Or to carry coal.He's talking about the second photo, the car with the very home made looking roof.
Dennis Storzek
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] QUESTION FIR THE SANTA FE GURUS
The SFRM&HS' SANTA FE OPEN-TOP CARS, by Richard Hendrickson, has photos of the GA-53 cars on pages 146-148. While most of the underside stuff is hidden in the shadows, a couple of the photos do show what may be the end of the brake reservoir that is mounted perpendicular to the center sill.
Cheers.
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
Don Burn
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question on Illinois Terminal 50 yon war emergeny hopper 4000-4074 series
I guess the covered hopper was to carry materials for the manufacture of glass or more probably powdered lime stone as a flux in the steel industry.
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reading Depressed Center Flat Car 99048 With Gun Barrel
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The support structure is clearly not meant for only in-house use.
And I note that there's still one rod that has to be installed--just laying there!
Ed
Edward Sutorik
The support structure is clearly not meant for only in-house use.
And I note that there's still one rod that has to be installed--just laying there!
Ed
Edward Sutorik
Hi Tim, George, and List Members,
Tim, while the load COULD CONCEIVABLY have been shipped in the manner you described, I do thing George knew what he was talking about.
See attached image...
Claus Schlund
George
A gun barrel would not have been carried by that car. It would be mounted on two flat deck cars with a pivot
on each car for a really long barrel like a 16" naval barrel. AMB made a laser kit for these mounts for application to
the short PRR (F22) and MILW flats built for this purpose.
On 12/3/2022 2:18 PM, G.J. Irwin wrote:
Reviving this thread as Micro-Trains has among its December 2022 releases an N Scale rendition of this very car, Reading 99048, and with a battleship gun barrel load included (assembly and painting required).
https://micro-trains.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63_64&product_id=4690
Sometimes the groups.io search works perfectly, as this citation came right up. It's probably the first time I've seen Micro-Trains use a photo on Reddit as a reference, but say, ideas can come from anywhere. Bob, thanks much for posting this.
Now, to try to find some information on Reading 9241, a fifty foot flat car that Micro-Trains is also offering this month as a companion "buffer car." It's a Reading Class FMc flat built in 1937, looks like part of the series 9200 to 9249 according to the January 1940 ORER. The image on Reddit does indeed show a flat car coupled to the 99048 but the lettering isn't visible. The fact that "Reading" is a common verb as well as a railroad name should make searches interesting...
George Irwin
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
All-
As promised, here is a letter from the American Railway Association dated September 12, 1923 making assignment of the reporting marks for use of the John H. Grace Company.
The business of the company was largely refurbishing previously owned and leasing them out to clients so the G.R.Y.X. reporting marks were seen on a wide variety of older tank cars, but some new built tanks and other car types also used the marks (probably most notably, the Empire Fuel Coal Company G.R.Y.X. 1018 box car which has been produced in N Scale by Micro-Trains.
Charlie Vlk
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER search 1937-1944
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Guy is correct. I have a copy of a letter that granted Grace Tank Car line their reporting marks. I'm not at my main computer to access it right now and it was likely predecessor ARA given the authority as the company was active earlier. If of interest I will post it later.
Charlie Vlk
On Dec 3, 2022, at 12:03 AM, Guy Wilber via groups.io <guycwilber@...> wrote:
Rupert wrote:
“Yes, I found that one. RICX wasn’t officially allocated to the company until 1937 which is why I didn’t ask for searches before that date.. Any idea who allocated or approved the letters?”
The Operating Section of The Operating-Transportation Division of The Association of American Railroads was charged with assigning reporting marks from 1934 forward.
Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada
My pleasure Steve... I've certainly spent a lot of time building it, and am very glad that folks find it useful.
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
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Ian Cranstone's list of reporting marks show it was used by Rustless Iron, but he also points out that nothing was listed in the ORER's.
(Ian reviewed many, many ORER's to build his database and we are the beneficiaries. Thanks, Ian!)
Steve Hile
As a bonus, it's actually two issues: midway the July 1958 ORER ends, and the October 1958 ORER begins.
Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@...
No trouble downloading it, but it's quite huge -- over 300 MBytes.
On 12/1/2022 10:10 AM, Ray Breyer via groups.io wrote:Get it while its hot! Or at least before someone realizes that it needs to be copyright protected and not downloadable.
No trouble downloading it, but it's quite huge -- over 300 MBytes.
On 12/1/2022 10:10 AM, Ray Breyer via groups.io wrote:
Get it while its hot! Or at least before someone realizes that it needs to be copyright protected and not downloadable.
Ray Breyer
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Oops, you're right, Bill. What I thought was the reservoir was actually the brake cylinder. :-)
On 12/3/2022 3:49 PM, Bill Keene via groups.io wrote:
The SFRM&HS' SANTA FE OPEN-TOP CARS, by Richard Hendrickson, has photos of the GA-53 cars on pages 146-148. While most of the underside stuff is hidden in the shadows, a couple of the photos do show what may be the end of the brake reservoir that is mounted perpendicular to the center sill. Cheers. Bill Keene
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Cheers.
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
A gun barrel would not have been carried by that car. It would be mounted on two flat deck cars with a pivot
on each car for a really long barrel like a 16" naval barrel. AMB made a laser kit for these mounts for application to
the short PRR (F22) and MILW flats built for this purpose.
On 12/3/2022 2:18 PM, G.J. Irwin wrote:
Reviving this thread as Micro-Trains has among its December 2022 releases an N Scale rendition of this very car, Reading 99048, and with a battleship gun barrel load included (assembly and painting required).
https://micro-trains.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63_64&product_id=4690
Sometimes the groups.io search works perfectly, as this citation came right up. It's probably the first time I've seen Micro-Trains use a photo on Reddit as a reference, but say, ideas can come from anywhere. Bob, thanks much for posting this.
Now, to try to find some information on Reading 9241, a fifty foot flat car that Micro-Trains is also offering this month as a companion "buffer car." It's a Reading Class FMc flat built in 1937, looks like part of the series 9200 to 9249 according to the January 1940 ORER. The image on Reddit does indeed show a flat car coupled to the 99048 but the lettering isn't visible. The fact that "Reading" is a common verb as well as a railroad name should make searches interesting...
George Irwin
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Bill, I can't tell from the Ga-53 builder photo, but this builder photo of the very similar Ga-49 shows the brake reservoir
parallel and located next to the deep fishbelly center sill.
On 12/3/2022 2:57 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:
I posted this question a while back without any success so I'm giving it another shot. I am working on completing a Santa Fe Ga-53 50 foot mill gondola. There was a great set of drawings in a 1957 Model Railroader but it left one question on the layout of the AB brake components.
The standard Santa Fe layout had the brake reservoir mounted perpendicular to the center sill. There were a few but not many exceptions. The drawings in the Model Railroader issue has the reservoir parallel to the center sill. Can anyone verify this?
Thanks for any help.
Bill Pardie
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts