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Re: Munshaw Canada slide Canadian Pacific CPR dock yard scene

Bruce Smith
 

Glen,

That's a little too absolutist. In fact, the practice of treating with lime was not as widespread in the US as it was in Canada, where it was required, as has been noted earlier in this thread, and most US stock cars did not show this off white band. On the Canadian stock cars in question the off-white was painted on the car. While it may, or may not, have been designed to "hide" the effects of lime treatment, it certainly wasn't caused by it. I will also remind you that typically, the inside of the car was the concern, not the outside, and so profligate use of lime so that it coated the exterior bottom half of the car would have been grossly wasteful. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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The bottom of stock card is treated by lime when cleaning so the colour disappears very quickly and becomes a chalky white colour
Glen


On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 


Strasburg 2 Rail O Scale train show Saturday August 6th

Rich Yoder
 

Hi Modelers.

Our second O Scale train show and swap meet is only 5 days away.

Saturday morning doors open to the public at 9:00.

We have two collections being brought to the show and countless other goodies from other one day table holder. Not to mention dealers;

Jack McGarry - Allegheny Scale Models - NJ

Bob and Karen Lavezzi – All About Trains from NJ

Rich Slajda – SLAJ Trains – from Connecticut

Bob Heil  - Sunset Models

and many other table holder make up the group of weekend warriors.

In addition to this the usual good PA Dutch cooking.

Just Click on the link below to print out a flyer or copy and paste it into your web browser

Or click on the link or copy and paste for location information for Location information.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Strasburg+Fire+House/@39.9769623,-76.2001322,13.33z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x89b11138c79e91c9:0xe72103691aa540f9!2s203+W+Franklin+St,+Richmond,+VA+23220!3b1!8m2!3d37.5449285!4d-77.4458285!3m4!1s0x89c63a1be7955555:0x812a11984b835cc2!8m2!3d39.9816906!4d-76.1855638?hl=en

 

 

Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

7 Edgedale Court

Wyomissing PA 19610-1913

Phone 484-256-4068 after 5:30 pm until 9:00 pm EST

https://www.richyodermodels.com/show_flyer.pdf


Re: Munshaw Canada slide Canadian Pacific CPR dock yard scene

Glen Presley
 

The bottom of stock card is treated by lime when cleaning so the colour disappears very quickly and becomes a chalky white colour
Glen


On Jul 31, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Alexander Schneider Jr <aschneiderjr@...> wrote:

Could someone explain why the bottom 2/3 of the stock cars was gray and the top 1/3 red? If this was lime or something similar used as a disinfectant, should we be doing something similar on stock cars of other roads?

Hey, I'm a city guy. :)

Alex Schneider

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 11:48 AM, Steven D Johnson
<tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 


Re: Need Bob's Photo contact info

Greg Davis
 

Hey Jim,

Bob is here at the St. Louis RPM meet and I can check with him tomorrow. I certainly want to see what he has for Murphy and other stations along the branch.

Thanks!
Greg Davis
Marble,NC/St Pete, FL


On Jul 29, 2022, at 9:22 PM, Jim King <jimking3@...> wrote:



What is current phone number, email, etc. for Bob’s Photo?  I’m trying to locate some Southern Ry Murphy Branch station pix … I bought several 8x10s at an RPM about 3-4 years ago and wanted to know if he has other negs yet to be printed.

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


Re: Photo: Erie Depressed Center Flat Car 99032

Mike Bradley
 

Hi,

I cannot recall the type of trucks that are on this car.  Can anyone provide that information and, OBTW does anyone make this truck in HO?  (I'm wondering if  it was made by Red Ball or Cape Line at one time.)

Thank You
Mike Bradley
Sharpsville, PA


Re: AAR 40' Boxcar ID

Jim Pattison
 

That is a helpful ton of information. Thanks for posting.
Jim Pattison

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AAR 40' Boxcar ID

Hi Gary--Go here for all of Ed Hawkins' post war AAR 40' boxcar lists.

http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/postwaraarmain.html

I agree with Tim on the 7' door 10 panel car. There were no 12 panel cars on
the PRR.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: AAR 40' Boxcar ID

pennsylvania1954
 

Hi Gary--Go here for all of Ed Hawkins' post war AAR 40' boxcar lists.

http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/postwaraarmain.html

I agree with Tim on the 7' door 10 panel car. There were no 12 panel cars on the PRR.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: AAR 40' Boxcar ID

Gary McMills
 

Thanks Tim


Gary McMills


On 2022-08-04 18:43, Tim O'Connor wrote:


Ed has produced MANY box car rosters so the one that you want is Ed's compilation
of AAR Postwar R+3-4 IDN (1948-1954) tabloid format, or Excel spreadsheet format.

Modelers and railfans love to make lists and tables! :-)
 
I just checked and I have 1,338
PDF files and 167 Excel spreadsheets in my data folder. :-D

The PRR X43B is perfect for the first car, 7ft door 10p DP roof R+3/4

On 8/4/2022 6:30 PM, Gary McMills wrote:

Hi All,

I recently pickup some HO scale C&BT  1944 AAR 40' Boxcar kits at an estate sale and I am at a loss for identifying which railroad(s) owned them.

They are one with a 7' door and 10 panel sides with Angle roof and 4-3-1 ends.

Also a 7'door 12 panel sides with a flat roof and is Tuscan red (perhaps PRR?)

and a 8' door 12 panel sides car , 10 panel sides, flat roof, and 4-3-1 ends.

 I have Ed Hawkins Steam Era Freight car list but I am still having difficulties ID ing these cars.

I would like to find the prototype railroad for these  cars.

They are undecorated.

thanks,

Gary McMills

Vicksburg,Miss.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: AAR 40' Boxcar ID

Tim O'Connor
 


Ed has produced MANY box car rosters so the one that you want is Ed's compilation
of AAR Postwar R+3-4 IDN (1948-1954) tabloid format, or Excel spreadsheet format.

Modelers and railfans love to make lists and tables! :-)
 
I just checked and I have 1,338
PDF files and 167 Excel spreadsheets in my data folder. :-D

The PRR X43B is perfect for the first car, 7ft door 10p DP roof R+3/4

On 8/4/2022 6:30 PM, Gary McMills wrote:

Hi All,

I recently pickup some HO scale C&BT  1944 AAR 40' Boxcar kits at an estate sale and I am at a loss for identifying which railroad(s) owned them.

They are one with a 7' door and 10 panel sides with Angle roof and 4-3-1 ends.

Also a 7'door 12 panel sides with a flat roof and is Tuscan red (perhaps PRR?)

and a 8' door 12 panel sides car , 10 panel sides, flat roof, and 4-3-1 ends.

 I have Ed Hawkins Steam Era Freight car list but I am still having difficulties ID ing these cars.

I would like to find the prototype railroad for these  cars.

They are undecorated.

thanks,

Gary McMills

Vicksburg,Miss.



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


AAR 40' Boxcar ID

Gary McMills
 

Hi All,

I recently pickup some HO scale C&BT  1944 AAR 40' Boxcar kits at an estate sale and I am at a loss for identifying which railroad(s) owned them.

They are one with a 7' door and 10 panel sides with Angle roof and 4-3-1 ends.

Also a 7'door 12 panel sides with a flat roof and is Tuscan red (perhaps PRR?)

and a 8' door 12 panel sides car , 10 panel sides, flat roof, and 4-3-1 ends.

 I have Ed Hawkins Steam Era Freight car list but I am still having difficulties ID ing these cars.

I would like to find the prototype railroad for these  cars.

They are undecorated.

thanks,

Gary McMills

Vicksburg,Miss.


Re: Photo: Receiving International Harvester Crawlers At The Great Northern Paper Company

Rich Gibson
 

1939 timetable. I don’t have a more recent one without doing some digging. The picture must be 1951 given the combination of a red-white-blue boxcar and steam. 


Rich Gibson


Re: Loading Cattle Miles City, MT

Scott
 

Would those cattle be considered feeders?  They seem pretty thin.

Scott McDonald 


Re: Photo: Loading Pulpwood For The Great Northern Paper Company (1952)

akerboomk
 

Those big ones at the bottom look like a lot of "fun" to load
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Northeastern Scale Lumber Siding

Spen Kellogg
 

Ray,
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but what I have is:

116SCR132P

It is 1/16" scribed,1/32" thick, 11" long and 3" wide. The scribing runs the long way.

Spen Kellogg


Re: Photo: Receiving International Harvester Crawlers At The Great Northern Paper Company

Guy Wilber
 

 Bob Chaparro wrote:, Guy Wilber wrote:
"Cable was used only to secure "rotating" shovels and cranes -- little to nothing more.
Perhaps you are addressing requirements. There are many pre-1961 photos of flat car loads secured by wire."

Bob, perhaps you should read my post again.  I wrote; You wrote; "Other than the blocking the crawlers don’t seem to be secured by and cables or chains."  I responded by writing; "The blocking on the dozers featured within the photo is spot on for the period...chocked only...NO chain, NO cable or wire."   Again, chain was not used at all to secure loads (other than logs) and cable was used for a minimum of applications during the time frame of this list.   The requirements for securing crawler type tractors didn't include wire securement until the revisions issued (via supplement) in May of  1947.  You see, I am quite aware that wire was used to secure open top loads prior to 1961.       

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada  


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Photo: Loading Pulpwood For The Great Northern Paper Company (1952)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading Pulpwood For The Great Northern Paper Company (1952)

Photos courtesy of James Perz on the Facebook Great Northern Paper Company Employees group.

A side-discharge car (hopper or gondola?) and a boxcar.

Employees logging-in before the age of personal computers.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Receiving International Harvester Crawlers At The Great Northern Paper Company

Andy Carlson
 

I asked Richard Yaremko, whose hobby-in-the-hobby of model railroading is flat cars with loads. He thinks the flat car closest to the lens is a CB&Q car.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 07:10:25 PM PDT, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote: That is a very unusual uncoupling lever on the flatcar with what appears to be a third eye bolt attached to the casting housing  the coupler.  Any ideas which road had that style of flatcar uncoupling levers?

 

Photo: Receiving International Harvester Crawlers At The Great Northern Paper Company

Photo courtesy of James Perz on the Facebook Great Northern Paper Company Employees group.

Flat car is unidentified.

Other than the blocking the crawlers don’t seem to be secured by and cables or chains.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Northeastern Scale Lumber Siding

Ray Hutchison
 

I was looking to order Northeastern Scale Lumber HO car siding from our local hobby shop, but was not able to locate specific information at the Northeastern website.  I am hoping that someone would be able to send along information as to stock number of this (usual packet is two pieces I think 6" x 2').

(Fleet of 36' GN Boxcars to follow...)

Ray Hutchison
Green Bay, WI


Re: Photo: Receiving International Harvester Crawlers At The Great Northern Paper Company

Bob Chaparro
 

Eric Kurowski commented:

“My AAR top load manual shows crawler equipment had bolts though the track that went through the deck. It was one of many acceptable ways.”

Unfortunately, he didn’t cite the year for the manual.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Receiving International Harvester Crawlers At The Great Northern Paper Company

Tim O'Connor
 


Cool. What year is that timetable for ?

I think the trip is much shorter for birds. But I could beat the train on my bicycle. :-D

On 8/4/2022 9:41 AM, Rich Gibson via groups.io wrote:

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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