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Re: Freight car progress
Eric when did the BR&P disappear and into which railroad did it get absorbed by? Fenton On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
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Re: Freight car progress
Eric Hansmann
And the TM cars are 40-ft while all the BR&P prototypes were 36-ft cars.
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
I would second the suggestion the gons contain forms for concrete work. Look like larger versions of the forms I remember using when pouring foundation walls.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mopacfirst
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:27 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
Those could very well literally be 'forms' for concrete work, either for a retaining wall (dike or levee) or a large formed concrete structure. Could have been something being constructed at the time of the explosion. Texas City and the areas near Galveston have had levees for a long time, and they use concrete walls in areas where there isn't room for an earthen dike, and sometimes there was a concrete wall at the core of an earthen levee. |
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Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars
gary laakso
I never realized that they came in such dazzling colors:
https://www.broadway-limited.com/6000gallontankcar.aspx
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock |
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Re: Freight car progress
Benjamin Hom
Gary Laakso wrote: "The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar." ...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong. Ben Hom _._,_._,_
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Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
Richard Townsend
The one just beyond that has a different type of curved roof: concave.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2020 9:25 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947) The curved rood boxcar next to the #3 on the print, very likely is Northern Pacific.
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:18 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947) Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
A photo from the Portal To Texas History website:
Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Site of the Texas City disaster.
Can anyone identify the loads with more specificity? Caption says "large forms".
Thanks
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
mopacfirst
Those could very well literally be 'forms' for concrete work, either for a retaining wall (dike or levee) or a large formed concrete structure. Could have been something being constructed at the time of the explosion. Texas City and the areas near Galveston have had levees for a long time, and they use concrete walls in areas where there isn't room for an earthen dike, and sometimes there was a concrete wall at the core of an earthen levee.
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Photo: String Of Boxcars (Undated - 1900?)
Photo: String Of Boxcars (Undated - 1900?) A photo from the Portal To Texas History website: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1029453/m1/1/?q=depot Photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Location not stated. Reporting marks H&TC and A&NW visible. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
gary laakso
The curved rood boxcar next to the #3 on the print, very likely is Northern Pacific.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:18 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947) A photo from the Portal To Texas History website: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth11869/m1/1/?q=freight%20yard Photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Site of the Texas City disaster. Can anyone identify the loads with more specificity? Caption says "large forms". Thanks Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Photo: NYC Boxcar 177331 (1950)
Photo: NYC Boxcar 177331 (1950) A photo from the Portal To Texas History website: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1242734/m1/1/?q=warehouse Photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Built 1945. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Photo: Brick Factory With Boxcars (Undated)
Photo: Brick Factory With Boxcars (Undated) A photo from the Portal To Texas History website: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth25058/m1/1/?q=factory Photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Location not stated. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947) A photo from the Portal To Texas History website: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth11869/m1/1/?q=freight%20yard Photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Site of the Texas City disaster. Can anyone identify the loads with more specificity? Caption says "large forms". Thanks Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: Freight car progress
gary laakso
The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Minatare boxcar.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Retterer
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 8:10 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight car progress
The BR&P boxcar photos I have are the builder's photos from 1909 and 1914. I don't have any in-service 1920's photos. But here are the two from the SSCC photographer in Butler, PA. |
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Re: Freight car progress
Keith Retterer
The BR&P boxcar photos I have are the builder's photos from 1909 and 1914. I don't have any in-service 1920's photos. But here are the two from the SSCC photographer in Butler, PA.
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Re: Freight car progress
Keith Retterer
Mine is the "Time-Out Tray".
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Re: Photo: SFRD Stainless Steel Reefer 13000
Thank you for the good word! |
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Re: Photo: SFRD Stainless Steel Reefer 13000
Scott
My understanding at some point they replaced the door with a more conventional plug door. Is the proto photo the original or replacement door?
Fantastic model Ed! Scott McDonald |
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Re: Block of cars
Robert Allan
No historical context here, but on the Missouri Pacific (and subsequently the Union Pacific) the car scheduling system used "Yard Block" (YBLK) as a term since the 1960's. The classification of a shipments characteristics in the the hierarchy of yard block definitions was a first step in the scheduling process. Still is as far as I know.
Bob Allan Omaha |
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Re: Block of cars
Rufus Cone
Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...> asked:
Anyone know when the term ”Block”, describing a set of cars headed to the same location, came into general use? Or whether that concept is in use outside of North America? Similar question regarding lcomotives, where I recall hearing the term “lashup” to refer to a set of locos. Or are these just railfan/model railroader terms?John H. Armstrong in The Railroad What it Is, What It Does, 3rd Ed. Simmons-Boardman, 1990, page 169, says, "The next step in terminal operations is to assemble the cars from various sources into blocks ... headed for individual destinations; ...." This is in Ch 12 entitled Classification and Blocking. Coughlin, Freight Car Distribution, 1956 gives a specific example of blocking from the B&O. You might try these, but the pdf's are not searchable.
A Google search on "locomotive consist" gives a "consist"
discussion like that mentioned by Richard Townsend http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/135239/1516637.aspx along with a lot of official looking railroad industry web pages. -- Rufus Cone Bozeman, MT |
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matching trucks on CPR auto boxcars
I'm looking for advice on HO scale trucks that were used on these cars after the arch bar trucks would have been replaced/updated. This is for the Yarmouth Model Works kit #109 (link). I model 1946, and have few photo references close to that date for these cars. Instead, most of my photos show the cars later in life, so there appears to be a mix of trucks. Photos aren't great, but hopefully enough to go on:
   Thanks in advance, Rob Kirkham |
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