That was intended for the passenger car list, but Paul was an active contributor to this list as well. RIP, friend. TM

Just received an email saying that Paul Lyons, valued PCL member and past president of the Southern Pacific Historical & Technical Society, passed away today. Paul received a liver transplant a year

My last employer used a linseed based material in one of their coatings and the color varied tremendously from batch to batch, i.e. the color of the liquid coating and also the color of the dried,

Folks, The Santa Fe Depot most used by Hollywood is Pasadena . Tom VanWormer Monument CO james wrote:

Actually Mike I'll risk your rath to point out one more thing about the two hoppers in the photo. It was suggested that the differing color might be due to the cars coming from different shops,

The picture is from the treasure trove of the Walter Frost collection and the second car is a pre WFEX Great Northern reefer. You need to double click the picture to enlarge it. Unfortunately the

I wonder if this was because of the tight clearances through the Hudson river tubes into the combined post office/Pennsylvania Station complex in Manhattan? I recently was discussing this with people

An X29 is very normal in the case of shipping magazines, storage mail, etc. to the west coast. One interesting tidbit I found in the official plans for handling the Christmas 1945 mail and express

Watched a 1935 film last night where a guy got off a Santa Fe passenger train at a station (presumably somewhere near Hollywood). When it pulled out, there was a Pennsy X29 on an adjoining track.....

Gentlemen, We can discuss for ever what is the correct color to paint a particular car. Lets get back to the real world. Look at a train and you will see all shades and colors of cars. When I

Good evening!       Would appreciate any clear images of this group of M&StL flatt cars.       Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Bob McCarthy [Non-text portions of

There is, of course, nothing out of scope about PRR covered hopper cars but it does seem that we have exhausted the discussion about this particular, rather odd slide. Therefore, this thread is now

Aren't we done yet??? Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail,

Schuyler.larrabee says: "WHITE shirt? Not so glowing as I see it. Lots of men in trades like this wear a white t shirt, a clean one every day. Not a big deal". So, you don't give credence to my

I get it, I know that color can shift from one photo to the next.   All I was saying is that both of those PRR cars are NOT painted the same color.   If anyone wants to argue that point then I want

Then you do get the point. The more you learn about photography and how light works on color, the more you will "see" in an image. Scott

Scott, I'm in 100% total agreement with you here. I'm not looking at this photo as a reference for painting covered hoppers. All I'm saying is that they weren't all snow white from start to finish as

Todd I'm not saying that at all. Clearly the car on the left is lighter. What I'm saying is that everything in the image is darker than it appears. you cannot use the colors you see in this image to

"Here’s the story: the two hoppers are painted different colors. Live with it." I agree 100%, if there's an argument to the contary then I want to hear it. Todd

Scott, are you saying that both the PRR cars are the same color in this photo listed here but due to lighting and the effects of the camera they show up differently than what my eyes are