Mike Dudley wrote: I found a photo of SP #598051 on page 344 of Tony Thompson's Volume 3 of "SP's Freight Cars - Automobile and Flat Cars." In the photo after the last light weight weighing in

wouldn't make more sense to have someone like AMB create a kit for the SP "structure" on a correct SP flat car, if it is currently made? I have already built an NYC car and it is different from the SP

AHM "calcium carbide" car, rather than the SHPX car which has 28 slots (but was also modeled by AHM).. with 22 demountable calcium carbide containers. CN 63000 seems to be bogus. There

help 124800 Tim: Also note that the SP car rode on roller bearing journals and the NYC car did not... Mike Dudley

Mike and all, I have been following this message and was just wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to have someone like AMB create a kit for the SP "structure" on a correct SP flat car, if it is

Mike: Does the SP car you refer to look like this? http://www.us-train50.de/N-Bilder/400/490.JPG http://www.us-train50.de/N-Bilder/400/488.JPG If so, then this is probably the prototype for the 22

Light Cyclopedia? Or us 4/1961 The car number is SP #598051. The LD LMT 124800. LT WT 83200. Interesting enough the caption on the photo says..Load Limit 124800 and light weight 82500. Mike

Mike Dudley wrote: Mike, Can you read the "itty bitty" numbers of the Load Limit and/or Light Weight of the photo on page 164 of the 1961 Carbuilders Cyclopedia? Or is there a reference to either in

Mike Dudley wrote: Ah, the 1961 Cyc. Those are the same photos I have from SP sources, and which I used in my Vol. 3 on SP Freight Cars to depict the two cars which SP converted. Tony

container cars, neither of which included containers. http://tycotrain.tripod.com/ahmhoscaletrainscollectorsresource/id4.ht ml the other type, pictured

wrote: Color Gilbert's also the Freight any used Tony: I am sorry your are right the car I was talking about was SP 598051 and it was a Calcium Carbide Container flat. It used the F-70-F flat car.

I was just realizing that there were actually two distinct AHM container cars, neither of which included containers. The first (which I have) was the 5394 series, as pictured

Mike Dudley wrote: What SP source is this? the documentation I used on my SP Freight Cars, Vol. 3, clearly said "calcium carbide," and I'm not aware of any SP cars set up for calcium chloride.

meet and was piece of someone tell us a (or anyone freight car operational Sir: There is a photo of this car in the Latest New York Central Color Freight Car guide (Vol II)published by Morning Sun.

Mark, I've not been able to find any type of official description of these cars anywhere. To an extent the cars followed the 1935 AAR Standard, but the main differences are in the numbers of side

More from Frank: -------------------------------- Ray You can tell them it doesn't match the GN hopper at all. I've already checked. It is only an IC hopper. The plans came from Ed Hawkins. It

Has anyone compared the new Sunshine IC hopper to DL&Ws 2 bay offset hoppers? Ed

Ben Hom wrote: Thanks, it sounds like I've got my terminology wrong when it comes to describing the IC/KGB/ELS/Army/Navy prototypes... since I shouldn't be referring to them as "alternate standard

Rich, Sorry, but no. The IC cars were 33' inside length and the GN cars were 34'-9" IL. Other than IC, roads having these 33' cars were ELS (5 cars), KGBW (20 cars), and the Army (7 cars) and Navy