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Re: Photo: HLSX 1 Triple-Deck Livestock Car

Eric Hansmann
 

It looks more like a poultry car to me.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 12:34 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HLSX 1 Triple-Deck Livestock Car

 


Swine, more likely. They don't jump. :-)

On 11/11/2022 1:12 PM, Bill Parks via groups.io wrote:

What would a triple deck car carry, sheep?

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Bill Parks


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Photo: HLSX 1 Triple-Deck Livestock Car

Tim O'Connor
 


Swine, more likely. They don't jump. :-)

On 11/11/2022 1:12 PM, Bill Parks via groups.io wrote:

What would a triple deck car carry, sheep?

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Bill Parks

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: NHIX 900-999 frozen food reefers in service

Tim O'Connor
 


NYC definitely served the Bronx, since that is the location of the route into Manhattan Island. The CNJ had no direct
rail link but could serve the city boroughs via car barges. I think there is still a rail served produce/food terminal in the Bronx.


On 11/7/2022 9:04 PM, nyc3001 . wrote:

I guess it depends on which one we're thinking of. CNJ had its own, but the Central apparently also had a "Bronx Terminal" to the north that handled 10,000 cars per year.

-Phil

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: Photo: HLSX 1 Triple-Deck Livestock Car

Bill Parks
 

What would a triple deck car carry, sheep?

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Bill Parks
Cumming, GA
Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida
Re: NHIX 900-999 frozen food reefers in service

Tim O'Connor
 


Has anyone got a photo to share of one of these cars ? I have never seen one. :-)

On 11/7/2022 3:49 PM, nyc3001 . wrote:

According to Sunshine's PDS, the NHIX 900-999 series frozen food reefers were principally routed between Washington state and the Bronx Terminal Market in NYC. Does this suggest that they would often travel in groups of more than one? While there were only 100 built, I will justify having two if they frequently traveled over the Water Level Route in groups of more than one.

-Phil Lee

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Photo: HLSX 1 Triple-Deck Livestock Car

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: HLSX 1 Triple-Deck Livestock Car

Photo appears to be a builder’s photo from 1928.

Designed by North American Car Company and built by the Standard Steel Car Company.

This car had facilities for feeding and watering. Note the caretaker’s room on the near end.

Link to an article from the November 24, 1928, Railway Age about this car:

https://tinyurl.com/y8zfw2ff

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup
Re: Photo: Shell Tank Cars

Tim O'Connor
 


a couple of SCCX insulated GATC tank cars


On 11/6/2022 5:33 PM, Tangent Scale Models via groups.io wrote:

Ken Adams said "Does anyone want to take a guess at the manufacturer and size of these tank cars?  The first one looks like it might have an insulating jacket."

Regarding SCCX 1114, Jack Mullen said "Based on the safety valves placed on centerline with the man way between, either Pennsylvania Tank Car or Standard Tank Car. Yes, it's jacketed, so insulated Class III or IV."
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SCCX 1114 is a General American build, ~8,000 gallon insulated ICC-103 (type III) on the 1928-Design underframe (sometimes called a "Type 30" or "Type 40").

The second tank is an ACF build, ~10,000 gallon non-insulated ICC-103 (type III) on a "Type 27" underframe.  Dave Parker, I believe this ACF build has a non-insulated tank since most if not all of the ACF builds from that era that were insulated had overhanging wrappers on the ends, like the GATC build SCCX 1114 in this same photo, but is clearly lacking even with the low res here. In other words, my rationale is no overhanging wrappers on the ends.  And my second piece of evidence: I have multiple photos of other SCMX tanks from the same era (mostly GATC builds) and they are non-insulated but have this same characteristic large expansion dome.  Seems to be a Shell builder preference.

David Lehlbach

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Freight car fleet additions

Eric Hansmann
 

Charlie Duckworth was busy cranking out models this past summer. Several of his projects are featured in the latest Resin Car Works blog post. 
Free on-line railroad book.

np328
 

As I continue to look for information, I am thankful that older Railway Ages and other books are found now on-line. 
Here is one, more of a railfans coffee table book, however still good enough with a cuppa coffee to spend some time with and bookmark: 
100 hundred years of railroad cars       https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015006059086&view=1up&seq=1               

Some of the drawings and cross sections are where this book really shines.                                                                                                       James Dick - Roseville, MN 
Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

golden1014
 

Victor and Dennis,

Indeed, the DA end fits your Accurail car nicely.  I did an article in the SCL Modeler magazine in 2008 (Wow--it's been 14 years already?) covering the ACL gons with both dreadnaught and Improved Dreadnaught ends. 

John Golden
Re: Industry appropriate cars

Jack Mullen
 

A friend of an uncle owned a small bottling plant which I visited a few times in the late '50s-early '60s. I was pre-teen so don't remember in much detail but can offer a few points. 
This was a small operation that received everything by truck, and delivered likewise. I recall they used bagged sugar. Flavorings came in liquid form as far as I can recall.
I seem to remember a considerable number of CO2 containers. All the above could potentially be delivered by rail if the size of the business was greater, or maybe in an area with poor roads. Glass bottles were used packed in wooden cases or cardboard six packs. Crown caps would be another consumable.
As I recall there was a house brand with a few flavors and they also bottled some other brands, none of the majors.

Jack Mullen
Re: D&RG 4-6-0 #234

William Reed
 

Clarence, 

Does your model resemble either of these 4-6-0's? 773 is Standard Gauge and 169 is Narrow Gauge. The number on your model is not consistent with D&RGW numbering practices for that type of locomotive. 

William
aka drgwk37

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Clarence Zink <clarence.zink@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 12:49 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] D&RG 4-6-0 #234
 
Hi -
I'm aware this might not be the place for this question, but this group is about the "steam era".

I got an old brass Rio Grande 4-6-0 steam locomotive, #234, at a club raffle the other night, and want to authenticate it's existence.  It was a donation to the club, but has a broken rear truck on the tender.  There are no manufacturer's identification marks on it that I can find from an  external investigation.

It doesn't come up in any of the D&RGW websites I've tried.

Can anyone suggest a website that would/might contain some info about this loco?

Thanks,

CRZ

Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Kenneth Montero
 

Tichy makes the 52' war emergency gondola in plastic - a one-piece body.

Ken Montero

On 11/10/2022 5:47 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Wasn't this in plastic at one time? Some early company like Hobbyline.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 11/10/2022 4:31 PM CST Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


sunshine did offer a kit for a 41' war emergency gondola.
So does F&C, if you’re talking about the car I think you are.

Tony Thompson


Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Eric Hansmann
 

Wasn't this in plastic at one time? Some early company like Hobbyline.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 

On 11/10/2022 4:31 PM CST Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
 
 
sunshine did offer a kit for a 41' war emergency gondola.
So does F&C, if you’re talking about the car I think you are.

Tony Thompson
 

 
Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Eric Hansmann
 

Ken,
 
Hugh had mentioned a Sunshine Models 52' 6" NYC war emergency gondola. And he mentioned an Ulrich version, which is here.
 
 
These are similar to the Tichy model.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 
 
 

On 11/10/2022 3:51 PM CST Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
 
 
Eric,
 
No, rhe Tichy kit is for a 52' long gondola.
 
sunshine did offer a kit for a 41' war emergency gondola.
 
Ken Montero
On 11/10/2022 4:45 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
 
 
Is that the same one Tichy offers as an HO scale plastic kit?
 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 

On Nov 10, 2022, at 2:48 PM, Hugh Guillaume via groups.io <mguill1224@...> wrote:

Sunshine Models Kit #5.1 NYC 52'6" War Emergency Gondola with Composite Sides.  I built one years ago, still have it.  In the 50's Ulrich offered a very similar kit.
 

 
Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Tony Thompson
 

sunshine did offer a kit for a 41' war emergency gondola.

So does F&C, if you’re talking about the car I think you are.

Tony Thompson
Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Kenneth Montero
 

Eric,

No, rhe Tichy kit is for a 52' long gondola.

sunshine did offer a kit for a 41' war emergency gondola.

Ken Montero

On 11/10/2022 4:45 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Is that the same one Tichy offers as an HO scale plastic kit?


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On Nov 10, 2022, at 2:48 PM, Hugh Guillaume via groups.io <mguill1224@...> wrote:

Sunshine Models Kit #5.1 NYC 52'6" War Emergency Gondola with Composite Sides.  I built one years ago, still have it.  In the 50's Ulrich offered a very similar kit.

Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Eric Hansmann
 

Is that the same one Tichy offers as an HO scale plastic kit?

On Nov 10, 2022, at 2:48 PM, Hugh Guillaume via groups.io <mguill1224@...> wrote:

Sunshine Models Kit #5.1 NYC 52'6" War Emergency Gondola with Composite Sides.  I built one years ago, still have it.  In the 50's Ulrich offered a very similar kit.

Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Hugh Guillaume
 

Sunshine Models Kit #5.1 NYC 52'6" War Emergency Gondola with Composite Sides.  I built one years ago, still have it.  In the 50's Ulrich offered a very similar kit.
Re: Question about 40 ft. gondolas

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 12:37 PM, Ken Adams wrote:
A good selection of resin or 3D print alternate ends to adapt the Accurail cars would be nice too.
Bill Welch used to point out that the improved Dreadnaught ends from the Details Associates GS gon kits would fit the Accurail car, which has the pre-war Dreadnaught ends, but I never tried it. The only other ends that would be appropriate would be "reverse" Dreadnaught, which I think only the C&NW used on one group of cars. In fact, that road had all three styles of ends on different batches of these cars. There are photos in the May and June 2005 issues of Mainline Modeler.

Dennis Storzek
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