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Re: SAL 073168 tank car
Tony Thompson
Claus Schlund wrote:
Usually a car like this would be LOADED through the dome, but the apparatus looks a little like a siphon, so it may be unloading. Some states forbade unloading through bottom outlets. Tony Thompson
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Back in the day New England was a hotbed of manufacturing and textile mills. Think Stanley tools for example. These items were shipped all over the country. And they were shipped in boxcars, most likely New England road boxcars.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:37 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Quite true. But to stimulate RJ's imagination, a couple of possibilities are specialty mechanical equipment of some kind, made only by a manufacturer in New England, or specialty paper made only in a New England paper mill. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- A B&M boxcar in Seattle or LA doesn’t mean the contents were from an industry on the B&M.
Boxcars were quite free roaming as has been discussed on the list for years. Brian J. Carlson
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SAL 073168 tank car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
SAL 073168 tank car, Jacksonville FL,
1960, being unloaded?
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Allan Smith
I have Conductors lists from 1954 on the Sierra and a B&M 74195 came unto the Sierra at Oakdale Ca. 5-28-54 from the SP out of Stockton Ca Empty. So I don't know what load brought it to the SP. The Sierra sent the car back to the SP on 6-2-54 loaded with lumber for Armory Mass. B&M 74195 series 74000-74499 PS-1 9-47 lot 5877 7' 7P Sup1 door. So you can see that these cars went everywhere and you could add one to your RR. Al Smith Sonora CA
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 10:22:57 AM PDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
R J Dial wrote: I've seen pics of BAR and B&M boxcars in LA and Seattle. Stuck in my mind as always wondered what would be shipped from corner to corner of the US like that. They may have been WWII photos, but can't recall for sure. You're assuming they were loaded by the home road and sent to the West Coast. More likely they were loaded SOMEWHERE in the U.S. and sent there. For example, the car in Seattle might have come from LA or Houston. Car Service Rules would not encourage westward movements of those cars, of course, but after WW II, the AAR surveys found that only about 2/3 of car movements were in accord with those Rules, so there is a lot of scope for "exceptions," though they really are not even exceptions.
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
erieblt2
Naval shipyard Bremerton received naval supplies(valves, piping turbine parts, etc. from naval assets in the east. All GE turbines/parts came out of Lynn, and Fitchburg Massachusetts. ‘Yard Bird’ Bill S.
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On Jul 8, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Dave Parker via groups.io <spottab@...> wrote:
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SAL flat for pulpwood loading
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
SAL flat for pulpwood loading (I
think?)
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Carbon Black Car?
mopacfirst
Where there's coal in Pennsylvania, there are oilfields in Oklahoma. There famously was and is at least one producing well on the Capitol grounds on the near north side of OKC.
Actually, there's coal in Oklahoma too, but by the postwar era the oil and gas were much more important. There were numerous refineries (for oil, which could have also processed the associated gas) and gas plants (for the fields that were predominantly gas). In the late steam era, most of the shipping of refined product was by rail since long-distance pipelines were still relatively unusual. I'm sure someone can provide many more specifics. The Skelgas cars were probably UTLX, also. I believe those have been well documented. Ron Merrick
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Dump Car, Jacksonville FL
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Dump Car, Jacksonville FL, on SAL, August, 1941
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Carbon Black Car?
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Bob and all;
I see two Skelgas and at least three other (one being a UTLX), what look like ICC-105-300’s, almost certainly in compressed gas service. Is there a production area in the vicinity?
Elden Gatwood
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On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Photo: Carbon Black Car? A 1955 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society: Blockedhttps://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc193102/?q=train Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further. The covered hopper appears to be a carbon black car. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Tom;
I am the one who provided that research, but have been unable to verify who generated the loads, or a photo that shows stenciling for routing.
I suspect these may be re-purposed “silk” cars, but have not put in the time to examine various ORERs for car numbers.
For 1964:
Yet another research project….
Elden Gatwood
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On Behalf Of tmkprr1954 via groups.io
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
Aha! Thank you Ike! On 7/7/2020 9:22 PM, George Eichelberger wrote:
That didn't work, I'll try to upload the drawing here... --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Coupler Mounting Screws
Schuyler Larrabee
I’ve not bought new Kadees in some time, but quite a while ago, I bought some brass 2-56 screws from McMaster-Carr that have a very flat head, < 1/16” thick. They are slotted head, unfortunately, but I don’t think this thin a head COULD be done in a cross-point version.
They were not expensive at all, and M-C service meant that I had them in my hand second day later.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Wayne Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 1:05 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Coupler Mounting Screws
In the distant past, I tried Kadee’s 2-56 Delrin screws to mount couplers. Many of the heads snapped at off in normal use and I quit using them. Slot or Phillips head - same results
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
Thank you Ike! But any chance of seeing a higher resolution drawing? I have the book on 50 foot Southern box cars but missed out on the 40 foot cars. On 7/7/2020 9:15 PM, George Eichelberger wrote:
Although the Southern did not buy any, P-S provided information on their 40’ CUF cars, including the tests using one or two WP cars (the first with CUF?). Their first load was a shipment of boxed wine from CA to the east coast. The P-S/WP report on the trip was very successful with little or no damage to the shipment. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon
tmkprr1954
I found I had left off the X29Bs which had 34 cars equipped to handle Rayon Spools, so the total is 68 cars equipped this way on the PRR.
Tom Kane Modeling PRR in 1954 (ish) PRRT&HS 8188 Purcelleville, VA
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Tony Thompson
R J Dial wrote: I've seen pics of BAR and B&M boxcars in LA and Seattle. Stuck in my mind as always wondered what would be shipped from corner to corner of the US like that. They may have been WWII photos, but can't recall for sure. You're assuming they were loaded by the home road and sent to the West Coast. More likely they were loaded SOMEWHERE in the U.S. and sent there. For example, the car in Seattle might have come from LA or Houston. Car Service Rules would not encourage westward movements of those cars, of course, but after WW II, the AAR surveys found that only about 2/3 of car movements were in accord with those Rules, so there is a lot of scope for "exceptions," though they really are not even exceptions. Tony Thompson
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Re: Coupler Mounting Screws
Benjamin Hom
Wayne Cohen wrote: "In the distant past, I tried Kadee’s 2-56 Delrin screws to mount couplers. Many of the heads snapped off in normal use and I quit using them. Slot or Phillips head - same results." Slot or Phillips is irrelevant - why use plastic screws if electrical shorts are not an issue? Use metal screws instead. Ben Hom
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Coupler Mounting Screws
In the distant past, I tried Kadee’s 2-56 Delrin screws to mount couplers. Many of the heads snapped off in normal use and I quit using them. Slot or Phillips head - same results
The 2-56 screws Kadee is now supplying with #178 (and other?) couplers have a slightly wider and flatter appearing head. Have any of you tried them? If so, how have they worked out? Thanks, Wayne Cohen
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Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon
tmkprr1954
Good Day,
I recently acquired my first ORER (January 1953) and set out to put the PRR section into a spreadsheet. I found that 31 boxcars (X31A and X37A & B) had a note that they were equipped with "Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon". Does anyone on the list have any references to the users of these specially equipped cars or pictures of the equipment? I will review the other major carriers to see if there are equivalently equipped cars. Not a large quantity o cars, but it caught my eye! Regards, Tom Kane Modeling PRR in 1954 (ish) PRRT&HS 8188 Purcelleville, VA
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Photo: Carbon Black Car?
Photo: Carbon Black Car? A 1955 photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society: https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc193102/?q=train Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further. The covered hopper appears to be a carbon black car. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: SOO Boxcar
Photo: SOO Boxcar An undated photo from the Oklahoma Historical Society: https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1120289/?q=railroad Click on the photo to enlarge it and use the Zoom button to enlarge it further. Possible car number is 40388. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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