Tim O'Connor wrote: Sure, but 1965 is well off the end of this list. Let's stick to 1960. In that year, there were 901 wood chip cars, only 327 of them the new all-steel, higher capacity cars of

"Bought for the beet traffic"? Whatever. The 1965 ORER lists the following 41'6" composite GS gondolasequipped as 1,637 cars with side extensions in sugar beet service 975 cars with side

Tim O'Connor wrote: Assuming we are still talking about SP here, I believe Tim is entirely wrong. The composite cars were not "surplus," they were bought for the beet traffic, and immediately

Good morning Arved, The Great Flood of 1951. I remember it well. OK… as well as a five year old can. My Dad spent three days away from our house fighting the flood. One of those days was my

Although I have not seen many photos I imagine that practically all types of GS gondolas were used for sugar beets before the side-extended cars came into use. I do have a picture of a UP GS gondola

Arved, You would probably like to see some pictures then: <http://www.kchistory.org/cdm4/browse.php?CISOROOT=/1951> Bill Hirt

Tim, Roseville Illinois was originally on a branch from Monmouth Illinois (on the Q mainline from Galesburg to Burlington) to Bushnell Illinois (on the main from Galesburg to Quincy

I wonder if stockcars from off-line roads ending up in unusual places wasall that uncommon. I have 63 conductor's records of stockcarsfrom the last year and a half of the Missouri Pacific's small,

The "Great Flood of 1951?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1951 I hadn't heard of it before. Thanks for getting me to look it up. Learned something today. Arved

Bill, any idea of the routing? Roseville is 60 miles from Peoria, where's the NYC (Peoria & Eastern) could have received the cars. I can't imagine any other route that could have gotten them to

I think many of the sightings of off-road stock cars are due to short term lending, or Car Service Directives, where cars went from areas where they were surplus to areas where there was a "seasonal

Yes. I know. I read too much into what you said, which I regret and apologize for. Arved Grass Arved_Grass@... or Arved@... Fleming Island,

Wheel have been sold pending payment, thanks Rob McLear

San Marcos was on the MP and MKT in central Texas. Western Pacific to Salt Lake City. Rio Grande to Pueblo Colo & Southen to Amarillo Ft. Worth and Denver to Ft.Worth Katy to San Marcos?

Friends, This discussion sent me to my WP resources to see what I could find on livestock shipments on one of my favorite roads. Not much, I'm afraid. In Jim Eager's WESTERN

Consider that a whole lot of stock shipments were made to public stockyards – Salt Lake City for example – where only some of the animals were purchased and moved to adjacent slaughterhouses.

Arved, Selling "production machinery" isn't the same as selling molds, as the molds can be "jobbed out" (run elsewhere under contract.) Dennis

Bruce, According to Steve Holding's presentation, these movements to Tobin Packing were routine from the west central Illinois area. Steve grew up on a hog farm and said part of his "job" was taking

Generally, there were big markets for livestock on both coasts. In steam-era northern New Jersey the Erie had the lion's share of stock cars rolling over it, but the PRR delivered quite a bit as well.

Bill, Great data. The only question I would have is whether this is strictly origination loading information and the stock might have been transferred to new cars at a junction stockyard or whether