Brian, the print isn't dated, and there are no visible reweigh or repacking dates on the car, but there's a wood sheathed Santa Fe reefer in the background which had recently been repaired and

Richard, is there a date when Will took the photo? Brian Leppert Carson City, NV

I understand that Richard. I was responding to his thought that asphalt would not be shipped far, but wherever it is used, it has to be shipped from a refinery. CJ

True, but Western Asphalt was in Santa Maria, CA and Ned models somewhere in the wilderness east of the Mississippi, where there was no chance that a California Despatch Line tank car assigned to

Could be an insulated ICC 103. I think many insulated tank cars were 103's, not 104's. The ICC specifications require that 104's be insulated, but it does not say 103's must be non-insulated. In fact,

Bruce Smith wrote: Definitely an ICC 104. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538;

And how is it that I end up owing Richard and Tony a beer, EVERY year? <G> Regards Bruce Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2 "Some days you are the bug,

Ned, Just to be clear, I think the Overland car is not an ICC 105. Regards Bruce Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2 "Some days you are the bug, some

Richard wrote: Bruce, you owe me and Tony a beer at Naperville. Richard Hendrickson   Please no fire alarm this year, that sucked!   Brian Carlson

<I would bid myself but I am not sure asphalt would travel across the country.> I think you will find that "asphalt" as applied to a road is locally manufactured and shipped by truck. Liquid

Joe, any inquiry about GATC tank cars opens up a huge can of worms. However, Tony is absolutely correct that the designation for wine cars, cotton oil cars, etc. was AAR 203, not ICC 203, since

Highly unlikely, Ned. But that model, including the lettering, is dead-on accurate, as it was developed from a Will Whittaker photo in my collection, so it's an attractive offering to anyone who

Not enough to make much of a difference, Ian. The CGTX fleet consisted of 1243 cars in 7/43 and 2472 in 1/53, and some of those additional cars were new. The GATC fleet in 1/53 was 45,632, by

perhaps a Sunshine frame to make the ICC 105 car. There is an Overland Insulated GATX car on E-bay right now.

Tony Thompson wrote: "There was an outstanding article in _Mainline Modeler_ back in October 1985 by Mark Feddersen on such a conversion, though his goal was an ICC 104. He did shorten and redetail

Bruce Smith wrote: There was an outstanding article in _Mainline Modeler_ back in October 1985 by Mark Feddersen on such a conversion, though his goal was an ICC 104. He did shorten and

Tony -   OK, thanks.  I hope that you and Richard remain on good terms (and I hope I didn't open up a can of worms here)?   Joe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bruce Smith wrote: I sure wish Richard hadn't made that mis-statement--now it's getting repeated. There in fact is NOT any such thing as an ICC 203. The 203 designation is for ARA and AAR cars

I looked at one of mine, and it took me awhile before I realized it was an Atlas model. I also have realized it has the as-built 1937 paint scheme, and I know about the Speedwitch decal, and thanks

GATC was also a partner (with Canadian Car & Foundry) in Canadian General Transit, formed in 1932. In the post-WW II years, a good number of these older GATC cars apparently found their way to the