Date   

Re: Grab Iron On SFRD 7918

wrlyders
 

This is one of the big reasons I like this io group: quick and informative responses to a submission.

 

I want to thank Bruce, Steve, Dennis, Alexander, and Dave for replying to my Grab Iron submittal.

 

Maybe I’m not picky enough on actual grab iron size but I did find a tool increment whose size appeared to align with HO and later a O-scale size. But a couple of responses noted  it was not quite the correct size.

 

I also had to insert the wide flat end to put the “U” into and then bend with pliers to get those funny bends for the realistic grab iron shape.

 

The reason I like having a tool is consistency in size and shape for scratchbuilding a car part. The Micro Mark tool appeared to do that for me.

 

Dave Parker, the tool that you mentioned in your note didn’t appear on my email. I am interested in seeing it as I might use it going forward.

 

Thanks to all,

 

Bill

 

Dave Parker response: I posted this at the end of June, but here it is again. A grab iron bending jig that is (a) functionally free, and (b) infinitely adjustable to any desired width.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of wrlyders via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 10:13 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Grab Iron On SFRD 7918

 

This grab iron thread has been going on for quite a while. But I have never seen a mention of a super grab iron tool at Micro Mark that has made the many grab irons I have had to make for my scratch built HO and O-scale cars: #84745 Grab Iron Bending Gauge

 

I have attached a picture of it. Enjoy!!

 

Bill

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:56 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Grab Iron On SFRD 7918

 

Yes. 

Someone else pointed out that the standoff bracket is very slightly bent upward so that might account for the crooked grab iron.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Attachments:


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Jerry Michels
 

Interesting thread.  Regardless of the internet being down, work schedules, etc.  The requester asked for the information, work was done to accommodate him/her, and a simple thank you is just so simple, this is, as Eric posted, rude.  If the requestor was asking for information, it is hard to assume that he/she was not planning to work on the resin model for a few months.
Jerry Michels


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Eric Hansmann
 

Public flogging by email can push someone completely out of our hobby. We all have personal or work issues that flare up and consume our time. My own attention has been diverted to several family issues since early June. And I was kicked to the curb by Covid for several days to start July. Email has not been a priority. 

I suggest a follow up email in a few days. Encourage the modeler to snap and send a few progress images. They might not start the model for another month. I started a Westy kit June 1st and it’s been lagging on my workbench. Other issues have demanded my attention and hobby time has suffered. It happens to us all. 

Now excuse me while I finish mowing the lawn before it hits 90 degrees. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 22, 2022, at 9:40 AM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Don't give up  Charlie, while there are a few bad eggs out there most of us will appreciate your efforts
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 8:37 AM Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51=duck.com@groups.io> wrote:

After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

O Fenton Wells
 

Don't give up  Charlie, while there are a few bad eggs out there most of us will appreciate your efforts
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 8:37 AM Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51=duck.com@groups.io> wrote:

After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Robert G P
 

Dont let it discourage you from helping anyone. Ive had something similar happen to me. Turned out it was just a mishap in communication/not checking email etc. 

Good on you for helping him though in a timely manner, some might have just waited around till who knows how long! 



On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 10:02 AM Kevin Macomber <sales@...> wrote:

Gents, I semi-retired as a field sales engineer this year, I've owned Narrow Gauge Modeling Co. for seven years, member of the Freemasons, and sponsor two train shows.  I note this because, it is not uncommon for me to have 100 emails a day to which I respond to every valid one.  That said, I can tell you one consistent problem . . . people no longer check their email or messaging on FB.  It is not uncommon that I have to prod people 2-3 times to get a response.  If they do, it is clearly from their phone or tablet where the answers are short and/or incomplete.  The second issue is firewalls.  My website sits on a well known hosting company and I am told regularly, my emails are going to their spam folder.  This should not be the case but it happens.  Large files often take that path, particularly if it is a large file, which most scans are.  

To accommodate this, I enter my email in the cc address so a copy goes back to my email inbox.  I wait for a response and then send the same way again asking "did you receive this."  I would guess 80% respond eventually which really helps my business.  That said, I find myself regularly picking up the phone and in fact with the Freemasons, we went back to the phone tree.  Communications are going full circle.

Kevin

NGMC


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Kevin Macomber
 

Gents, I semi-retired as a field sales engineer this year, I've owned Narrow Gauge Modeling Co. for seven years, member of the Freemasons, and sponsor two train shows.  I note this because, it is not uncommon for me to have 100 emails a day to which I respond to every valid one.  That said, I can tell you one consistent problem . . . people no longer check their email or messaging on FB.  It is not uncommon that I have to prod people 2-3 times to get a response.  If they do, it is clearly from their phone or tablet where the answers are short and/or incomplete.  The second issue is firewalls.  My website sits on a well known hosting company and I am told regularly, my emails are going to their spam folder.  This should not be the case but it happens.  Large files often take that path, particularly if it is a large file, which most scans are.  

To accommodate this, I enter my email in the cc address so a copy goes back to my email inbox.  I wait for a response and then send the same way again asking "did you receive this."  I would guess 80% respond eventually which really helps my business.  That said, I find myself regularly picking up the phone and in fact with the Freemasons, we went back to the phone tree.  Communications are going full circle.

Kevin

NGMC


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Jim Betz
 


  ... he may have his email set up so he didn't ever see the email sent with the info ...

  ... and he's sitting there saying "that guy Charlie is a jerk - he didn't even ack my
email asking for into" and doesn't know the problem is on his end.  *G*

  I agree that if he got the info he should have acknowledged it - just pointing out
that there are many 'dependencies' on the use of the web/email/whatever and
many guys don't know what works or why.
                                                                                                 - Jim in the PNW


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

 

That’s just rude.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Charlie Duckworth via groups.io" <Worth51@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 22, 2022 at 7:37 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

 

After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Tim O'Connor
 

Charlie

Seriously ! At our age memory and health and habits ain't what they used to be... I've been
known not to read email for weeks at a time. Maybe he didn't expect such a wonderful turn,
done so quickly! You did good, give yourself credit. I think the Sunshine inst & data files are
'public domain' now correct? Post the PDF to the RealSTMFC group data files and you help
a thousand people! :-)

Tim O'Connor

On 7/22/2022 9:16 AM, Nelson Moyer wrote:

On a kinder, gentler note, maybe the guy’s internet is down, or he’s off the grid for a few days.

 

Nelson Moyer



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Nelson Moyer
 

On a kinder, gentler note, maybe the guy’s internet is down, or he’s off the grid for a few days.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:37 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

 

After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Nelson Moyer
 

Instead of penalizing the next guy, identify the ingrate. Let peer pressure deal with the ingratitude.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 7:37 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

 

After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Paul Doggett
 

Charlie 

It’s terrible when people don’t acknowledge the help you have given them ☹️☹️☹️
Paul Doggett 


On 22 Jul 2022, at 13:37, Charlie Duckworth via groups.io <Worth51@...> wrote:



After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Just say ‘thanks for your trouble’

Charlie Duckworth
 

After posting images of a resin car I’d built recently I received a private email saying that the sender had bought the same car at a swap meet and it was missing the instructions and PDS.  He asked if I could send him the paperwork.   I went down to basement and got my scanner, located the paperwork, scanned and emailed what he’d asked for probably 20 minutes of effort.  No response on receiving my email for the past two days so I asked him yesterday ‘did you get my PDF’?  

Still being ghosted - needless to say it makes one think twice about helping the next guy when this happens.  


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Some new stuff from Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver
 

https://elgincarshops.blogspot.com/2022/07/new-items-from-yarmouth-model-works.html

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: WWII oil transport

C J Wyatt
 

The need for tank car trains to the east coast was greatly reduced with the completion of the "Big Inch" Pipeline (petroleum) in August 1943 and the "Little Big Inch" Pipeline (product) in August 1943. Here is a summary:

Big Inch Pipelines of WW II - American Oil & Gas Historical Society (aoghs.org)

Jack Wyatt


Re: Smoky Mtn Model Works NOS kits now available -- list attached

Bruce Griffin
 


Friends,

Is anyone interested in HO scale Smoky Mtn B&O M-53 boxcar kits? Never opened.  I am happy to sell a few at cost plus shipping? Excellent kits, I just have too many Wagontops on my 1950 layout, even for a B&O modeler. I need to find some more M-26 kits. Thanks.  

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: FW & D Covered Hopper - Too Much Information

Jim Betz
 

Charlie,

  Looks like it will be a great car when done.

  FWIW - when applying paint that is to represent "roof cement" I apply it with
a brush and move the brush in ways that simulate the way that roof cement
is applied on the prototype (using a mop instead of a brush, roller, or sprayed).
  I don't like to get it too noticeable but I don't want it to be smooth nor linear.
One way I get this effect is to 'push' the brush instead of the normal brush
strokes.  And also using side to side motions as well.  I like to think of the
way that the janitors in my grade school mopped the floor. 

                                                   - Jim in the PNW


Re: Grab Iron On SFRD 7918

Dave Parker
 

I posted this at the end of June, but here it is again. A grab iron bending jig that is (a) functionally free, and (b) infinitely adjustable to any desired width.



--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Photo: Chicago & Alton Boxcar (Circa 1901-1905)

David
 

I dunno, looks to me like regular boards nailed against the inside of the door opening. That was a pretty typical practice; I believe dedicated grain doors with paper seals were a bit later than this era.

David Thompson


Re: Grab Iron On SFRD 7918

Alex Schneider
 

Same concept but increments of 1/20 inch rather than 1/32. Not even useful for O or S scale, nor model aircraft at 1/72 or 1/144.

Alex Schneider 

2661 - 2680 of 196837