We had a very extensive discussion about the "billboard reefer ban" back in 2014. View it here: https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/topic/17252367#124611 The first thing to understand is it wasn't

Thanks, Guy, for the details on this. Tony Thompson tony@...

Here you are Bill. Ckarlie Sent from Outlook

Well then, when did this exclusive prohibition of refrigerator cars bearing product names relax? I am thinking of Manufacturer's Railway Service Ralston-Purina checkerboard insulated/ventilated cars,

I was trying to get more discussion of that point with my initial question. Thank you for that! Ed Bommer

Ed. Leasees could still have limited product information on the cars including logos and service marks. Swift leased the cars so they complied. It’s all explained in the prior messages. Brian J.

Ed It's pretty simple, really. Ask yourself whether a *leased* car (owned by lessor X) could be loaded with Vendor A's products but still carry advertising for Vendor

Well then, when did this exclusive prohibition of refrigerator cars bearing product names relax? I am thinking of Manufacturer's Railway Service Ralston-Purina checkerboard insulated/ventilated cars,

Interchange rules apply all cars interchanged between railroads, whether RR owned or privately owned. Richard Webster

Another thank you for another tidbit of information. Has anyone ever seen a photo of a SRLX 25xxx Reefer in service? Started as maybe 50 cars and 39 listed as of '72. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung

Vendors are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they (mostly) offer only kits at the inception of a model and once those are gone, that's it, then that causes

In July 1972 SRLX 1000-15799 17 cars 36 foot RAM brine tank refrigerators SRLX 15800-24999 6 cars 36 foot RSM ice reefers SRLX 25000-24099 39

What about privately owned and operated refrigerator/ventilator cars. Were they included in that interchange ban as well? Ed Bommer

Haha :-D I had to look that up! Tim O'Connor -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts

And covered hoppers and tank cars were specifically exempted from the billboard ban. Scott Chatfield

Andy, None of that makes any difference.The problem is, those companies we think of as manufacturers, really aren't; they contract all their manufacturing out. As such, they have no direct control

No new ones after 1934, old ones banned from interchange in 1937 (or was it 1938?), See the Billboard Reefer book by Hendrickson and Kaminski. Tony Thompson

There is one simple answer. Very few people buy kits. If the demand was high and the companies made a profit, there would be kits. Jerry Michels

Gary Ray wrote: “Does anyone know the date of the banning? Also, how long were billboard cars allowed to run - was it just until they needed repainting? If memory serves me right, that would

Guy Wilber already answered this earlier in the thread. Brian J. Carlson