Nelson Those are very useful I have saved them as I have a Speedwitch SP A50-4 to build. Many thanks Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Congratulations Sam. I always enjoyed talking to you at the various meets. i hope that other Clark didn't scare you into an early retirement. Chet French Dixon, IL

There WERE geared handbrakes that employed a gearbox at the bottom of a vertical shaft/horizontal wheel arrangement.This was especially true in the late 20's and early 30's.Probably there people in

I edited the B end photo and the Pullman drawing in Photoshop to see more detail on the geared brake system, and the edited photos are attached. The drawing is indeed the same as the photo except for

Nelson, Those would be "beards" that you should be looking for in HO scale. I strongly suspect a voice translation caused this.

Speedwitch included an etched version of the geared brake staff in their Southern Pacific A-50-4 auto kit. I recall Bill Welch questioned this item (or at least the assembly) of this when he did his

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 07:42 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote: Since everyone is modeling the non-geared version, I wondered if they know something I didn’t, as either the cars weren’t built as drawn or

Thanks for referring the question to Frank. Looks like Ray’s almost B end photo is as good as we’re going to get. I’m pretty sure that 176399 doesn’t have a stemwinder, but then it’s

Thanks for the photos. I don’t trust the car diagrams because of the incorrect rendering of the ends. The photo of 176399 doesn’t look like a standard non-geared stemwinder to me. I see a

When I work on the B-end details, I insert and glue the wire for the vertical brake staff into a Tichy base. I use canopy glue to tack the assembly into place so I can position the other details. Once

Micro-Mark sells this box of watch gears that may be useful for a project like you were contemplating:

Precision Scale also has some brake parts with gears that I’ve cut around to use for brakes that aren’t commercially available, but the smaller of the two that are visible in the posted photo is

Tichy makes a brake step with a small gear and with some trimming and sanding one could isolate the gear from the rest although I don't know if it would be the correct size for this

I find Aleenes tacky glue lacks mechanical strength. I have tacked things with it then used a PVA adhesive for the joint.

We do have a builder's photo showing most of the B end of 176399. The "Jemco" wheel looks like a plain old stemwinder. The 164000-164999 series auto cars also got these hand brakes in 1927, so they

Thanks, Steve. Funny how I can read something several times as still miss little gems like ‘a beard take-up reel at the base of the vertical brake staff’. I hope Frank will provide the back story.

Congratulations Sam! I appreciate the years of excellent service you've given to the model railroad community and I will miss our conversations at train shows and meets. The person taking your place

Exactly. There never seemed to be much of a case for a plastic version of the car, but who knows maybe Rapido will do it in the future. -- *Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*

There is still the excellent Westerfield model in all its variations.

Sam, While I'm an N Scaler, I've appreciated your helpful posts, and will miss them . . . although I DO hope you stay somewhat active here. Thanks for your contributions, and all the best in your