I think that's a relatively safe inference. Richard Hendrickson

Hey guys I was there. A clerk on The UN PAC at Salina Ks and Topeka Ks from 1948 to July 1951. I would come on duty at 12:01 AM and look at the spike. All the agents with grain elevators in there

Hi Folks Many thanks to all of the people who helped identify the "granger railroads"! My motivation for seeking this clarification was to examine the proportion of its fleet that was double

I've have worked at a Naval Ordnance Station, although not on any thing quite as impressive as the 16 inchers. A lot of the stuff we shipped and recieved was protected by either a yellowish

To toss a match into the gas tank,why then did the Canadian roads rely on single sheathed car for their grain traffic? Armand Premo

The CB&Q was allocated 500 DS box cars in 1918 although it had completely moved away from DS when it built its first SS box and automobile cars in 1913. The AC&F- built DS cars, numbered

I believe the late David P. Morgan, editor of TRAINS magazine in the 1940s-1970s, coined the term "granger railroad," but I have no hard evidence to support that statement. Anybody else know? Bob

Andy Sperandeo wrote: Wow! That's going to make it easier to list the NON-granger railroads <g>. Obviously a whole bunch of transcontinentals became grangers in this definition, as well as

"Webster's Third New International Dictionary," in general an excellent reference on railroad-related terms, says simply that "granger" in our context means "a grain-carrying railroad." That's

Posted by: "Thomas Baker" In interviews I have had with the operators of grain elevators on the old Chicago Great Western in Minnesota, I walked away with the impression that the grain elevators

Richard, Thanks much. There were (probably still are) several large bulk wineries on the Tidewater Southern (now UP). So I based on what you say, Chateau Martin wine cars might have been regular

wrote: Richard, I, for one, believe your original premise, that the USRA intentionally allocated DS cars to roads with a lot to grain traffic (how's that for doing an end run around the "Granger

Richard Hendrickson wrote: Any agent I ever talked from the pre-1960 period was entirely familiar with ORERs and worked with them daily. I asked one if he saved any copies, and he said he was

I'm not aware that CM owned a winery in Tidewater Southern territory, but it wouldn't have mattered. CM bought cheap wines in bulk wherever they could get them, shipped them east, and bottled them

The .ppt file is a MicroSoft PowerPoint file. If you don't have the Powerpoint program on your computer you can download a free Powerpoint viewer from the Microsoft web site. The .pdf (portable

I'n not sure what RRs or time periods Russ is generalizing (over-generalizing?) about here, but in the late 1940s and early 1950s, when I spent a lot of time hanging around the Santa Fe and Southern

Any criteria which render RRs like the Santa Fe, Great Northern, and Northern Pacific non-granger RRs are obviously false and misleading. All three railroads handled vast amounts of agricultural

Good grief! I leave home for a couple of days and my observation that granger railroads preferred double sheathed to single sheathed USRA box cars prompted a largely irrelevant discussion of car

Ted wrote: SSW a.k.a. the Cotton Belt had most of its territory in Southeast Missouri, Arkansas and Texas. IIRC the main agricultural products were rice, beans, milo, and of course cotton. Somehow I

Hi Larry, You have raised an interesting classification. I would think MSTL is a clear granger running in Iowa, Minn and northern Ill. You kicked out SSW, which is OK; but then I would think KCS