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Re: armed, US based trains/ Armored

I have contacted the National Archives at College Park, the SAC Museum and USAF Museum about the missile train that SAC experimented with in the 1960s, but all say no information in their records.

By oklacnw@... · #51950 ·

box car laoding - car serrvice rules.

Are there any people on this list who are not on the Ry-ops-industrialSIG list and know about car services rules and special car orders and their enforcement in the 60’s. Someone on the list states

By Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...> · #51949 ·

Boxcar Utilization - Definitions

Tim Gilbert wrote: This may well reflect an AAR change, perhaps an effort to define more clearly what "Special Service" really was. Certainly before WW II, SP had some cars clearly identified in

By Tony Thompson · #51948 ·

Re: Boxcar Utilization - Fall 1947 vs. Spring 1949 - Empties

Tim Gilbert wrote: Tim, you yourself said that you didn't know how individual roads USED their cars; particularly with XA cars, quite a lot of options are possible, far beyond autos. I am sure

By Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> · #51947 ·

Re: Boxcar Utilization - Fall 1947 vs. Spring 1949 - Empties

Anthony Thompson wrote: Arbitrary?!! I guess you have no confidence in the Mechanical Designations of the ORER's nor their definitions. The ORER's may be even better indicators of boxcars in "special

By Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...> · #51946 ·

Re: Boxcar Utilization - Fall 1947 vs. Spring 1949 - Empties

Tim Gilbert wrote: Well, as the saying goes, "ya chooses yer pizen . . ." but making a possibly arbitrary definition in order to simplify research, while efficient, may not guide you closer to

By Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> · #51944 ·

Re: Boxcar Utilization - Fall 1947 vs. Spring 1949 - Empties

Anthony Thompson wrote: Tony, In 1955 when the ICC first distinguished between General Service Boxcars and "All Others" (sic), they referred to the "All Others" as "Special Service." In 1949, the

By Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...> · #51943 ·

Re: "Standards" and AAR voting procedures

Richard- Contrast the PRR position in the Industry with that of the Burlington. While much smaller and a lot less vocal, the Mechanical Officers of the Q were well-respected and the Q's

By Charlie Vlk · #51945 ·

Re: Boxcar Utilization - Fall 1947 vs. Spring 1949 - Empties

Tim Gilbert wrote: For many years, the AAR carried a description of "automobile car," usually under XA type, which was identified as "similar in design to general-service box cars, having 10

By Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> · #51942 ·

Re: Perishable traffic - Onions

al_brown03 wrote: Al, In both the of Fraley's Fall 1947 and Spring 1949 Reports, the SP or UP used reefers. The SOU in the Fall of 1946 used reefers. No onion loadings were reported on Maclanahan's

By Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...> · #51941 ·

Re: National Sugar Refining Company PS-2 Hoppers

I can remember seeing these cars delivered to the D.L.Clark Candy Co. (Manufacturer of Clark Bars) in Pittsburgh off the PRR. These were brought in from the PRR Island Avenue yard. Clark also received

By kuban <kuban@...> · #51940 ·

Re: Mathieson Chemical Tank Car

Bob Lucas wrote: Bob, why did you think "experimental?" The TMI just means general service (TM) with insulation (I). That said, the AAR types aren't so helpful with tank cars, where knowing the

By Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> · #51939 ·

Re: Perishable traffic

Hi Tim -- From your info, my guess about onion conveyances isn't looking so good. In the reports you have, what *were* onions shipped in? Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. been that in PFE examples, I had

By al_brown03 · #51938 ·

Re: Boxcar Utilization - Fall 1947 vs. Spring 1949 - Empties

Anthony Thompson wrote: Tony, I am probably using a narrower definition of "Automobile" car than you. My criterion is the Mechanical Designation as per the ORER's. If a boxcar is designated XMR,

By Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...> · #51937 ·

Re: Perishable traffic

al_brown03 wrote: Al, All of the Ventilated Cars reported in the the two UP Fraley Wheel Reports and two SOU Wheel Reports that I have parsed seem to have been loaded with "general boxcar

By Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...> · #51936 ·

Re: Perishable traffic

Al and Schuyler, FWIIW, he Sacramento Northern used to ship a lot of onions from Vacacille, California on their Fairfield-Willota Branch. There was large processing plant immediately adjacent to I-80

By Garth Groff <ggg9y@...> · #51935 ·

Re: (Was Perishable traffic) - PRR

On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 at 20:37:07 -0800 (PST), Malcolm Laughlin wrote: "To paraphrase an old army expression, in railroading there is a right way, a wrong way and the Pennsylvania [or STANDARD]

By Richard White · #51933 ·

Re: Mathieson Chemical Tank Car

"Correct" is in the mind of the beholder. Probably not in most cases. The few I've taken the time to examine were not very accurate IMHO. They all have some serious error. OTOH, if they look good to

By Patrick Wider <pwider@...> · #51932 ·

Re: OT UP GN/NP

Tho off topic time wise, there is a lack of UP cars on the NP in 1969 wheel reports, so the unequal distribution persists.

By Allen Rueter <allen@...> · #51931 ·

Re: Mathieson Chemical Tank Car

FWIW, Quartermaster is one word. Gene Green was number miscue

By Gene Green <bierglaeser@...> · #51930 ·

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