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Re: TNM hopper car suitable model
I think that's an Enterprise door mechanism - like the one in the Tichy USRA kit.
On 5/20/2020 4:48 PM, Nathan Obermeyer via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Canadian National 7-panel Howe Truss Boxcars Help
James Brewer
Bill,
I am currently working on two of these cars which Marc Simpson recently had re-run by Sylvan. The prototype notes included with the instructions suggest the boxcars with wood doors were built in 1929, and those with steel doors in 1930-31. It also mentions doors were sometimes swapped from steel to wood and vice versa during shoppings and repairs. In Ted Culotta''s Steam Era Freight Cars Seminar Manual he has a photo of CN 503559, built in 1929 and it does have wood doors. There is also a photo of CN 506951, built in 1930, with steel doors. Ted references an article in Railmodel Journal, June 1994, by Stafford Swain. You can view, but not print it, here: http://magazine.trainlife.com/rmj_1994_6/ I also referred to Ian Cranstone's web site for information on these cars: http://www.nakina.net/cn/cn5.html I hope this helps! Jim Brewer
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Re: Accurail DL&W 40 Foot DD Box Car
Staffan Ehnbom
The Accurail 40' double door box car started out as a McKean effort to model the GN 3000-3499 series built 1955 having a recessed diagonal panel roof, a 7 and an 8 foot door and a fish belly side sill. Bill McKean blushingly told me that an adviser told him double 6 foot doors were more common and so Bill changed prototype to the GN 3500-3999 series that had the double 6 foot doors but missed the overhanging roof and kept the fish belly side sill. Bill made a habit of trying to hide behind his desk at the few trade shows I had the chance to attend. Attached is a model photo of a McKean car with a new roof and with side sills straightened. Staffan Ehnbom
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:14 PM Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Ken -
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Re: Canadian National 7-panel Howe Truss Boxcars Help
Dave Parker
Bill, I believe these cars are the subject of Ted's EFC #8.
Best regards. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: TNM hopper car suitable model
Sam Reynolds
Nate,
Attached is a photo I quickly took of an Atlas 70-ton 9 panel 3-bay hopper that I stripped for another project. I took some measurements of the car so you can compare them to the diagram sheet. The measurements are as follows: 43'6" over end top chord; 41'3" inside length; 43'3" over strikers; 42'9" over end sills; 34' truck centers; 10'6" over side top chord. You will see from the attached photo that all of the side ribs are riveted unlike those shown in your prototype photo. I don't have one of the MDC/Roundhouse cars, but if I remember correctly they were shorter than the Atlas hopper and had riveted side ribs like the Atlas car. If interested, I have 10 of these hoppers that I'm selling since I no longer need them for kitbashing into L&N Pullman Standard PS-3 coal hoppers. Sam Reynolds
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Canadian National 7-panel Howe Truss Boxcars Help
Bill Welch
Over the years three models have been done of the CN's 7-panel Howe Truss Boxcars—F&C ()originally Steam Shack I think), Sylvan, and Kaslo Shops. I am interested in trying to understand built dates and breakdown of cars with wood doors and steel doors. Have there been any articles in the hobby press or perhaps the CNHS about these cars. Perhaps someone may be able to scan article if they have it. Thank you.
Bill Welch
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Re: ID needed
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Bill S. wrote: "Some produce didn’t need icing-just air flow. Potatoes, and I believe onions among the produce were so shipped. Were some (uninsulated) cars used for the brief(heavy) potato runs(seed potatoes in the spring, product in the fall)? Those cars could be used for other purposes the rest of the year. ACL ‘Watermellon’ (ventilated)cars had barred doors, and regular doors for other freight. The insulation, bunkers, etc. would use up a lot of space. Does anyone know if they had ‘ventilated’ box cars? Respectfully, Bill S." Hi Bill, Your post is a little confusing with regard to ventilated boxcars in that it seen you might think they were insulated where I've never heard of that being the case. The whole purpose of ventiated boxcars was to provide air flow through the cars in the warmer months to prevent crops like watermelons from begining to over ripen or rot. In theory I suppose bagged potatoes could be shipped in ventilated boxcars during the early fall and late spring months when there was no chance for them to freeze or overheat though I have no knowledge of that ever being done. They are best kept in cool, dry condtions. which is why roads like the Bangor & Aroostook rostered so many insulated box cars. These cars were not refrigerated but certainly were insulated and some also had heaters for use in winter shipment. In the hottest summer months refrigerated cars had to be used to prevent spoilage enroute. Most export seed potatoes from the US normally moved in the winter to be where they were needed by spring in the northern hemisphere. The last time I was in Winterport, Maine during the winter was between Christmas and New Year in 1976, Winterport having docking faciities just up the Penobscot River from its mouth at Searsport. At that time there was a German freighter loading seed potatoes and three or four more riding at anchor in the river waiting their turn. Unfortunately the grade of seed potatoes that were sent down the BAR for them did not meet the inspectors requirements, so we were told on the return trip when questions were asked as to where all the ship went so quckly. We were told they had sailed for New Orleans to load seed potatoes from Idaho instead. This was business lost to the BAR due to issues with Aroostook County potato growers not taking proper care of their crops in harvesting and storage. Before increasing the number of its own insulated boxcars and reefers in the post WW II era the BAR used large numbers of MDT reefers in the white paint with the blue & red strripes along the bottom of their sides. Entire trains of these cars were turned over to the Maine Central which in turn handed them over to the Boston & Maine to move them along to their destinations outsie of New England. Now almost all potatoes leaving main are shipped in tractor-trailer loads. From the mid-1970's on many of the BAR's insulaed boxcars and reefers were conversed into wood chip cars at the road's shop in Derby, Maine I can't speak about onion transport but expect some of the folks in Iowa might hace some knowledge of that. My best, Don Valentine
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Re: My latest Covid build
Thanks Dave
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On May 20, 2020, at 9:32 PM, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:
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Re: My latest Covid build
Paul Doggett
Fenton
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That’s very nice and a large hopper for 1951. Paul Doggett. England 🏴
On 20 May 2020, at 23:28, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
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Re: Best Model Trucks for B&O M-55 Boxcars
Dave Parker
Bruce:
They are planked, have Barber Lateral Motion, and the end of the truck bolster is a dead ringer for the Tahoe x09. Sideframe is a little different, but it looks like a decent match to my eye. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: SHPX ORER help needed
Aley, Jeff A
Jim,
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks for taking the trouble to scan it for me!
Regards,
-Jeff
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of James Brewer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:26 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SHPX ORER help needed
Jeff,
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Best Model Trucks for B&O M-55 Boxcars
Friends, Best Regards,
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Re: My latest Covid build
I agree, the weathering is great--doesn't takeaway from the detail but makes it look a lot less like a model.
Dave Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 6:27:55 PM, you wrote:
-- David Bott Sent from David Bott's desktop PC -- ____________________________ David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34
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Re: Update - Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Nelson Moyer
Thanks for the update, Dick. I'm relieved that the only issues have to do with the brake system, which is easy to fix.
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dick Harley via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:29 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Cc: Steve Hile <shile@...> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Update - Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers Well, I received my samples of these reefers and was quite relieved to see that they used my new artwork on all the models. Several people, including myself, were making judgements about the models based on the photos in the InterMountain advertising flyer, without noticing that the photos were NOT of car numbers in this latest run. So, the lettering is perfect (yeah, I did the artwork). The colors are just fine. The lettering can be matched with the Microscale 2-sheet set 87-501, for those wishing to change the car numbers or reweigh dates or repack dates or anything else. The -21s have fan control plates. The all orange-sided 1953-era car uses Terry’s side with the top facia board as part of the side. The assembly is very clean. Any thoughts of stripping these cars is lunacy, in my opinion. Now the bad news, which you already know. The brake system has several issues and mistakes. Steve Hile is working on a presentation to show how to fix most things, and I am assisting him. That should be ready in a few days. I am also working on a SmugMug gallery with prototype data, and I’ll announce that soon, when I feel more confident of what I say and have more images. So overall, these are fine and important cars to add to a steam era freight car roster. Stay Safe & Healthy, Dick Harley Laguna Beach, CA
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Update - Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Dick Harley
Well, I received my samples of these reefers and was quite relieved to see that they used my new artwork on all the models. Several people, including myself, were making judgements about the models based on the photos in the InterMountain advertising flyer, without noticing that the photos were NOT of car numbers in this latest run.
So, the lettering is perfect (yeah, I did the artwork). The colors are just fine. The lettering can be matched with the Microscale 2-sheet set 87-501, for those wishing to change the car numbers or reweigh dates or repack dates or anything else. The -21s have fan control plates. The all orange-sided 1953-era car uses Terry’s side with the top facia board as part of the side. The assembly is very clean. Any thoughts of stripping these cars is lunacy, in my opinion. Now the bad news, which you already know. The brake system has several issues and mistakes. Steve Hile is working on a presentation to show how to fix most things, and I am assisting him. That should be ready in a few days. I am also working on a SmugMug gallery with prototype data, and I’ll announce that soon, when I feel more confident of what I say and have more images. So overall, these are fine and important cars to add to a steam era freight car roster. Stay Safe & Healthy, Dick Harley Laguna Beach, CA
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Re: My latest Covid build
Thanks Jim, appreciate that.
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:29 PM James E Kubanick <jekuban@...> wrote:
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Re: ID needed
erieblt2
Some produce didn’t need icing-just air flow. Potatoes, and I believe onions among the produce were so shipped. Were some (uninsulated) cars used for the brief(heavy) potato runs(seed potatoes in the spring, product in the fall)? Those cars could be used for other purposes the rest of the year. ACL ‘Watermellon’ (ventilated)cars had barred doors, and regular doors for other freight. The insulation, bunkers, etc. would use up a lot of space. Does anyone know if they had ‘ventilated’ box cars? Respectfully, Bill S.
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On May 20, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Roger Huber via groups.io <trainpainter@...> wrote:
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Re: My latest Covid build
Fenton, I, too, am impressed with the build of this car. Very sharp looking. Jim Kubanick Morgantown WV
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 7:11:33 PM EDT, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:
I agree with Todd, Fenton, that is a very nice looking car. I have to ask, though, there have been some kvetching about the size of the rivet recently. Is there any thought that the rivets may be a bit large?
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
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Re: SHPX ORER help needed
James Brewer
Jeff,
I hope this helps; difficult to get the book flat enough on the scanner. Jim Brewer
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Re: My latest Covid build
Schuyler Larrabee
I agree with Todd, Fenton, that is a very nice looking car. I have to ask, though, there have been some kvetching about the size of the rivet recently. Is there any thought that the rivets may be a bit large?
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:32 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My latest Covid build
Fenton -
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