Athearn should be congratulated for being forthright with the modelers. Other manufacturers should take note and follow Athearn's lead. Steven Seguine Orem, Utah -------------- Original message from

I realize that. The point I was trying to make in my poorly worded email was that "New Tooling" isn't really true anymore, these are just fantasy schemes on the ATSF Reefer. I do commend them for

List; The old B&O Akron Branch or the old CT&V were the ones that directly served the "blimp" hanger complex in Akron?? The track still is active and runs just west of the old hanger. The Wingfoot

When I first looked at the advertisement, the MILW car stood out and I thought -- Whoa! Did they tool the General American reefer? But no such luck. Anyway, I think that is the inspiration for the

I TRIED to make it obvious folks -- Athearn is TELLING you that the models are not prototypically correct. That was the news, as far as I was concerned. I don't think they've ever done that before.

Yes. That's the irony of it all - getting a very accurate ATSF model from Athearn in multiple slogans and car numbers, then watching them having to offer it in bogus schemes to help pay off their

In a message dated 6/13/2007 11:52:57 AM Central Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes: Aren't these just fantasy schemes on the ATSF Reefer? Obviously, this is what Tim was alluding to and

I have (and even have built!) a Sunshine L&N rebuilt boxcar. It is at home right now, so I don't have in front of me, but I remember the ends being "unusual" - and I think they were indented. The

Nope, Peoria and Eastern did not go to Streator. That was NYC (West) to a connection with the CB&Q at Zearing IL. That line was built by the Chicago Indiana & Southern. Russ

Nemo, Illinois was the crossing and interchange point between the ATSF main line with the old Minneapolis & St. Louis main line from Iowa to Peoria. Some years after the merger with the Chicago and

Ray, Hate to surprise you like this but the CB&Q had a very active interchange with both the CRI&P and the AT&SF at Kansas City. This included Westbound Forwarder Freight and Auto Parts and Eastbound

Tim, I'm not either. It should be around MP 188 to MP 189 between Cameron and Ormonde. BNSF does show outdated station locations on it's track charts but not that one. Strange. Russ

Yes. Richard Hendrickson

NWX and BREX had small fleets of 50' cars that were vaguely similar; the others, AFAIK, are totally bogus. But at least Athearn is being honest about the models' unprototypicality. No. Richard

having to offer it in bogus schemes to help pay off their investment< Well remember the old days, bogus car and bogus paint. VBG Jon Miller AT&SF For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax,

Russ is correct; I was thinking Streator but wrote Peoria, perhaps because in the steam era the NYC subsidiary the Santa Fe interchanged with at Streator was the Peoria & Eastern. Richard

Tim, The funny thing is North American did have some 50' ice reefers in both NADX and RPRX. I do not recall what they looked like and they probably had either plug or bifold doors. Would not be

I have five; if interested, contact me off-list. Murphy rectangular panel steel. Not that I'm aware of, but it shouldn't be hard to parts-bash them from existing 7-8 corrugated ends. Richard

Brian Carlson wrote: "Aren't these just fantasy schemes on the ATSF Reefer?" Yes. That's the irony of it all - getting a very accurate ATSF model from Athearn in multiple slogans and car numbers,

--- In STMFC@..., "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@...> asked: any ends available in that pattern? I'm not sure if the width is exact but the ends from the Intermountain USRA composite gon would