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Re: Photo: Loading Tank Cars (Circa 1919)
Bob,
I think that you might have meant that some of the cars lacked dome platforms on the side pictured. They all appear to have running boards. Regards, Bruce Smith Auburn, AL |
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
Bill Parks
Mike -
Thanks for the info. That certainly makes sense. -- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida |
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Re: Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925
Hudson Leighton
What would a "grain tight sheathing angle" be?
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Re: Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925
I’m not sure how to answer that question Tim. (no one made the youtube video, lol). However, it was done to thousands of cars in the late teens and 1920s on the CPR alone (and i’m sure
on a lot of other RRs). Almost all the cars rebuilt in this fashion that i’ve crawled under appear to also incorporate steel Z section cross pieces (not sure what to call them) to support the queen posts, with truss rods remaining in place with the steel
centre sill after rebuilding. The photo of the underframe on CP 52850 (almost no remaining paint) shows this. To me that indicates that a lot of the structure was unchanged when the steel c-sills replaced the wood.
A number of rebuilt car series on the CPR remained with wood sheathed ends (and a pair of steel posts up the exterior of the ends for support (see the 3/4 view of 52850 (almost no remaining paint)) Many other rebuilt CPR cars received steel
ends (Murphy corrugated and Murphy dreadnaught on the CPR). In some of those situations, such as the 3/4 angle view of CP 197424 attached (well painted but unusual colour), the ends are this unusual combination of Murphy corrugated and a great big old wood
end sill.
Rob
On Oct 1, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Rebuilt with steel center sills to replace wooden center sills, wow ! Is that easier than it sounds ? On 10/1/2022 4:04 PM, Hudson Leighton wrote: Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925 -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts 
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Re: Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925
Rebuilt with steel center sills to replace wooden center sills, wow ! Is that easier than it sounds ? On 10/1/2022 4:04 PM, Hudson Leighton wrote: Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925
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Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925
Hudson Leighton
Northern Pacific Boxcar Upgrades 1925
-Hudson 
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L&N 50' Single Sheaths
Dale White
Hi All,
I came across a photo of an L&N 50' Single Sheath boxcar, series 9800-9899, on page 64 of Kline's and Culotta's The Postwar Freight Car Fleet. I was wondering if anyone had any further information or photos on these cars outside of what is available in the ORERs. I'd like to kitbash or scratchbuild one, but I would like more information on them. -Dale |
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
Schleigh Mike
Hi Bill & Group! New Sinclair tank cars were delivered from builders with the dome ring. Later Sinclair used four silver 'dots' painted on the domes. The conventional wisdom believes the dots were intended to offer ready identification of their cars when mixed in trains and cuts. Few other tankers were so marked. It is easy to think the rings served the same purpose in earlier times. The dots and the large "SINCLAIR" billboard lettering began in the late twenties and the rings began to disappear thereafter. Great photo! Regards from Mike Schleigh in Western Penna.
On Friday, September 30, 2022, 06:25:07 PM EDT, Bill Parks via groups.io <bparks_43@...> wrote:
Car #4646 has a white band around it's dome. I assume this means something. Does anyone know what? Thanks -- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida |
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Re: ABSENTEE
We often discuss SN with him and he has given us the SN webpages at it home on WPLives.org
His help in the past has been greatly appreciated K. Cochran FRRS/WPRM Info@...
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Airbrushing Water-Base Paints
I am a Vallejo dealer, I don't have an extensive stock, maybe 30 colors. I have tried to add any colors mentioned on this list as they seem to be what folks are using. I am happy to order any colors that you want. I accept checks, money orders, PayPal and credit cards. I ship USPS First Class or Priority. George Prototype N Scale Models (TM) by George Hollwedel 2108 Buffalo Tundra Dr Austin, TX 78754-5960 512-796-6883 proto.nscale@... |
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Re: Armour Stock Car Photos
Charlie Vlk
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Note that the kit is rendered differently in the HO and N Scale versions. In N the car is too small to be trying to straighten spaghetti Z framing and seems it would have been better to do the sides in one piece resin. Charlie Vlk
On Sep 30, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
It's the only one that looks freshly painted -- may be some kind of safety experiment? The Santa Fe used color coded stripes on company tank cars for different cargos. On 9/30/2022 6:25 PM, Bill Parks via groups.io wrote: Car #4646 has a white band around it's dome. I assume this means something. Does anyone know what?
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Re: Armour Stock Car Photos
Charlie Vlk
Ray- Thanks for providing the photos! I think the one that I remembered was one of them. I will share this with Rupert Gamlin, our resident (New Zealand!!!) CB&Q Freight Car Roster Expert. I will have to check the Burlington Bulletin on the stockcars to see if it was mentioned there; that may be where I saw the photo in the first place!! Thanks! Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Breyer via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:20 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Armour Stock Car Photos
I've got photos of two of those cars, Charlie. They're attached.
I did a little digging, and it looks like these were BUILT by the CB&Q, but directly for Swift. The cars first appear in the SLSE ORER listings around 1926, which is when the Q was building the SM-18 class stock cars. (SM-18: no end doors, built by CB&Q 1926-1928. SM-16: with end doors, built ACF 1922 and CB&Q 1924). The cars always ran under Swift branding (SLSE, SLST, SLSX), but for three different owners: Swift, which sold their car line to Quaker City in 1930, and then to GATX which bought Quaker City in 1934. There was lots of that sort of private car shuffling going on in the early years of the Depression.
Ray Breyer
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 08:36:33 PM CDT, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:
Of course I can’t lay hands on it at the moment but I recall seeing a photo of a Armour or Swift stock car that was of CB&Q heritage, possibly a SM16 36’ steel framed car or one of the wood framed look-alikes. Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Breyer via groups.io
>>Is there anything close in HO? iirc there were similar stock cars operated by Swift (SLSX). >Phil Lee
Post-1936, that's because both fleets were GATX cars leased to Armour & Swift. Armour stopped owning their own stock cars around 1910, and Swift around 1932.
Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
akerboomk
RE: White band: there's at least 4 other cars with white bands on their domes
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Re: Photo: Santa Fe Gondolas 172969 & 173808 (1940)
Peter Hall
Very neat motor - and one big pantograph.
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Re: Rapido Northern Pacific boxcar
WILLIAM PARDIE
Charlie has a down day and yet knocks a freight car that would take the rest of us (except for Clark and Paul D) a week to do. He is rapidly rising on my railroad hero list. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Charlie Duckworth via groups.io" <Worth51@...> Date: 9/30/22 7:04 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido Northern Pacific boxcar RJ That’s the couple that came with the car. I’m planning on changing out to a Kadee semi scale one Charlie On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:04 AM radiodial868 <radiodial57_at_gmail.com_Worth51@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Santa Fe Gondolas 172969 & 173808 (1940)
Clarence Zink
There are a few more photos of the Santa Rita mine in the Library of Congress Farm Security Administration/Office of War Information collection.
Here, and attached is a cropped photo of the electric loco used, with the LOC reference:  CRZ 
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
Bill Parks
Car #4646 has a white band around it's dome. I assume this means something. Does anyone know what?
Thanks -- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida |
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
Claus
Google is your friend. FLUX in this context refers to an oil product used with/for asphalt. Frames with no tank ! Now that's something I've never seen before ! :-) On 9/30/2022 3:42 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
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Re: Photo: Many Sinclair Tank Cars (Circa 1917-1918)
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Bob and List Members,
Great images!
In the one link referenced below, there is a cut of four cars on the rightmost track, starting with car SDRX 1033. Questions...
(1) The car sez "FLUX". What does that mean in this context?
(2) The two cars in the cut furthest from the camera are frames with no tank. So is this the repair track?
TIA
Claus Schlund
On 30-Sep-22 12:53, Bob Chaparro via
groups.io wrote:
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