Those end running boards were only required on cars with metal roofs. This was required from the earliest time metal roofs were implemented. Look closely at the cars without the end running boards.

Scott Haycock wrote: “In the 1943 photo by Jack Delano that has been under discussion lately, I notice several cars without laterals. When, if ever, were laterals

Charlie Another superb job despite all the problems. Paul Doggett

Folks, In the 1943 photo by Jack Delano that has been under discussion lately, I notice several cars without laterals. When, if ever, were laterals mandated? Thanks, Scott Haycock

Greetings, Ihave a number of Brunchline’s Blueprint Series without truck assemblies (wheels,frames and hardware) also some without weights. These were robbed for lessor complicated models. Other

Ever have one of those models that’s going together and then it’s ‘snake bit’ during the last few steps? This poor model did; first I was drilling holes for the eye bolts for the couple pin

General American Type 17.  The body bolster matches GATC, and a PTC or STC tank would almost always have the safety valves on opposite sides of the manway. Not definitive, but the lettering style

Some images of car details of the Alton 17,000 series. Pantagraph Digital Archives from 1946. Good siding, trucks, stirrup and stencil

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Anyone recognize the builder of that KINX tank car ? Is it a Pennsylvania Tank Car, or perhaps a Standard Tank Car ? On 9/17/2022 9:21 PM, David via groups.io wrote:

If that photo really is from 1930, I wonder if the large number of SP (and T&NO) box cars seen together (without foreign cars) were in storage due to the economic circumstances

Many thanks David. good info and the photo is a big help Fenton -- Fenton Wells 250 Frye Rd Pinehurst NC 28374 910-420-8106 srrfan1401@...

Boy, Ray thanks so much for the Info. I noticed in one of Ted Cullottas books on the double sheathed the SP, UP and the C&A were mentioned as Harriman roads show similar boxcars but not with the

Excellent and very useful post. Thank you, Lester.

Actually, I think that these cars were rebuilt in two groups: one with flat roofs and Murphy ends, and a second with radials and Dreadnaughts. That makes sense, as a road as cash strapped as the Alton

Ajax. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 06:55:33 PM CDT, Todd Sullivan via groups.io

The cars were retired by the 1954 K brake ban. None were ever repainted to GM&O, and none ever got Youngstown doors (remember: the Alton was a POOR railroad, and kept things basic) Ray Breyer Elgin,

Remember that the ORERs are a GUIDE, and not always the best one, since it relied on railroads self-reporting. In the case of the C&As 17000s, they actually LOST a quarter inch between 1915 and 1950.

I expect that few or none of these cars were repainted/relettered for GM&O. The Alton series was almost entirely retired/scrapped in the late 1940s. There are a few photos showing these cars in their

Ed, thank you so much for your excellent response. I’m getting the picture now that by 1953 there weren’t many of these cars left. But they were wood cars with radial roofs and some kind of