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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
I thought the Southern Pacific burned Bunker C in steam locomotives.
It did have to be warmed up to make it flow.
And then there was that oil-rock in Utah that moved in hopper cars...
I forget now
I thought the Southern Pacific burned Bunker C in steam locomotives.
It did have to be warmed up to make it flow.
And then there was that oil-rock in Utah that moved in hopper cars...
I forget now
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Wasn't "natural gasoline" a volatile product that at one point was separated at
the well head ? Sunshine made a Warren tank car model that carried it. I wonder
why they don't just remove the volatiles
Wasn't "natural gasoline" a volatile product that at one point was separated at
the well head ? Sunshine made a Warren tank car model that carried it. I wonder
why they don't just remove the volatiles
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Jon Miller wrote:
"Going with an old brain I seem to remember [Bunker C] had no other use until plastic's came along."
Not true. Bunker C (the Navy called it "Navy Special Fuel Oil") was a common
Jon Miller wrote:
"Going with an old brain I seem to remember [Bunker C] had no other use until plastic's came along."
Not true. Bunker C (the Navy called it "Navy Special Fuel Oil") was a common
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Benjamin Hom
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Jim Betz writes:
"I'm having trouble locating pics of the tank cars in crude oil service on
the web. Any links/suggestions would be appreciated. Or if there is a book
I need to buy ..."
"As soon
Jim Betz writes:
"I'm having trouble locating pics of the tank cars in crude oil service on
the web. Any links/suggestions would be appreciated. Or if there is a book
I need to buy ..."
"As soon
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Mikebrock
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Going with an old brain I seem to remember it had no other use until plastic's came along.
I have one word for you Ben, plastic!
-- Jon MillerFor me time stopped in
Going with an old brain I seem to remember it had no other use until plastic's came along.
I have one word for you Ben, plastic!
-- Jon MillerFor me time stopped in
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jon miller <atsfus@...>
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Going with an old brain I seem to remember it had no other use until plastic's came along.
I have one word for you Ben, plastic!
-- Jon MillerFor me time stopped in
Going with an old brain I seem to remember it had no other use until plastic's came along.
I have one word for you Ben, plastic!
-- Jon MillerFor me time stopped in
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jon miller <atsfus@...>
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Jim your question asks about the transition ere. I think Tony has been pretty clear that by then crude tended to move in pipelines. But in the early years, before pipelines were build, crude did move
Jim your question asks about the transition ere. I think Tony has been pretty clear that by then crude tended to move in pipelines. But in the early years, before pipelines were build, crude did move
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Douglas Harding
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
---In STMFC@..., <b.hom@...> wrote :
Not so fast, my friend. Bunker C is NOT crude oil. It's referred to a residual fuel as it's what's left after the more volatile cuts of crude have been boiled
---In STMFC@..., <b.hom@...> wrote :
Not so fast, my friend. Bunker C is NOT crude oil. It's referred to a residual fuel as it's what's left after the more volatile cuts of crude have been boiled
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destorzek@...
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Jim Betz wrote:
"There are some uses of crude that a pipeline can not be justified for - such as many industrial steam boilers for heating large buildings. Yes, diesel was replacing those in the
Jim Betz wrote:
"There are some uses of crude that a pipeline can not be justified for - such as many industrial steam boilers for heating large buildings. Yes, diesel was replacing those in the
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Benjamin Hom
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Tony and all,
� Points noted.� Thanks.
� My research shows that tank cars in crude service were primarily
"generic" such as UTLX and GATX cars -
Tony and all,
� Points noted.� Thanks.
� My research shows that tank cars in crude service were primarily
"generic" such as UTLX and GATX cars -
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Jim Betz
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Re: chlorine weathering (was Penn Salt tank cars)
Carl
How quickly people seem to have forgotten the lax environmental controls of
the steam era. I grew up in New Jersey where paint on automobiles would blister
and peel away simply when the cars
Carl
How quickly people seem to have forgotten the lax environmental controls of
the steam era. I grew up in New Jersey where paint on automobiles would blister
and peel away simply when the cars
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
As soon as any oil field is very productive, pipelines were built to transport crude to refineries, a far cheaper means of transportation. In the transition era, there was little crude oil moving by
As soon as any oil field is very productive, pipelines were built to transport crude to refineries, a far cheaper means of transportation. In the transition era, there was little crude oil moving by
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Tony Thompson
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Tank Cars to/from oil fields in the transition era
Hi,
I'm having trouble locating pics of the tank cars in crude oil service
on the web. Any links/suggestions would be appreciated. Or if there
is a book I need to buy
Hi,
I'm having trouble locating pics of the tank cars in crude oil service
on the web. Any links/suggestions would be appreciated. Or if there
is a book I need to buy
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Jim Betz
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Re: chlorine weathering (was Penn Salt tank cars)
Not really. The chlorine would dissipate.
In contact with water, chlorine gas would disproportionate to give a mixture of hydrochloric acid and
hypochlorus acid (HCl and HClO). (Add alkalai and you
Not really. The chlorine would dissipate.
In contact with water, chlorine gas would disproportionate to give a mixture of hydrochloric acid and
hypochlorus acid (HCl and HClO). (Add alkalai and you
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Carl Gustafson
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Re: chlorine weathering (was Penn Salt tank cars)
Chlorine gas (Cl2) in completely dry air is not very reactive, and not corrosive in and of itself. But, Cl2 is moderately soluble in water, where it readily disproportionates into equal quantities of
Chlorine gas (Cl2) in completely dry air is not very reactive, and not corrosive in and of itself. But, Cl2 is moderately soluble in water, where it readily disproportionates into equal quantities of
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Dave Parker
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Re: chlorine weathering (was Penn Salt tank cars)
But escaping chlorine would exacerbate the rusting, wouldn¹t it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKqiWqpjlUQ
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
From: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List
But escaping chlorine would exacerbate the rusting, wouldn¹t it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKqiWqpjlUQ
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
From: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List
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BRIAN PAUL EHNI
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Re: chlorine weathering (was Penn Salt tank cars)
I have almost 50 scans of chlorine tank cars on my hard drive, and a number
of them show various levels of RUST (corrosion) around the valve casings and
from rust that drips down from the top
I have almost 50 scans of chlorine tank cars on my hard drive, and a number
of them show various levels of RUST (corrosion) around the valve casings and
from rust that drips down from the top
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Tim O'Connor
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Re: Penn Salt tank cars (TRIX) comments & questions
And if it leaks out, it's a gas and disperses into the air, rather than draining down the car side.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA
And if it leaks out, it's a gas and disperses into the air, rather than draining down the car side.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA
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Tony Thompson
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Re: Penn Salt tank cars (TRIX) comments & questions
Hi Richard,
I think you’re asking about weathering effects on the OUTSIDE of the car. Because chlorine is so dangerous, I would expect that any leakage would be dealt with
Hi Richard,
I think you’re asking about weathering effects on the OUTSIDE of the car. Because chlorine is so dangerous, I would expect that any leakage would be dealt with
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Aley, Jeff A
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Re: Penn Salt tank cars (TRIX) comments & questions
Well, residual chlorine gas. You won't get that out unless you purge the tank with an inert (and
dry) gas very thoroughly.
Carl Gustafson
Well, residual chlorine gas. You won't get that out unless you purge the tank with an inert (and
dry) gas very thoroughly.
Carl Gustafson
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Carl Gustafson
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