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Re: Some AC&F history lost

Bob Chaparro
 

I was on the NMRA Convention tour of one of the Terminal Railroad Association's yards when this fire broke out. The intense smoke drifted right over our heads and the flames were visible from where we were.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Some AC&F history lost

Jeffrey White
 

Tim,

There was a recycling business there now.  Most of that plant has been gone for years.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/videos/watch-now-smoke-from-metro-east-recycling-plant-fire-seen-for-miles/video_cd6e22f7-5f2d-53a3-b16a-642bb1ef0c16.html?recip_id=177683

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 8/12/2022 5:49 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


WOW - what a fire !! I hope no records were lost.


On 8/11/2022 10:19 PM, MDelvec952 via groups.io wrote:
This week one of the former AC&F century-old buildings near St. Louis caught fire. TRRA traffic was halted to lay hose.

Photo by Tyler Sneed.

Mike Del Vecchio

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Some AC&F history lost

Tim O'Connor
 


WOW - what a fire !! I hope no records were lost.


On 8/11/2022 10:19 PM, MDelvec952 via groups.io wrote:

This week one of the former AC&F century-old buildings near St. Louis caught fire. TRRA traffic was halted to lay hose.

Photo by Tyler Sneed.

Mike Del Vecchio

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Bob Chapman
 

First -- thanks to all for the encouragement!

John Golden asks:
1) Can you tell us a little more about the prototype? Who built these cars, and were similar types built for other companies?
2) Are the decals the new ones from K4?


John:
1) I have little native knowledge of these cars, but there's quite a bit of background along the lines you ask in the four references listed in the original post.
2) Yes, the decals are K4. They are slightly oversized (obvious when comparing their length vs. prototype photos), but otherwise very nicely done. Not something I'm losing sleep over. 

Regards,
Bob Chapman


Some AC&F history lost

MDelvec952
 




This week one of the former AC&F century-old buildings near St. Louis caught fire. TRRA traffic was halted to lay hose.

Photo by Tyler Sneed.


Westerfield kits for sale

Robert Heninger
 

I have the following Westerfield Models kits which I am selling as a lot:
 
1252 PRR G22b gondola
3301 USRA single sheathed boxcar, GET lettering (dimensional data only)
3320 MEC USRA single sheathed boxcar
5351 NWP/SP/T&NO S-40-5 stock car
8102 USRA mill gondola, NYC/PMcK&Y
8153 USRA mill gondola, NYC/P&LE
8155 USRA mill gondola, PRR G25b
8854 MP stock car
10157 Rutland 1924 double sheathed boxcar
10752 Modernized NYC stock car
11552 ATSF Sk-L/-M/-P stock car
12101 RI B-2 stock car conversion
12561 UP/LA&SL S-40-1 stock car
12663 SP S-40-2 stock car
12763 UP/OSL S-40-3 stock car
 
I am asking $300 for the lot, shipping included. That's less than $20 a kit. Please reply off-list to gn2059@... if you are interested. Thank you.
 
Regards,
Bob Heninger
Minot, ND


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Paul Doggett
 

Bob 

That’s a really nice looking model.

Paul Doggett 


On 11 Aug 2022, at 16:17, golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hey Bob, I forgot to ask--what decals did you use?  Did you use the new set from K4?  John Golden


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

golden1014
 

Hey Bob, I forgot to ask--what decals did you use?  Did you use the new set from K4?  John Golden


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

golden1014
 

Bob, this is really great work.  Very inspiring!  Can you tell us a little more about the prototype?  Who built these cars, and were similar types built for other companies?

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Frank Hodina
 

Gorgeous model! Do plan on releasing a kit of this car sometime next year. Retiring in February and after that it's full time RCW. Have general arrangement and brake arrangement drawings fron the National Museum of Transportation for the 1946 ACF built cars, Lot 2847, in the 5701-5850 series. And yes the cars had wood framing tied together with steel rods. The general arrangement surprise is that these cars had plywood roof sheathing.

Frank Hodina
Resin Car Works


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Robert Allan
 

Nice improvements to a modest kit.

Bob Allan
Omaha


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Clark Propst
 

Outstanding!
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Preferred truck mounting on resin cars

Mark Vinski
 

When I need a special size head on a truck screw I run a 2-56 nut tight against the screw head, chuck the screw in a Dremel tool or lathe, then file or machine the nut to the required diameter.

Mark


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

nyc3001 .
 

You've made me want to dig out that article again. iirc there were over 600 CRLX reefers like this with similar dimensions.

Frank Hodina said some time ago that this car is planned as a future RCW release. I'm looking forward to that.

-Phil Lee


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

O Fenton Wells
 

Well done Bob, great looking car
Fenton


Re: Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Brian Carlson
 

That came out nice! 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Aug 10, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Bob Chapman <chapbob4014@...> wrote:


Back mid-July, I posted a question about the prototype represented by the Branchline 36' reefer kit that I had in my stash. I learned that with added detail the kit could prototype-model the Cudahy 1946 #5701-5850 meat reefer,  was pointed to a Richard Hendrickson RMC article on the project (5/93), and learned that the BL kit had MDC origins. Thanks to all who responded -- Brian Carlson, Joe Binish, Fenton Wells, Robert Heninger, Dan Smith, Clark Propst, and Steve Hile.

Other references which offered additional prototype photos and comments -- MR 8/87, MM 3/92, Steam Era Freight Car Reference Manual Vol 3, Classic Freight Cars Vol. 3.  

Despite its 1946 build date, the Cudahy car is a design throwback with many 1920's features -- 36' length, wooden carbody, etc. It has some interesting details -- a recessed retainer valve, an angle brace running much of the length of the sidesill, body-brace boltheads at the corners, Acme ventilators (upper-center on each end), and National B-1 trucks.

Richard once again demonstrates his eye for detail and excellent modeling in the RMC article, and anyone else doing the project will find it a valuable reference. Note that his starting point is a truss-rodded MDC "old timer" reefer, which has some carbody differences (roof, hatches, underbody) vs. my later-era non-truss rod MDC kit. I followed much of Richard's lead, but deviated here and there, such as scratchbuilding the ends and retaining the diecast underframe. Decals are K4 and trucks Kadee.   

With my stash of resin kits now running on empty, I continue to have fun reinventing some of the vintage styrene kits.

Regards,
Bob Chapman
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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Cudahy 36' Meat Reefer -- Branchline (MDC)

Bob Chapman
 

Back mid-July, I posted a question about the prototype represented by the Branchline 36' reefer kit that I had in my stash. I learned that with added detail the kit could prototype-model the Cudahy 1946 #5701-5850 meat reefer,  was pointed to a Richard Hendrickson RMC article on the project (5/93), and learned that the BL kit had MDC origins. Thanks to all who responded -- Brian Carlson, Joe Binish, Fenton Wells, Robert Heninger, Dan Smith, Clark Propst, and Steve Hile.

Other references which offered additional prototype photos and comments -- MR 8/87, MM 3/92, Steam Era Freight Car Reference Manual Vol 3, Classic Freight Cars Vol. 3.  

Despite its 1946 build date, the Cudahy car is a design throwback with many 1920's features -- 36' length, wooden carbody, etc. It has some interesting details -- a recessed retainer valve, an angle brace running much of the length of the sidesill, body-brace boltheads at the corners, Acme ventilators (upper-center on each end), and National B-1 trucks.

Richard once again demonstrates his eye for detail and excellent modeling in the RMC article, and anyone else doing the project will find it a valuable reference. Note that his starting point is a truss-rodded MDC "old timer" reefer, which has some carbody differences (roof, hatches, underbody) vs. my later-era non-truss rod MDC kit. I followed much of Richard's lead, but deviated here and there, such as scratchbuilding the ends and retaining the diecast underframe. Decals are K4 and trucks Kadee.   

With my stash of resin kits now running on empty, I continue to have fun reinventing some of the vintage styrene kits.

Regards,
Bob Chapman


Re: Preferred truck mounting on resin cars

Robert kirkham
 

Got it - thanks!

On Aug 10, 2022, at 5:41 AM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:

Just mentioning a good place for small screws and hardware.

-Hudson


Hi Hudson - the link you sent went to the microfasteners webpage, but not to any specific product.  Can you point us to the item you were flagging?
 
Rob
 
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On Aug 9, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:



Re: Preferred truck mounting on resin cars

Ted Larson
 

My local hardware store sells thin plastic washers.  I don’t know what resin they are molded from, perhaps Delrin (?).  




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Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


Re: Preferred truck mounting on resin cars

Hudson Leighton
 

Just mentioning a good place for small screws and hardware.

-Hudson


Hi Hudson - the link you sent went to the microfasteners webpage, but not to any specific product.  Can you point us to the item you were flagging?
 
Rob
 
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On Aug 9, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote: