In a message dated 6/19/2007 4:10:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Ljack70117@... writes: Please tell me how the Katy served the southwest. They did not go any further west than The Texas

Earl Myers wrote: Best source of info and photos is Richard Hendrickson's book about ATSF auto cars, published by the Santa Fe Society. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press,

Beckert, Shawn wrote: Ah, but not in the time frame of this list. And I might note that when Time magazine put SP's president DJ Russell on its cover in the 1950s, they commented that, as

Mike Brock mused: I'm light years from being an expert - or even competent - on the Pennsylvania, but from everything I've read and heard, I'd have to say that their snotty attitude towards everyone,

"Did Pennsy put that slogan on its frt cars?" Notice how our benevolent list jailer definitely and deftly avoided violating the Prime Directive of STMFC. :) Mike Turner Simpsonville, SC

In a message dated 6/19/2007 11:38:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brockm@... writes: but UP's "Serves All the West" means...again...that the expression "The West starts at Fort Worth"

How does the List Owner keep himself in Jail when he has the keys? Railroad slogans and how railroads acted is a leetle bit off topic from Steam Era Freight Cars, no???? Anybody have a photo of a

<ogdentowebercanyon@...> wrote: it to Jason, Knowing the area that you are modeling I have to think that there are opportunities for reefers. While some of us may not be lucky enough to have specific

Tom Madden wrote PRR was in a steep decline at that time. If you had visited during PRR's heyday, 1900-1915, I imagine a much different impression. I've heard a lot of the same about the SP too after

Mike, The sloganeering you mention falls in the realm of "permissible puffery". I.e.: "Our product is the world's best!" Although the Gould roads (WP, MP, D&RG, etc.) much smaller, thanks to a huge

Mike Brock wrote: [snip] That, and a lot of "chain-pulling" of the very talented SPF's on this list. There's also the allure of the remote or unattainable. I was pondering the beer issue, and why so

Mike Brock wrote: Mike, Some of us are SP fans. You really don't want to open that can of worms, do you? Or is it just that we have to limit our comments to the steam era? Of course, your statement

Agreed. CB&Q's "Everywhere West". Yeah, right. CRI&P's "Rocket Freight". Uh-huh, sure. Seems like exaggeration was not unique to PRR's marketing dept. Tim O'

surely a derailment can cause very interesting re-routes, especially with high priority perishables.

In Union Pacific Steam in Color by Lloyd Stagner, pg 118, there is a photo showing Big Boy 4015 entering Cheyenne from the west on "...Oct 18, 1958, with RV-954, a "Roseville Block" perishable off the

I'm somewhat curious about the seemingly endless sniping at the Pennsy. I don't refer to legitimate discussions about traffic [ including its quality ]on the Pennsy or historic references by other

In a message dated 6/19/2007 12:40:51 PM Central Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes: Anyhow, I dunno. Seems to me that some of us "complainith too much" about the poor Pennsy. Maybe it's

What happened to the other 50 cars? Rich Orr

Well...the STMFC not being a group formed to discuss beer...and whether or not Pennsy is a beer is not grounds for inclusion into the scope of the STMFC...it is time to terminate discussions about

Tony, If you model this era, then you need the book. It is an excellent photo reference. The fact that the photos are from the Enola, PA environs made it a must have for all the Pennsy