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Re: 1935 wreck on the Rutland - photos

David Smith
 

I've been poking around through the archives, but haven't found a clear answer. Am I correct in assuming that these would have stayed on home rails while in milk service? I found info that they wandered widely once they were converted to express cars, but nothing about whether they roamed about while in milk service. Thanks,
Dave


Photo: Rock Island Automobile Boxcar 59074 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Rock Island Automobile Boxcar 59074 (Undated)

Cropped photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website.

Taken at Oklahoma City.

Double-sheathed car.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Western Maryland hoppers

naptownprr
 

I agree with Chilcote; it would be a good idea to contact the WMRHS about the hopper cars.  Eric is a good moeler, but he models an era much earlier than most of the folks who follow this list.  For example, I model 1951.

Jim Hunter

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There is another possible reason for black car color on the early WM hopper fleet.
 
The WM was owned by the Gould Syndicate for several years in the early 20th century. The W&LE and Wheeling-Pittsburgh Terminal (predecessor of the P&WV) were also Gould properties. The Syndicate was planning to connect the WM with the W-PT as part of a transcontinental connection with their western lines. As far as I know, the W&LE and W-PT hopper and gondola car color was black. Why would the WM cars be painted differently from other Gould owned lines?
 
The discussion time frame of the realSTMFC list runs from 1900 to 1960. Black Western Maryland hoppers would have been running for one third of our discussion period.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 

On 09/05/2022 9:50 AM CDT Adam Chilcote <achilcote94@...> wrote:
 
 
I'm 95% sure WMRHS has found documentation of cars painted black in the teens and 20s. Of course you could still argue that maybe they were supposed to be black on paper, and turned out red, but that's highly unlikely!
 

 


Re: Great Northern Stock Car 55756

Jim Betz
 

Lester,
  Excellent - both the car itself -and- the blog entry documenting what you did to
produce it.  Thanks!

  I have two questions.  First - it seems, from the pics, that the ends of the car
are just a tad shiny compared to the sides and roof.  Is that just a trick of the
lighting for the picture?
  Second - have you ever tried using a dry brush technique to add just a touch
of color to the details (such as the grabs and ladders) that is a few subtle shades
different from the car body color ... in order to make them just ever so more
noticeable?

  I liked your coverage of the underbody.  It made me want to say - don't paint it
because you can't see the details after they are painted.  *G*  As both a
modeler and 'researcher' I wanted to -see- the underbody as much as have it
be the correct look for a finished car. 

  Very NICE car - thanks for posting the link.
                                                                                                - Jim in the PNW


Re: Archer Transfers Quitting business

Eric Hansmann
 

Need to play catch up and fulfill the demand!
 
 
B&O Eric
In TN
 
 

On 09/01/2022 8:12 PM CDT Eric Hiser <ehiser27@...> wrote:
 
 

Well, going out of business appears to be good business as Archer states that “due to overwhelming response to our inventory liquidation sale we are temporarily not accepting orders….”

 

AT&SF Eric

 


Re: Western Maryland hoppers

Eric Hansmann
 

There is another possible reason for black car color on the early WM hopper fleet.
 
The WM was owned by the Gould Syndicate for several years in the early 20th century. The W&LE and Wheeling-Pittsburgh Terminal (predecessor of the P&WV) were also Gould properties. The Syndicate was planning to connect the WM with the W-PT as part of a transcontinental connection with their western lines. As far as I know, the W&LE and W-PT hopper and gondola car color was black. Why would the WM cars be painted differently from other Gould owned lines?
 
The discussion time frame of the realSTMFC list runs from 1900 to 1960. Black Western Maryland hoppers would have been running for one third of our discussion period.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 

On 09/05/2022 9:50 AM CDT Adam Chilcote <achilcote94@...> wrote:
 
 
I'm 95% sure WMRHS has found documentation of cars painted black in the teens and 20s. Of course you could still argue that maybe they were supposed to be black on paper, and turned out red, but that's highly unlikely!
 

 


Southern Railway Wooden Trestle Plans

Allen Cain
 

Does anyone have drawings of the wooden trestles that the Southern constructed in the 1950s (and earlier) to go across low marshes and swamp areas?  These were typically not very tall.  I would like to scratchbuild a couple.
 
Or, is there a good HO stand-in kit available?
 
--
Allen Cain
Modeling The Southern RR in 1955 in HO Scale


Re: D&RGW stock car kits

nyc3001 .
 

Richard, 131.1 has a Duryea underframe while 131.4 has an AAR underframe.

-Phil Lee


Great Northern Stock Car 55756

Lester Breuer
 

built and upgraded a Great Northern (GN) stock car kit.  I built the Accurail GN  stock single deck stock car in GN class SM that I numbered 55756.  The Accurail kit is a excellent match for GN prototype.  Upgrade includes carving off molded on parts, adding wire grab irons & ladder rungs, etc.  If you are interested in the build of  Great Northern stock car 55756, photos and write up of the build process including painting mineral red, lettering from various sources and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and information of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer
Plymouth, MN


Re: Western Maryland hoppers

Adam Chilcote
 

I'm 95% sure WMRHS has found documentation of cars painted black in the teens and 20s. Of course you could still argue that maybe they were supposed to be black on paper, and turned out red, but that's highly unlikely!


Re: T&P paint scheme

Bill Pannell
 

The Protocraft site states the Diamod logos were added in early 1950`s repaints - see link 
Protocraft

Bill


Re: T&P paint scheme

Bill Pannell
 

John,
I can't find that info in any of my references,  all the pictures I have of that series is after your modeling date but I will keep digging. In the mean time here is the layout page for that series, it shows the logo.

Bill


Re: Archer Transfers Quitting business

Eric Hiser
 

Well, going out of business appears to be good business as Archer states that “due to overwhelming response to our inventory liquidation sale we are temporarily not accepting orders….”

 

AT&SF Eric


Re: D&RGW stock car kits

Richard Bale <Rhbale@...>
 

To Pierre Oliver
 
Hello Pierre..
 
Please clarify the difference between YMW 131.1 and YMW 131.4.
Thanks for your help.
 
Richard Bale
Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine.
 

In a message dated 8/6/2022 11:16:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, pierre.oliver@... writes:
 

Good day all
The D&RGW stock car kits are now on the website,
 
and available for purchase
 
--
Pierre Oliver
 
 
 
 
 


Bay Terminal Tank Cars c. 1940s-1950s?

nyc3001 .
 

While reading through the consists on canadasouthern.com, I found that Bay Terminal tank cars (reporting mark BT) were apparently sometimes seen in NYC trains on the Toledo and Lake Divisions and were routed at least as far west as Minneapolis and at least as far east as Pittsburgh. So modeling one is of some interest.

The question is, what were they? I can't find any record of the types of tank cars BT used during the transition era (although they apparently owned 325 in 1950s). The closest resource I've been able to find is a 1917 document in which BT uses a variety of tank cars owned by different companies.

https://www.labellemodels.com/manuals/Bay%20Terminal.pdf

Does anyone have any insight into the BT tank cars of the transition era or photos?

-Phil Lee


Re: Steam Era Models for Sale - Update!

Mark Rossiter
 

All: Please be advised that due to an overwhelming response, most of the resin kits have already been spoken for!  I have been promised an updated list of what is available.  

Mark


Re: Photo: SP Klamath Falls Yard

Ted Larson
 

My recollection is hearing that the Siskiyou line was quite torturous, hence the alternate route.  Even Amtrak takes the alternate route.  Rode it many years ago from Seattle to Oakland.  

Ted Larson

--
Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


Steam Era Models for Sale

Mark Rossiter
 

A local model railroader passed away recently leaving behind a large collection of HO scale brass and plastic locomotives and rolling stock.  There is also a sizeable number of unbuilt resin kits from Funaro and Camerlengo, Sunshine Models and Speedwitch Media and several smaller resin kit manufacturers. Many of the models are from the steam era.  The resin kits in particular are going for very reasonable prices!  

A member of the local NMRA organization is helping the family to dispose of this collection.  If you have an interest in the list of models for sale, please contact me OFF LIST at: mrossiter327 ‘at’ gmail.com for the list and contact information for the person handling the sales.  


Mark Rossiter


Re: 1935 wreck on the Rutland - photos

Mark Rossiter
 

Close, but no cigar!  The lettering on the car in the photo indicates this is Rutland #304, which Railworks also imported a version of.  See this listing instead:

https://www.brasstrains.com/BrassGuide/Pdg/Detail/36967/HO-Rolling-Stock-Railworks-LTD-R-319-Rutland-MILK-CAR

 

Mark Rossiter

 

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Re: Western Maryland hoppers

Philip Dove
 

Until l saw the Eiffel tower in reality l had always assumed it was black, but it is actually a sort of freight car red. My brother who vhas visited Paris many times in the last 30 years says it's been that colour all the times he has seen it. Even on photoes l took with my phone often look black, perhaps the same phenomenon is happening with WM cars. Are no Western Marland workers still alive to be asked?