Steve Lucas wrote: "Though the Accurail models are very nicely done, I'm thinking more of an accurate Illinois Central hopper car like the ones coloured in this

I always wondered if there was a problem with film in recording these cars since the lettering on boxcars in the background of the same photo can be distinguished even though it's not at all legible.

Though the Accurail models are very nicely done, I'm thinking more of an accurate Illinios Central hopper car like the ones coloured in this

Robert - If they are express reefers in passenger service, they might be painted dark green with Dulux Gold lettering. If so, the older black & white films may not have recorded the lettering. Some

The cars are DEFINITELY not the Soo Line cars since they both have the more arched roof like the General American cars. I don't have a scanner but I'll see what I can do to find one to use. Robert

Elden, Thanks. I would love to figure out the load/empties ratio to round out the traffic study. Randy Williamson www.prrfreight.com Quoting "Gatwood, Elden SAW" : Classification:

Richard Hendrickson wrote: This may well be true for Santa Fe, but for SP, no more than a third of its tank car fleet was in captive fuel service. It's worth adding that between Santa Fe, SP

Gatwood, Elden wrote: Remember that this depends on era. Your statement is very true after World War II and certainly in the 1950s, but much less so in earlier years. In the 1920s, for

Mike, One of the really cool things I hope to model on a WWII PRR layout - the stats I have seen suggest the PRR ran over 600 loaded tank cars over the summit at Gallitzen every day early in the war

Armand, In the '43 ORER I have totaled 152,872 tank cars so far - I haven't hit all the private car owners, but I have hit the major car owners, so I am probably within 1,000 to 5,000 of a full

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE All; Nice figures, Randy, and to which one might add, that assuming roughly 50% of the fleet of the PRR was offline at any one time, foreign cars filling

Armand, I was doing some quick calculations on a June, 1948 PRR freight traffic study and by my estimates there were 16,543 loaded tank cars on the PRR during the month. The were many different

You mean like this? http://www.accurail.com/accurail/ART/7700/7711.jpg Or this? http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/2400/2410.jpg Or this? http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/2500/2518.jpg Or

Yes, Armand. you are misreading the figures. 8531 was the number of tank cars owned by Class I railroads. Most tank cars were operated by private owners. At that time, both UTL and GATC owned

Armand Premo writes: I'm a bit late into this thread and I may be missing something but, if I'm reading it right, Armand's problem is that the 8531 total is for RR owned tank cars. Union Tank Car

Armand, I suspect that you are only seeing the railroad owned cars, not the huge fleets owned by private owners such as the leasing companies. Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL

Armand, Note that the data is "for freight cars owned by class I RR's in 1947". There were few tank cars owned by Class I RR's; most were privately-owned (as you

Elden,I am using the car totals as presented for 1947.If I have correctly read the information the national tank car total, as given ,was only some 8531 cars with which I am having some difficulty

While on the subject of "odd" hopper cars, any chance of an Illinois Central two-bay (or three-bay) hopper being brought out by Accurail?? (hint, hint...) So far there is lttle out there, other than

Precisely.This is exactly what I have been trying to raise as a point of discussion..Armand Premo