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Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 20060 (1945)
Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 20060 (1945) A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website: https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc543259/m1/1/?q=box%20car Photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Publicity photo. Good detail of "B" end. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: DT&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #2
hubert mask
Do you have enough data from my decal set to complete this car.
Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals
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Re: New Decals announced
hubert mask
Shot me a photo please. Or a reference. I'll get on it.
Thank you.
Hubert
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Re: New Decals announced
Meanwhile, still waiting after 5 years for these…
Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM This is going on my locomotive list at the top. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:36:24 -0500 Not SP, but HB&T. Since I was born in Houston, I’ve been interested in modeling a couple of HB&T SW1200s. Attached is the EMD paint diagram. It’s pretty straight forward: all yellow on a black loco.
I suspect that a few Houston-area modelers might also purchase sets, as this scheme has never been done before in HO to my knowledge (Herald King did the all yellow with herald and black letters).
Thanks!
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Hubert Mask <maskisland@...>
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Re: DT&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #2
Craig Wilson
DTI 14520 - same car in later paint scheme. Zooming in the photo I read "BUILT 10-50" on it.
Craig Wilson 
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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
Ted Culotta
Regarding the Ethyl emblem, it goes back further than 1952. It was used on cars as early as 1944 and likely prior to that, as well. Printing decals for them (dekuhls in Canadian).
Cheers, Ted Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media |
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New Decals announced
hubert mask
Begin forwarded message:
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Re: Sunshine Kits
Benjamin Hom
Ken Soroos wrote:
"The last three kits on the list seem to be special Sunshine runs commissioned by RPI. They are in the same type white boxes as the Sunshine kits and have similar labels. Note that the last one only is priced at $10. NGD-FO12 [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] Boston and Albany A 36’ Wood Boxcar w/ Dreadnaught Ends NGD-FO25 [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] Atlantic Coast Line A 40’ Victory Gondola As Built in 1943 w/composite sides Includes Decals NGD [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] DL&W 40’ Steel No Label on Box Boxcar ($10)" The NEB&W Green Dot kits were done by Funaro, not Sunshine. Ben Hom |
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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
Ian Cranstone
Interesting fun fact about those UTLX cars – they're actually cars belonging to UTLX's Canadian subsidiary Products Tank Line of Canada, being former Canadian Industries Limited cars built by Canadian Car & Foundry (likely licence-built using AC&F designs), transferred to UTLX reporting marks beginning in 1957. Broadway did a 4-pack of these cars in an earlier run, and also did a four-pack of CILX cars earlier. If you have a close look at the artwork on the Broadway site, you will see CC&F as the builder. Of course, since the Products Tank Line of Canada's markings were identical to parent UTLX's markings, only the truly picky will worry about them being Canadian cars. It wasn't until after 1962, when the Products Tank Line of Canada became Procor Limited that the Canadian operation took on a visible identity. Ian Cranstone
On 2020-08-07 21:05, Ron Merrick wrote:
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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
mopacfirst
Steve:
Thanks for the research on these. I picked up one of the Ethyl black-band cars before I realized it was too late for me, but I didn't have exact dates. I don't remember the UTLX black scheme from the first run, but those might be more useful than any of the colorful ones. Ron Merrick |
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Sunshine Kits
Ken Soroos
Hi Guys -
Our local hobby shop acquired an estate from a very good modeler here in Madison. Among the items available are the Sunshine kits listed below. There is little local interest, so I thought I’d post them here for him as they’ll never be at one of our Prototype Modeler events. All kits are priced at $24 plus (actual) shipping. I glanced in each of the boxes, which all had been previously opened for inspection, but the parts and packing seem to be all there. If you call Chris, you could ask him to check the box(es) you’re interested in to see if everything looks o.k. The descriptions below indicate what is printed on the labels. The boxes themselves vary in condition. They are all physically fine, but some of the outsides are somewhat stained and/or shop-worn. I’ve tried to indicate the box conditions on a scale from A (best) to F (poorest). The last three kits on the list seem to be special Sunshine runs commissioned by RPI. They are in the same type white boxes as the Sunshine kits and have similar labels. Note that the last one only is priced at $10. If interested, call Chris Roosli at Madison Hobby Stop at 608-829-3820 or e-mail chris@.... Ken Soroos Kit No. Description Box Condition 3.1 Atlantic Coast Line Steel Side Rebuild A-B USRA Double-Sheathed Boxcar 3.2 Charleston & Western Carolina 8000 Series Steel Side Rebuild C-D 9.7 10’-4” IH Steel USRA Rebuild Santa Fe Bx-__ (number illegible) B-C Scout Straight Line Map and “Buy War Bonds” Decals 10.6 PRR X-31 Double Door Auto Car A 11.2 EJ&E 7300 Series Steel Rebuild with White Box Herald D 14.2 A.R.T. Reefer Wood Roof Steel Hatches A 15.1 Mather 40’ Reefer Steel Ends Morrell Banner Herald A 18.2 C&O AAR Boxcar w/Deco Ends D 41.1 Milw 1939-40 Rib Boxcar “Hiawatha” Wood Board D 41.3 Milw 1939-40 Rib Boxcar “Hiawatha” Steel Board D NGD-FO12 [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] Boston and Albany A 36’ Wood Boxcar w/ Dreadnaught Ends NGD-FO25 [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] Atlantic Coast Line A 40’ Victory Gondola As Built in 1943 w/composite sides Includes Decals NGD [NEB&W Green Dot - Rensselaer RR Shop] DL&W 40’ Steel No Label on Box Boxcar ($10) Also: 101-1B Pittsburgh Scale Models (resin) Union Pacific y/w A War Emergency Flatcar ($24) Chris also has 5 older Westerfield kits for $7 each that you can ask about if interested. |
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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
Steve SANDIFER
If I am reading Richard’s article correctly, and looking at the BLI website, I come up with the following dates for the BLI paint schemes.
Columbia Southern car paint scheme is good from 1953. Great Western Dow Chemical is not shown in the article. Ethyl Corporation Gray w/Black and Yellow Logo paint scheme is good from 1952-1970s Ethyl Corporation Dark Gray with/Black Band is good from the 1970s onward (Photo in article is 1977). Hooker As-Delivered Scheme is not as-delivered according to Richard. The as delivered was Black with red stripe down the middle. He does not mention this BLI scheme. Hooker Billboard scheme is good from end of WWII. In another article and a post on this list he corrected the date to early as April, 1952. Penn Salt paint scheme is good from “the 50s” with a photo showing 2/55. Stauffer Chemical photo is not shown in the article. UTLX paint scheme is not shown in the article.
I hope some of our tank car specialist will chime in on these dates.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Helm
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:45 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
I just found my copy of a September 2004 RMJ article that Richard Hendrickson wrote about the 6000 gallon pressure tank cars used for chlorine and in there he states that the orange and black scheme appeared after WWII, so my earlier statement was clearly off. He also has a photo of the black and red scheme that Hawkins describes, dated 1938. |
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Re: PFE wood ice reefer underframes
Bill Welch
Westerfield also has PFE kits with both types of U/F's.
Bill Welch |
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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
Tony Thompson
Jeff Helm wrote: I just found my copy of a September 2004 RMJ article that Richard Hendrickson wrote about the 6000 gallon pressure tank cars used for chlorine and in there he states that the orange and black scheme appeared after WWII, so my earlier statement was clearly off. He also has a photo of the black and red scheme that Hawkins describes, dated 1938. Richard supplied a lot of the prototype information to BLI for their tank cars. Tony Thompson |
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Re: Freight car progress
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Train Miniature sill of not look at the brake platform. It looks like some sort of stamped or cast platform with a curve on the outer edge the is bent downward I presume to give it more strength as the “shelf brackets” that hold it do not extend to the outer edge. Perfectly reasonable design but I don’t recall ever seeing it used before.
Cordially, Don Valentine |
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Re: DT&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #2
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
“Weathering gone wild”? Frankly I think it looks great Bob. What was the date the car was built? Wonder if I can squeeze one in.
Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: PFE wood ice reefer underframes
Steve Summers
Not sure if it is correct for your cars, but Westerfield makes a Bettendorf fish belly single I beam underframe for Milwaukee cars, kit 12053. If it is correct perhaps a call to Andrew Dahm at Westerfield Might yield a couple of underframes. They are for 43’ boxcars which may be too long for the reefers. I simply copied it in styrene for a second model. Picture of the underframe without the details.
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Re: Photo: SFRD Stainless Steel Reefer 13000
Joseph
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Re: Photo: SFRD Stainless Steel Reefer 13000
Keith Jordan, one of the authors of the Santa Fe ice bunker reefer book, commented: "...the car was never painted in standard colors. The late ca.1963-4 photo we used in the Reefer book shows the car in it’s original stainless steel. There is the photo of the renumbered car (4150) with the Super Chief slogan side and it appears that the car numbers and some of the data were “patch painted,” which could have been SFRD color or maybe just some aluminum paint as background. Without digging out the book again, if I remember correctly, the door was replaced early on. Ed’s model is very nicely done!" Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: Block of cars
C J Wyatt
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 02:47 PM, Dave Nelson wrote:
If you go back to early in the 20th Century, you will see more talk about "classification" than "blocking", but there really is not much difference. Also in Droege Freight Terminals & Trains, you will find mention of a gravity yard built in Germany in 1846, so I think the Europeans understood the concept of classification in the mid-19th Century. Droege talks a lot about classification, but scanning the yard section, I did not see mention of "blocking". However my search was far from comprehensive. My wild ass guess is that in the USA with the emphasis on fast freight in the 1920s, "blocking" came in use as a term which the shipping public more easily understood. But like I said .... If anyone can come up with the first usage of the term blocking, I'd like to know myself, but it probably post-dates the concept of "classification" Jack Wyatt |
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