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car ownership proportions
a prototypically plausible freight car fleet is a lot more complicated
than model railroaders have generally recognized (or than many model
railroaders want to admit).
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I don’t
a prototypically plausible freight car fleet is a lot more complicated
than model railroaders have generally recognized (or than many model
railroaders want to admit).
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I don’t
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Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
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#58535
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car ownership
Jerry,
The point you are missing is that before you can load a home road car,
you have to HAVE a home road car, and that means it has to be paid
for. On the other hand, you can haul the traffic
Jerry,
The point you are missing is that before you can load a home road car,
you have to HAVE a home road car, and that means it has to be paid
for. On the other hand, you can haul the traffic
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Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
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#58533
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Re: Were all Dreadnaught ends made by Standard Railway Equipment?
The Standard Railway Equipment Co. owned the patents for all of the "Dreadnaught" (their tradename) designs, and as far as I know they did not license the design to other railway equipment makers or
The Standard Railway Equipment Co. owned the patents for all of the "Dreadnaught" (their tradename) designs, and as far as I know they did not license the design to other railway equipment makers or
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Richard Hendrickson
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#58523
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
No. 4/4 Dreadnaught on most cars, though some exceptions included 4-5 and 7-8 corrugated.
No; 4/5 Dreadnaught.
10-0 IH cars had 4/5 ends; almost all 10-4 and higher cars had 5/5 ends. Lower panels
No. 4/4 Dreadnaught on most cars, though some exceptions included 4-5 and 7-8 corrugated.
No; 4/5 Dreadnaught.
10-0 IH cars had 4/5 ends; almost all 10-4 and higher cars had 5/5 ends. Lower panels
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Richard Hendrickson
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#58522
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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#58521
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Were all Dreadnaught ends made by Standard Railway Equipment?
RPC 13 shows the unique 5/5 Dreadnaught ends used on MILW ribbed-side cars. From the text describing the production of the cars in the MILW shops - "The cars' [ends] were formed in two halves. . ."
RPC 13 shows the unique 5/5 Dreadnaught ends used on MILW ribbed-side cars. From the text describing the production of the cars in the MILW shops - "The cars' [ends] were formed in two halves. . ."
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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#58520
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
Dave, the problem here is that diagonal panel roofs were introduced ca. 1948 and many of what we're in the habit of calling 1944 AAR box cars, i.e. those with 4-4 "rolling pin taper" Improved
Dave, the problem here is that diagonal panel roofs were introduced ca. 1948 and many of what we're in the habit of calling 1944 AAR box cars, i.e. those with 4-4 "rolling pin taper" Improved
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Richard Hendrickson
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#58519
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
Thanks Richard
Well, that's my fault. I didn't include the 1932 series because I thought they were ARA not AAR.
OK, another factor.
So then, if I'm sorting this out correctly for 40-6 IL cars, the
Thanks Richard
Well, that's my fault. I didn't include the 1932 series because I thought they were ARA not AAR.
OK, another factor.
So then, if I'm sorting this out correctly for 40-6 IL cars, the
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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#58517
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
that
I tend to agree. The ends changed to the new pattern "Improved
Dreadnaught end" in 1944, but the roof remained the rectangular panel
design that had been in use since the thirties. About 1948,
that
I tend to agree. The ends changed to the new pattern "Improved
Dreadnaught end" in 1944, but the roof remained the rectangular panel
design that had been in use since the thirties. About 1948,
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Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
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#58515
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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#58516
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
Richard Hendrickson wrote:
I'll admit to not thinking too much about many post WWII cars as my
interests fade before 1951... but in my ignorance of 1950-1960 car
appearances I always thought of the
Richard Hendrickson wrote:
I'll admit to not thinking too much about many post WWII cars as my
interests fade before 1951... but in my ignorance of 1950-1960 car
appearances I always thought of the
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Dave Nelson <muskoka@...>
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#58514
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
Kurt Laughlin wrote:
This isn't a simple question, Kurt, and I don't think you can answer it with dimensions alone. Various buyers chose their own interior height, in particular, and so cars
Kurt Laughlin wrote:
This isn't a simple question, Kurt, and I don't think you can answer it with dimensions alone. Various buyers chose their own interior height, in particular, and so cars
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
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#58513
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Re: Athearn C&EI Caboose
The old MDC car is a composite prototype. Either Athearn or MDC tooled a new, more eastern-looking cupola to replace the AT&SF/Rock Island style one previously used on the car, but it still is a
The old MDC car is a composite prototype. Either Athearn or MDC tooled a new, more eastern-looking cupola to replace the AT&SF/Rock Island style one previously used on the car, but it still is a
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Charlie Vlk
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#58518
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Re: What defines an AAR boxcar?
Kurt, your analysis is essentially correct, though there were actually five main variations: 1932, 1937, 1937 modified, 1944, and postwar. the 1932 cars were 9'4" high inside, the 1937 versions were
Kurt, your analysis is essentially correct, though there were actually five main variations: 1932, 1937, 1937 modified, 1944, and postwar. the 1932 cars were 9'4" high inside, the 1937 versions were
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Richard Hendrickson
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#58512
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Re: Car movements
Frank Greene wrote:
How could it be otherwise? unless I misunderstand Frank's question.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705
Frank Greene wrote:
How could it be otherwise? unless I misunderstand Frank's question.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705
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Tony Thompson
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#58511
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Re: Car movements
Posted by: "Russell Strodtz" Malcom,
I beg to differ. In the case of an intermediate switch road they were
getting very little revenue from the movement of a "Road to Road" car.
Their profit may
Posted by: "Russell Strodtz" Malcom,
I beg to differ. In the case of an intermediate switch road they were
getting very little revenue from the movement of a "Road to Road" car.
Their profit may
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Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
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#58532
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Re: Car movements
Mal,
In my college days at MIT I witnessed the midnight madness on the Grand Junction every night as long strings of cars were moved from the NYC yards in Brighton to the B&M in Charlestown and
Mal,
In my college days at MIT I witnessed the midnight madness on the Grand Junction every night as long strings of cars were moved from the NYC yards in Brighton to the B&M in Charlestown and
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Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
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#58534
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What defines an AAR boxcar?
Hi:
In the last few days I've gotten some back issues of the RPC and taken a good look at some of the files here and on the Steam Freight Cars site, all of which has left me a little confused about
Hi:
In the last few days I've gotten some back issues of the RPC and taken a good look at some of the files here and on the Steam Freight Cars site, all of which has left me a little confused about
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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#58510
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Numbers of Freight Cars & Types in Pgh Area Yards (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Hi all;
In continuing this line of discussion (and because I was asked), I did a
detailed look at several yard shots taken at Pittsburgh-area yards in
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Hi all;
In continuing this line of discussion (and because I was asked), I did a
detailed look at several yard shots taken at Pittsburgh-area yards in
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD <Elden.J.Gatwood@...>
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#58508
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Re: PE and CGW cars
Jerry Dziedzic wrote:
"With so much interest in the topic, I wonder about making it a
subject for discussion at one of the Prototype Modeler's meets. I'd
enjoy having everyone in the same room and
Jerry Dziedzic wrote:
"With so much interest in the topic, I wonder about making it a
subject for discussion at one of the Prototype Modeler's meets. I'd
enjoy having everyone in the same room and
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benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
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#58507
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