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IC green and yellow refrigerators
Lester Breuer
I see models from different manufactures of IC metal side refrigerators with yellow paint and green lettering on sides and some with black, or boxcar red or green ends and roof. Did any of these schemes appear in a prototype? I ask this as search of archieves did not produce an answer. Thank you in advance for help.
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Re: Tank cars--modeling in 12 inches equals one foot scale
mel perry
sure hope they build some ptotection, from the elements mel perry On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:44 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Re: Tank cars--modeling in 12 inches equals one foot scale
Tony Thompson
Andy Carlson wrote:
Richard and I used to call Naperville "the Freight Car National." Tony Thompson |
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Tank cars--modeling in 12 inches equals one foot scale
Andy Carlson
I have a friendship started at a Naperville decades ago. A good modeler, Ron also is very helpful to the local Montecello Illinois railroad museum. When Ron was told about a pair of tank cars at a local ADM plant which were to be scrapped Ron worked out a purchase for donating the tank car pair to the museum. He later gave an endowment of enough money to fund the restorations which has now been recently completed in glorious tank car nervana. Ron is a special guy, even beyond this tank car pair, for he has purchased a section of Iowa farm land which he has been working by hand to restore the property to High Grass Prarie condition. He has the property destined to be donated to a group dedicated to preserving Iowa High grass Prarie. A great modeler, and an even greater person! I have mentioned to folks many times that when at Naperville I seemed to always be missing some clinic due to my being occupied in conversation with interesting modelers. From early 20th Century modeler Howard Garner, to late TOFC modeler, Richard Yaremko and numerous others in between, I have had great stays at Naperville. The loss of these events thisn year reminds me how much I appreciate the RPM meets. Thanks go to the pioneers, such as Richard Hendrickson and Tony Thompson who sensed the importance of such gatherings. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA Hi Ron,
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Re: Photo: Heinz Wagon On Flatcar
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for the great images. It is a PRR flat, probably a PRR class FM flat. It rolls on archbar
trucks.
Claus Schlund
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Photo: Chicago & Alton Gondola 20694 With Coal Load
David
One of 800 gondolas in series 20000-20799 built by Pressed Steel Car in 1900, the last 200 with drop doors.
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Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 2010-2019
John H. Reinhardt
On 7/14/2020 3:44 PM, Nolan Hinshaw via
groups.io wrote:
On Jul 13, 2020, at 12:53, John H. Reinhardt <johnhreinhardt@...> wrote:I know it's been a while but I just got the 10-Year Archive 2010-2019 for my birthday and they arrived today.[has no problems with it] I can't be bothered; on the other hand, I'd buy a boxed set of discs of the first 40 or 50 years of high-quality reproductions without batting the proverbial eye. I, too, have access to the digital archive and keep looking at stuff yea, even unto volume 1 issue 1 on occasion, and keep finding gems. One part of me wishes I'd bought the original 1934-2009 DVD set,
but then again those PDFs *WERE* encrypted and the only way to
decode them was the app that came on the DVD. Unfortunately, as a
Mac user, that app only worked up until a certain version of MacOS
(somewhere around 10.9 or 10.10 - 7 years ago) and they never
updated it so it would be useless for me now. I would also snap
up an un-encrypted re-issue if they ever made it available. But I
am slowly doing a print to PDF of the online archive so at some
point it won't really matter although I think the DVD results
would be better. -- John H. Reinhardt PRRT&HS #8909 C&O HS #11530 N-Trak #7566 |
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Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 2010-2019
On Jul 13, 2020, at 12:53, John H. Reinhardt <johnhreinhardt@...> wrote:
I know it's been a while but I just got the 10-Year Archive 2010-2019 for my birthday and they arrived today.[has no problems with it] I can't be bothered; on the other hand, I'd buy a boxed set of discs of the first 40 or 50 years of high-quality reproductions without batting the proverbial eye. I, too, have access to the digital archive and keep looking at stuff yea, even unto volume 1 issue 1 on occasion, and keep finding gems. |
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Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 2010-2019
John H. Reinhardt
On 5/5/2020 8:20 AM, Nelson Moyer
wrote:
I know it's been a while but I just got the 10-Year Archive 2010-2019 for my birthday and they arrived today. I use a Mac so I haven't looked at what happens on a Windows or even Linux system, but my disks are NOT copy protected. There is no DRM that I can find. I copied the contents of the two DVD (about 13.8GB) to my Mac's hard drive and I can open any issue with Apple's Preview (Adobe Acrobat clone) with no problem. The PDF files are hidden in an invisible "PDFs" folder but I copied them out to a visible folder and everything still worked. There is a basic "index" PDF, one for each disk, which links to "page" PDF files for each year. The page PDF has a picture of each issue that you click and the appropriate issue opens up. There is a one-page "How to Use" PDF which explains the basics. As mentioned there is no in-depth index though so you need some other sort of index to find what you want unless you want to scan each issue. I have access to the online all encompassing archive and the few issues that I have looked at seem to be of slightly better quality than the issues I have printed to PDF from the online archive. I wish they had included the GMR and MRP yearly issues instead of the "Special" issues, but that's just me.
Nelson, if you find that hidden "PDFs" folder you should be able to copy it to the hard drive on your computer. -- John H. Reinhardt PRRT&HS #8909 C&O HS #11530 N-Trak #7566 |
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Tangent General American 1952 Tank Car GATX Number
pennsylvania1954
I have one of these beautiful 8000 gal. models which is now an undec. Tangent says most of these cars had billboard schemes for their lessee operators, but not all. Can anyone point to a mid-50's photo of one of these cars in plain black with GATX reporting marks? Thanks!
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Re: Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 152693
This is one of the ones I was referring to the other day. A wooden car that had been rebuilt with a steel center sill from Bettendorf, but retaining truss rods for a wood framed double sheathed body, steel ends and doors. Most served through WWII but disappeared rapidly after the war. Steve Hile -----Original Message----- |
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Photo: Chicago & Alton Gondola 20694 With Coal Load
Photo: Chicago & Alton Gondola 20694 With Coal Load A circa 1900-1905 photo from the Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/item/2016811460/ Use the Download box for larger versions of this photo. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 152693
Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 152693 A 1939 photo from the Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017809687/resource/ Click on the TIFF version to see the most details of the car and the grain elevator. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Photo: NP Boxcar 11760
Photo: NP Boxcar 11760 A 1939 photo from the Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017809730/resource/ Click on the TIFF version to see the most details of the car. Good view of radial car roof and "B" end with lever brake handle. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: Erie 1937 AAR Boxcar – IMWX Upgrade #2
Another nice build, Bob. You're making good use of your Covid-19 isolation!!!
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Re: Erie 1937 AAR Boxcar – IMWX Upgrade #2
Bob Chapman
Brian Carlson asks:
Bob. I’m working on one of these. What paint color did you use?
Uh oh -- a COLOR question! First, let's skip all the usual prototype color disclaimers. Brian -- I'm not an Erie modeler, so went to sources for information. In 11/90 RMJ, Ed Hawkins recommended Floquil ATSF Mineral Brown for the 4/49 ACF #90500-91199 series (not a 1937 AAR). In the RPC Vol 3 "colors by road" table, A 50-50 mix of Floquil BCR and Oxide was suggested for Erie in the 40s. 1949 is near my era, and in the dinosaur cave here I had some Floquil ATSF Mineral Brown, so I went with it. The Erie guys are probably rolling their eyes, but I like it.
Regards,
Bob Chapman
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Photo: Ballast Cleaning Train With PRR Hopper Cars
Photo: Ballast Cleaning Train With PRR Hopper Cars A photo from the Historic Pittsburgh website: https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A200905.233.HF/viewer Scroll on the photo to enlarge it. This post corrects the comment that these car were receiving coal. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 384661
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Garth and List Members,
If you closely examine the image you sent out to us
all, one can easily see that the stake pockets near the center of the
car have been modified for some specialized use -
they look to be securing some kind of steel pivot plate or other loadbearing
surface
So I'm not too bothered by
the stake pocket count. It would not come as a great surprise to me if the stake
pockets were modified for use with one or more specific loads, since this is
such a very specialized car moving even more specialized loads
Trucks are also different between the
two photos, having gone from arch bar to a more modern design
The overall profile of the car looks to be a dead
on match, even down to the unique rectangular openings in the car frame at the
body bolster locations.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Match and Strawboard Making
This is the first time I have heard strawboard, it makes sense that the Cherry paper mill in Tama, Iowa, was making that product .
In the late 40 the school toured the plant. They had many bales of straw, and paper all to be mixed together in huge kettles. At the time the paper product was made into the folding egg separators in wood egg cases. The plant changed hands several times and is still inspiration today. I believe it is now Tama Paperboard. Doing a bit of research it was know as a strawboard plant See the history at https://books.google.com/books?id=N1UiAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA3-PA14&lpg=RA3-PA14&dq=history+tama+Cherry+paper+mill&source=bl&ots=8xT6qUY1No&sig=ACfU3U022vs7rAs8vXHXznBo2_VTf-6huw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiq4uqD4szqAhVDVc0KHbSZAqAQ6AEwAXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=history%20tama%20Cherry%20paper%20mill&f=false Probably too long to work I googled this history tama Cherry paper mill Ron Christensen |
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 384661
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Claus and Jim, Thanks for your help with the P&LE flat car ID. One problem though. The 1941 car has only seven stake pockets, while the car in the earlier photo Jim presented has 12. A rebuild is a likely possibility. Or perhaps this is 6883 and it had a different number of stake pockets from 6884. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
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