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Re: Photo: ACL Ventilated Boxcar 37853 With Live Bees Load (Undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Bob, Ben, and List Members,


When I was in mainland China in 1989 in my rail travels I saw at least two separate examples of beehives mounted on railroad flat cars. I assume the flat cars together with the hives were moved for one area to another to follow the blooming plant life. So why not have the same concept here in the USA?


Claus Schlund



On 18-Aug-22 13:14, Benjamin Hom wrote:

Bob Chaparro asked:
"This is a new one on me. Bees?"

Why not?  We keep forgetting that the railroads were often the only decent means to ship any cargo over mid-to-long distances, whether via carload, less-than-carload, or Railway Express.  A ventilated boxcar would be a appropriate means to ship multiple colonies of bees.

Even today, small packages of bees can be mailed via USPS Ground, and queens and attendants can be shipped by air.


Ben Hom


Re: Fw: Save the date

Brian Carlson
 

It’s a save the date for 2023. Show some patience y’all. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Aug 18, 2022, at 4:06 PM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

Signup link?

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Fw: Save the date

 

Signup link?

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
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On Aug 18, 2022, at 12:42 PM, J. Craig Whitcomb <pikecaro@...> wrote:

Where do I sign up?

Jan Whitcomb


On Aug 18, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:



Pencil me in

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 8/18/22 3:08 p.m., william darnaby wrote:


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Subject: Save the date

All

 

I sign a contract with the NIU conference center for Friday and Saturday, October 27 and 28, 2023. We’ll have the eastern part of the first floor, except for the auditorium, and the four tiered classrooms upstairs. The first floor space adds up to over 12,000 square feet which I hope is enough. We can set things up on Thursday after 7:00 pm. Cost is under $10,000. 250 attendees at $45 each would cover it. So we can call this again the Naperville RPM and it’s on the weekend that Martin had it on.

 

We’ll also have a gift for the first 100 to sign up.

 

Frank

 

 


Looking for GA drawings for 1923 XM-1 boxcar.

Charlie Duckworth
 

Tried a google search and all I got back was the Abrams tank images.  

Started on the F&C L&N XM-1 boxcar but his instructions leave a little to much to the modeler’s imagination.  Found I’d squirreled away a Speedwitch decal set for this kit too.

I haven’t bought an F&C boxcar for a while and picked the One piece body kit at RPM.  It’s nicely made but decals are poorly printed.  

thanks,
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Save the date

Tony Thompson
 

I sign a contract with the NIU conference center for Friday and Saturday, October 27 and 28, 2023. We’ll have the eastern part of the first floor, except for the auditorium, and the four tiered classrooms upstairs. The first floor space adds up to over 12,000 square feet which I hope is enough. We can set things up on Thursday after 7:00 pm. Cost is under $10,000. 250 attendees at $45 each would cover it. So we can call this again the Naperville RPM and it’s on the weekend that Martin had it on.

I will certainly be there next year! Great work, Frank!

Tony Thompson





Re: Fw: Save the date

J. Craig Whitcomb
 

Where do I sign up?

Jan Whitcomb


On Aug 18, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:



Pencil me in

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 8/18/22 3:08 p.m., william darnaby wrote:


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Frank Hodina <fhodina@...>
To: Tom Madden <tcmadden@q.com>; Eric Hansmann (eric@...) <eric@...>; 'Steve Hile' <shile@...>; rbreyer@... <rbreyer@...>; Ray Breyer (rtbsvrr69@...) <rtbsvrr69@...>; ksoroos@... <ksoroos@...>; hammersr@... <hammersr@...>; drdavecampbell@... <drdavecampbell@...>; Tony Koester <nkpfan@...>; John Golden (Golden1014@...) <golden1014@...>; Mike Skibbe <mskibbe@...>; ROBERT F KOSIC <rk6416@...>; Bob Kosic 1 <rkosic@...>; 'Jeremy Dummler' <jkdummler@...>; 'Harz Sondericker' <harzmsondericker@...>; William Darnaby <wdarnaby@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 09:18:43 AM CDT
Subject: Save the date

All

 

I sign a contract with the NIU conference center for Friday and Saturday, October 27 and 28, 2023. We’ll have the eastern part of the first floor, except for the auditorium, and the four tiered classrooms upstairs. The first floor space adds up to over 12,000 square feet which I hope is enough. We can set things up on Thursday after 7:00 pm. Cost is under $10,000. 250 attendees at $45 each would cover it. So we can call this again the Naperville RPM and it’s on the weekend that Martin had it on.

 

We’ll also have a gift for the first 100 to sign up.

 

Frank

 

 


Re: Photo: ACL Ventilated Boxcar 37853 With Live Bees Load (Undated)

Jerry Michels
 

Today bees are transported all over the country in semi's.  Every so often you see news of a wreck involving a semi carrying bees. I am sure it is not a pleasant wreck for the highway patrol to respond to! Regardless, the photo is great!
Jerry Michels


Re: Fw: Save the date

Pierre Oliver
 

Pencil me in

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 8/18/22 3:08 p.m., william darnaby wrote:



----- Forwarded Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 09:18:43 AM CDT
Subject: Save the date

All

 

I sign a contract with the NIU conference center for Friday and Saturday, October 27 and 28, 2023. We’ll have the eastern part of the first floor, except for the auditorium, and the four tiered classrooms upstairs. The first floor space adds up to over 12,000 square feet which I hope is enough. We can set things up on Thursday after 7:00 pm. Cost is under $10,000. 250 attendees at $45 each would cover it. So we can call this again the Naperville RPM and it’s on the weekend that Martin had it on.

 

We’ll also have a gift for the first 100 to sign up.

 

Frank

 

 


Re: Atomic Waste Shipments 1950s

Louie B. Hydrick
 

Greetings,

SCL 666 was the former ACL 666 alluded to by Tim O'Conner.  It was used to move usable radioactive material, not waste.  It move in regular passenger trains with it's own guards. 


Louie B. Hydrick
Associate Broker
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Evans  GA  30809-3261

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Re: Save the date

Peter Hall
 

Frank, et al, 

That is excellent news.  Many thanks for taking the initiative on all our behalf(s).  Note, I see this is for 2023, which is next year.  I hope by then all our pandemic problems are behind us.

Thanks
Pete

On Aug 18, 2022, at 2:08 PM, william darnaby <wdarnaby@...> wrote:



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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 09:18:43 AM CDT
Subject: Save the date

All

 

I sign a contract with the NIU conference center for Friday and Saturday, October 27 and 28, 2023. We’ll have the eastern part of the first floor, except for the auditorium, and the four tiered classrooms upstairs. The first floor space adds up to over 12,000 square feet which I hope is enough. We can set things up on Thursday after 7:00 pm. Cost is under $10,000. 250 attendees at $45 each would cover it. So we can call this again the Naperville RPM and it’s on the weekend that Martin had it on.

 

We’ll also have a gift for the first 100 to sign up.

 

Frank

 
 
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Fw: Save the date

william darnaby
 



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Cc: 'fhodina@...' <fhodina@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 09:18:43 AM CDT
Subject: Save the date

All

 

I sign a contract with the NIU conference center for Friday and Saturday, October 27 and 28, 2023. We’ll have the eastern part of the first floor, except for the auditorium, and the four tiered classrooms upstairs. The first floor space adds up to over 12,000 square feet which I hope is enough. We can set things up on Thursday after 7:00 pm. Cost is under $10,000. 250 attendees at $45 each would cover it. So we can call this again the Naperville RPM and it’s on the weekend that Martin had it on.

 

We’ll also have a gift for the first 100 to sign up.

 

Frank

 

 


Date photos from freight cars

Marty McGuirk
 

Both of these images show the Enosburg Falls, Vermont condensary at two different times - The image with the GTW reefer is the building after it had been modified with an updated water tank and chimney. I’m trying to narrow down the dates these images may have been taken. 

Any clues from the freight cars as to when these photos may have 

Thanks in advance, 

Marty McGuirk


Re: Photo: ACL Ventilated Boxcar 37853 With Live Bees Load (Undated)

Robert kirkham
 

The car has interesting roof fasteners.  The ends look familiar, but the number per “panel” surprises me.

Rob 

On Aug 18, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Bob Chaparro asked:
"This is a new one on me. Bees?"

Why not?  We keep forgetting that the railroads were often the only decent means to ship any cargo over mid-to-long distances, whether via carload, less-than-carload, or Railway Express.  A ventilated boxcar would be a appropriate means to ship multiple colonies of bees.

Even today, small packages of bees can be mailed via USPS Ground, and queens and attendants can be shipped by air.


Ben Hom

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Re: Photo: ACL Ventilated Boxcar 37853 With Live Bees Load (Undated)

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro asked:
"This is a new one on me. Bees?"

Why not?  We keep forgetting that the railroads were often the only decent means to ship any cargo over mid-to-long distances, whether via carload, less-than-carload, or Railway Express.  A ventilated boxcar would be a appropriate means to ship multiple colonies of bees.

Even today, small packages of bees can be mailed via USPS Ground, and queens and attendants can be shipped by air.


Ben Hom


Photo: ACL Ventilated Boxcar 37853 With Live Bees Load (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: ACL Ventilated Boxcar 37853 With Live Bees Load (Undated)

Photo from the Facebook Train Pictures With Chaotic Auras group.

The smaller placard also reads, “Live Bees”.

This is a new one on me. Bees?

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Re: Atomic Waste Shipments 1950s

james murrie
 

There were several cars, basically modified baggage cars, used by several railroads. They ran in regularly scheduled passenger trains.  For example MILW 1046 (if I remember correctly) was a 70ft heavyweight express car that ran weekly between Oak Ridge TN to Hanford WA with radioactive material. Normally ran in "The Columbian", Tr. 17/18 from Chicago and cut out to go down the branch line to Hanford reservation. 

In 1961 L&N had four surplus 10-3 sleeping cars modified to baggage dorms or use by Atomic Energy Commission which were renumbered 1650-1653. Only indication of use was "Return to Oak Ridge in small letters.

And there was also SCL 666 which ran Savannah to Rocky Flats CO.

Jim Murrie


Re: Atomic Waste Shipments 1950s

Tim O'Connor
 


If I recall there was Atlantic Coast Line baggage car involved in nuclear materials transport
that was seen on its way to Denver, presumably something to do with the Rocky Flats plant.
No idea if it was waste (doubtful imo). In general, I don't think much waste was moved around,
and states have vigorously fought being used as dumping grounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Operation



On 8/18/2022 10:58 AM, Robert G P wrote:

Hello all,

Id like to ask how Atomic Waste was shipped on the nation's RR's in the 1950s? 

I know the Atomic Energy Commission had their own cars and these were manifested into regular freights. 

Does anyone have pictures from the late 40's to the late '50s? 

This sounds like a neat operation. 

Thanks as always,
-Bob

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Atomic Waste Shipments 1950s

Robert G P
 

Hello all,

Id like to ask how Atomic Waste was shipped on the nation's RR's in the 1950s? 

I know the Atomic Energy Commission had their own cars and these were manifested into regular freights. 

Does anyone have pictures from the late 40's to the late '50s? 

This sounds like a neat operation. 

Thanks as always,
-Bob 


Re: Collinsville Photos

frograbbit602
 

Steve Thank You for sharing your photos.

Lester Breuer


Re: Collinsville Photos

frograbbit602
 

Dick Thank You for sharing your photos.

Lester Breuer