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Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

Richard’s view was that the SFRD color was pretty consistent from about 1930 through the late 1950s. His starting point was Scalecoat, 4 parts Reefer Orange and one part Reefer Yellow, a formula

By Tony Thompson · #193565 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

Thanks for the photos of Richard’s models Tony. I don’t have a memory of Richard sharing a lot of photos on email lists like this; my recollection was about the help he provided with model and

By Robert kirkham · #193564 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

Thanks Tony, and I apologise for coming in late on this but do you know what color Richard used for the Santa Fe reefers? I have huge respect for his modeling and would love to know his choice of

By O Fenton Wells · #193563 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

For completeness, I should mention that the bulk of Richard’s SFRD models were pretty dirty, not like the one I just showed. Below is a more typical example of his view of SFRD appearance. Here

By Tony Thompson · #193562 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

Attached is a photo of one of Richard’s cars, and it certainly isn’t Harvest Yellow — at least, not the jar I have of that color. Tony Thompson tony@...

By Tony Thompson · #193561 ·

Re: Thoughts on PFE Orange

Jerry Michels wrote: As a general statement about modeling, Jerry, I am in full agreement. But for PFE, since they washed cars frequently, I think the statement needs adjustment. Starting with the

By Tony Thompson · #193560 ·

Re: Reefers in Mid WWII film footage

Rob, The lettering pattern of the reefer at 6:49 indicates it was an FGEX or WFEX reefer. Todd Sullivan

By Todd Sullivan · #193559 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

I forgot to add -- The models are the same color. The difference is lighting. On 6/27/2022 12:22 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote: -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts

By Tim O'Connor · #193557 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

very nice models - like that weathering. Filthy! Rob

By Robert kirkham · #193556 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

Keith Jordan recommended Accupaint MEC Harvest Yellow for SFRD and I really like the color - close to what Intermountain/Longs put on the SFRD plastic kits for cars a year

By Tim O'Connor · #193555 ·

Re: Westerfield USRA SS Ann Arbor boxcar

I really don’t know, but the resemblance in style makes that a reasonable hypothesis. Rob

By Robert kirkham · #193554 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

I’ve been told that SFRD reefer paint was toward the yellow side early and on the orange side later. I’m interested in their appearance circa 1950, where fewer color photos are available.

By Nelson Moyer · #193553 ·

Re: PFE VS SANTA FE ORANGE

Very late in their careers, some of the Santa Fe's ice bunker reefers were painted the same orange usually associated with their later mechanical reefers. Here is a Chard Walker photo. Somewhere in my

By Bob Chaparro · #193552 ·

Re: Photo: Railroad Yards - Minneapolis, Minnesota (1939)

Soo Line on the left, CStPM&O on the right. On 6/21/2022 12:54 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote: -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts

By Tim O'Connor · #193551 ·

Re: Westerfield USRA SS Ann Arbor boxcar

did this lettering change come at the behest of the Wabash ? On 6/21/2022 11:13 AM, Robert kirkham wrote: -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts

By Tim O'Connor · #193550 ·

Re: Thoughts on PFE Orange

Well said Bill. Unless there is a reason to reproduce a fleet of freight cars, reefers included, in their as-delivered scheme, the base color is not terribly important. A spectrum of color

By Jerry Michels · #193549 ·

Thoughts on PFE Orange

Having been a lifelong Southern Pacific modeler I have witnessed many incarnations of PFE models. Early Silver Streak kits had prepainted sides. I don't recall anyone questioning the color. Varuous

By WILLIAM PARDIE · #193548 ·

Re: PFE 1940s - Youtube video creator/era/date?

It turns out that my comment about the returning soldier not likely helping with the dating of the video may have been misplaced. In a private email, it was suggested that the auto shown might be a

By Robert kirkham · #193547 ·

Re: New member checking in

On a friend's layout, the focal point was the harbor at Frankfort/Elberta Michigan and car ferry dock/yard there. He visited there on his sailboat every summer. He knew little of the railroad beyond

By Craig Wilson · #193546 ·

Re: Vallejo Paint Equivalent For PFE Orange (more)

Nelson Moyer wrote: I never heard that from him, but will emphasize that he had an excellent eye for color, often effortlessly matching paint on pre-painted models. I watched him do it a couple of

By Tony Thompson · #193545 ·

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