty much orange!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
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Re: Hills Bros. box cars [was: Mystery boxcar]
Garth Groff wrote:
As the cars were not in interchange service, I don’t see why they would be in an ORER.
Tony Thompson
tony@...
Garth Groff wrote:
As the cars were not in interchange service, I don’t see why they would be in an ORER.
Tony Thompson
tony@...
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Tony Thompson
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