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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
Here's an interesting picture for at least two of us. Maybe more.
That's a T43 being delivered to Aberdeen Proving Ground for testing. Date appears to be March 25, 1952.
The big flats weren't
Here's an interesting picture for at least two of us. Maybe more.
That's a T43 being delivered to Aberdeen Proving Ground for testing. Date appears to be March 25, 1952.
The big flats weren't
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spsalso
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#187903
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
Nice model Dan!
Didn’t Roco make two versions of USATC Flats….the one pictured and another with straight sides? AMTRAK got a bunch of them and likely used them to move locomotive and passenger
Nice model Dan!
Didn’t Roco make two versions of USATC Flats….the one pictured and another with straight sides? AMTRAK got a bunch of them and likely used them to move locomotive and passenger
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Charlie Vlk
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#187902
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
While in the future of this list, I photographed several M103s on flat cars in Anniston, GA during a Southern Steam Excursion from Columbus, GA in about 1975.
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
From:
While in the future of this list, I photographed several M103s on flat cars in Anniston, GA during a Southern Steam Excursion from Columbus, GA in about 1975.
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
From:
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BRIAN PAUL EHNI
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#187901
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
The M-103 was a most impressive vehicle. The first pilot model was completed in 1949, but the productionmachines didn’t appear until 1953, so it’s right at the end off the steam-era.
For more info
The M-103 was a most impressive vehicle. The first pilot model was completed in 1949, but the productionmachines didn’t appear until 1953, so it’s right at the end off the steam-era.
For more info
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Daniel A. Mitchell
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#187900
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
In 1949, the T43 heavy tank was approved for development. It eventually became the M103 heavy tank, of which 300 were built.
They weighed about 65 tons. One fits nicely on the 100 ton flats that are
In 1949, the T43 heavy tank was approved for development. It eventually became the M103 heavy tank, of which 300 were built.
They weighed about 65 tons. One fits nicely on the 100 ton flats that are
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spsalso
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#187899
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I received my Rapido X31s today
And they are up to their usual standard, they all came with two brake types so you can put the right one for your era on the car.
Jeff White
Alma IL
And they are up to their usual standard, they all came with two brake types so you can put the right one for your era on the car.
Jeff White
Alma IL
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Jeffrey White
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#187898
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
Guys;
Interesting topic.
I read much correspondence, also on how many M-4’s you could fit in a cargo ship, vs. larger tanks.
Bruce is correct, and I’d also add that until Leslie McNair
Guys;
Interesting topic.
I read much correspondence, also on how many M-4’s you could fit in a cargo ship, vs. larger tanks.
Bruce is correct, and I’d also add that until Leslie McNair
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
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#187897
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
Hudson,
While size may have played a role (in addition to offloading capabilities, there were concerns about mobility, infrastructure strength, etc… with heavier tanks), probably the biggest
Hudson,
While size may have played a role (in addition to offloading capabilities, there were concerns about mobility, infrastructure strength, etc… with heavier tanks), probably the biggest
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Bruce Smith
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#187896
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
The M4 tank was a Medium tank and one of the reasons that the US did not field a Heavy tank was that the M4's
weight was just about the maximum capacity of the onboard ship cranes of the era.
-Hudso
The M4 tank was a Medium tank and one of the reasons that the US did not field a Heavy tank was that the M4's
weight was just about the maximum capacity of the onboard ship cranes of the era.
-Hudso
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Hudson Leighton
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#187895
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
There’s some confusion in the statement "DODX six-axle flat cars were manufactured in 1953 to handle the Patton family of tanks, which were considerably heavier than their predecessors”. Tanks
There’s some confusion in the statement "DODX six-axle flat cars were manufactured in 1953 to handle the Patton family of tanks, which were considerably heavier than their predecessors”. Tanks
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Daniel A. Mitchell
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#187894
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New RPM Announced: Batavia New York, April 3 2022
I'm helping to spread the word about a new Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet scheduled for April 3, 2022 at Batavia, New York (about halfway between Buffalo and Rochester). It will be held in
I'm helping to spread the word about a new Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet scheduled for April 3, 2022 at Batavia, New York (about halfway between Buffalo and Rochester). It will be held in
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G.J. Irwin
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#187893
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
Pure speculation on my part: the war was over and the army did not need the cars. But the pent up consumer demand had been released and the railroads had beaten many cars to death during the war, so
Pure speculation on my part: the war was over and the army did not need the cars. But the pent up consumer demand had been released and the railroads had beaten many cars to death during the war, so
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Richard Townsend
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#187892
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
The 1947 and 1948 CB&Q ORER’s listed 40 U.S. Army boxcars (24167, 24169-24182, 24184-24186, 24190-29195, 24197-24210) as operated under lease by the CB&Q. They were 37’ 9” outside length, inside
The 1947 and 1948 CB&Q ORER’s listed 40 U.S. Army boxcars (24167, 24169-24182, 24184-24186, 24190-29195, 24197-24210) as operated under lease by the CB&Q. They were 37’ 9” outside length, inside
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Rupert Gamlen
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#187891
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
Bruce Smith is spot on about USAX (later DODX six-axle flat cars). They were manufactured in 1953 to handle the Patton family of tanks, which were considerably heavier than their predecessors.
Prior
Bruce Smith is spot on about USAX (later DODX six-axle flat cars). They were manufactured in 1953 to handle the Patton family of tanks, which were considerably heavier than their predecessors.
Prior
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Dave Owens
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#187890
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
I now believe you are correct. Early howitzers were often smooth bore, and fell somewhere between “guns” (rifled) and mortars (smoothbore). By WWII even the howitzers were rifled.
Dan
I now believe you are correct. Early howitzers were often smooth bore, and fell somewhere between “guns” (rifled) and mortars (smoothbore). By WWII even the howitzers were rifled.
Dan
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Daniel A. Mitchell
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#187889
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
The Army bought 6300 M59 APCs between 1954 and 1959, they would appear in our time frame. The only model of them I am aware of is a 3d printed one at $18.00 each IIRC.
One of my
The Army bought 6300 M59 APCs between 1954 and 1959, they would appear in our time frame. The only model of them I am aware of is a 3d printed one at $18.00 each IIRC.
One of my
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Jeffrey White
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#187888
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
It is my impression that the barrel of the M115 (8" howitzer) is not a smooth bore, but rifled.
From TM 9-1300-203, page 2-143:
"The projectile [8-Inch: HE, M106] consists of...and a gilding metal
It is my impression that the barrel of the M115 (8" howitzer) is not a smooth bore, but rifled.
From TM 9-1300-203, page 2-143:
"The projectile [8-Inch: HE, M106] consists of...and a gilding metal
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spsalso
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#187887
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
The M75 was not an artillery tractor or truck, as we’ve been discussing. It was an armored personnel carrier, and it was developed very late in the Korean war. Only a small number saw service in the
The M75 was not an artillery tractor or truck, as we’ve been discussing. It was an armored personnel carrier, and it was developed very late in the Korean war. Only a small number saw service in the
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Daniel A. Mitchell
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#187886
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
No M-47 tanks in Korea. The M-47 was a crash program to put a better turret on the M46 Patton tanks following obvious shortcommings found in the Korean conflict. The M-47 was strictly post-war.
Korea
No M-47 tanks in Korea. The M-47 was a crash program to put a better turret on the M46 Patton tanks following obvious shortcommings found in the Korean conflict. The M-47 was strictly post-war.
Korea
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Daniel A. Mitchell
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#187885
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Re: Late 40's to mid 50's military rail movements
You forget the M75 APC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M75_armored_personnel_carrier
Thanks!
Brian Ehni
(Sent from my iPhone)
You forget the M75 APC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M75_armored_personnel_carrier
Thanks!
Brian Ehni
(Sent from my iPhone)
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BRIAN PAUL EHNI
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#187884
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