Anthony Thompson wrote: Its probably appropriate to review the time lines which this thread has developed. 1) August 1931 ORER - Pure Oil owned 2,587 "TMI" Tank Cars using the reporting marks

Yes, barring any other evidence, I'm going to assume that the cars weren't ever painted with SOO markings... at least during the 1950s. Thank you again for the information! Before I leave this

Tichy offers non-operating wheel sets for carrying on a wheel car, or for other "scenery" uses-- not compromised by having to be functional in HO scale. So if one wanted to have some typical

Mike Aufderheide wrote: Andy Sperandeo has answered the basic question already. The "standard ice hatch," before the days of one-piece steel hatches, was really two parts: the plug, which

Tim Gilbert replied: Pure's first big field was the Cabin Creek field, and the refinery there was built very early. There is a good aerial view of it in the Union 76 history book. And BTW, it

Hi Gang, This is from my friend who works for the railroad as a dispatcher! So now from the horses mouth here it is! Ray

In addition to all the other replies strongly suggesting that the slope sheets ARE wood, I seem to recall a set of views of one at the builder's (could it have been in MM?), where they were clearly

Elden Gatwood wrote: What do you think the story was on 13558 having grabs and 13567 having a ladder? Did they change during a production run, or was this some retrofitting measure? I think the

Larry K., Larry G., and all interested; I am sure that some of us did not know of the existence of non-Greenville type gons on the P&LE, at least as of the 50's. What do you think the story was on

Elden, I can send you copies of the photos (and other PLE gon photos I have) if you send me your address off-list. We did only the paint schemes you mentioned in PLE. Larry "Gatwood, Elden"

Elden, Larry and list, I had not noticed that some of these gons had grabs rather than ladders before this thread started. In addition to the photos that Larry Grubb mentioned, I have two additional

Jeff Carson wrote: Among Pure's domestic oil and gas wells in 1958 were those around Cabin Creek. Pure had substantial interests in pipelines; so I assume that whatever crude was hauled from Cabin

neat<VBG>. Jon, My thoughts exactly!!!! Oh well. Thanks for the education Andy. Mike Aufderheide Modeling the Monon 1947-8 Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the

and Pure Oil also had a refinery at Dawes, WV, on the C&O's Cabin Creek Sub. I have been told that it shut down circa 1954, but the structures were still in place for some time after. Several of

Larry; Are those photos of 13116 and 41500 commercially available? I have never seen one equipped with grabs, and that opens up an interesting question; why the change? Are there any special

Thank you, Larry! You are the best! Elden Gatwood

however.< Concerned with my era Richard H. says they were all gone by 1941. In one of my books however there is a picture of one and the picture is dated '41. So either the date on the picture

Hi Mike, The ventilators were louvered hoods hinged over the ice bunker openings - they had to be swung out of the way for icing. For refrigerator service, a hinged plug inside the ventilator sealed

Andy and all: Could you give me a few line synopsis of how the Bohn ventilators worked? Were they in place of standard ice hatches. Did they function as ice hatches and ventilators? Thanks, Mike

Thanks for the photos! The second one is very informative for other reasons too. This must be one of the 1939/40 series cars with the wider, full length ribs. Going back to the previous string