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Re: Low side gons
Yes, but I don't know when they appeared on the roster. I have a photo of N&W 247728, a 41 foot IL gondola, class G-14. It has a REBUILD stencil but the date is obscured. Another class, G-55 had more typical interior height and also is 41 foot IL. These may both be post-STMFC era. Tim O'Connor None I can find. The 1937 G1 class was the first lowside gons but they were 46'. Did the N&W or Virginian have 40 foot low side gondolas?� I'm aware of 46 foot gons, but unsure on 40 foot. Thanks, George Courtney
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Re: The circle continues to become smaller
Tony Thompson
I can second what many have been saying -- it was always pleasant to run into Dave at a meeting. He invariably had well-informed questions to ask, and I always tried to answer as best I could. His store of knowledge of both prototype and model railroading was considerable, so he was an interesting person to chat with. I will miss him too.
Tony Thompson
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Re: Box Car Crack Filler For Grain Transport
Brian Termunde
Dave,
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When you say "west of California", do you mean Hawaii, Guam, PI, Japan or maybe China? Or further west? Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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From: STMFC To: STMFC Sent: Wed, Oct 4, 2017 6:39 pm Subject: [STMFC] Digest Number 11176 Messages ________________________________________________________________________ 2a. Re: Box Car Crack Filler For Grain Transport
Posted by: "Dave Parker" spottab@... spottab Date: Wed Oct 4, 2017 7:56 am ((PDT)) Tony wrote:There is a big company that uses rice to make a thin beverage, but many of us do not consider it beer. Well said, but there are many companies that use what are called adjuncts in the brewing of "beer". An adjunct is any source of fermentables that is not malted barley (or wheat or rye). Rice is particularly prevalent in beers brewed to the west of California, but my sense is that corn is just as (perhaps more) common in U.S. lagers from the large macrobreweries. The Germans have traditionally been rather stuffy about the use of adjuncts, with various iterations of their Reinheitsgebot (purity regulations) dating back to the 16th century. Traditionally, to be called beer in Germany, the only ingredients allowed are malt, hops, water, and yeast. Actually, many very good beers contain adjuncts, often some form of table sugar (sucrose). FBOFW, these additions increase the alcohol content without making the beer too heavy. Examples include many Belgian ales and even some "big" American IPAs. And, as a rule, these adjuncts were and often still are transported in FREIGHT CARS. Dave ParkerRiverside, CA(who used to brew beer before model railroading took over his entire life)
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Re: Howard Ameling
Jim King
Brian,
Thank you for correcting me re: where Howard’s collection went. I’m glad it all stayed together with y’all rather than going to a dusty college archives who may never make them available. He had a VERY large collection and it will take many volunteer hours to document all he amassed over at least 60 years of shooting and collecting.
Jim King (828) 777-5619 www.smokymountainmodelworks.com
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Re: Low side gons
David
Longer answer, discounting composite and side-dump cars and mill gondolas:
N&W cut down 800 class GJa gondolas to 3' sides in 1934-5, #s 98000-98799 class GJc. N&W cut down 500 class GU gondolas to 3' sides in 1938, #s 90000-90499 class G-2. Virginian cut down 75 class G-2 gondolas to 3'6" sides in 1941, #s 3850-3924 class G-2A. N&W class G-6 and G-9 were longer than 40'. David Thompson
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Re: Low side gons
None I can find. The 1937 G1 class was the first lowside gons but they were 46'. You could double check nwhs.org but I didn't see any. Jeff Coleman
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Re: The circle continues to become smaller
I am sorry to hear about Dave's passing. He was a prominent name that I recognized at Shake N Take and other venues in our great hobby. He will be sorely missed. My prayers go out to Dave's family. Rich Christie
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Re: CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
David
That's one of the very early (circa 1912-1916 or so) Pennsylvania Tank Car tanks. The frame design was taken up by Standard Tank Car when its predecessor started in 1916 and PTC changed frames.
David Thompson
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Re: The circle continues to become smaller
Ted Culotta
Dave was one of the nicest, most genuine people I have met in the hobby. I will miss seeing him and discussing topics we all love. Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media
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Re: CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
John Hile
I'd say Standard Tank Car Co. is the builder.
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Re: Low side gons
David
What's your definition of "low"?
David Thompson
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Re: CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends, Any thoughts on who built this tank car? I’m reasonably certain it is not an AC&F product. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On Oct 4, 2017, at 6:41 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote: Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder: Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Howard Ameling
Al Kresse <water.kresse@...>
GREAT! Al Kresse
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Re: CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
Bill Vaughn
Yes weigh in motion scale. Bill Vaughn
On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 4:21 PM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" wrote: Is that a retarder or a weigh-in-motion scale? I'm inclined to think the latter.
Regards
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: STMFC@... on behalf of thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:41 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] CMTX 465 (Tank Car) Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet,
CA
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Re: CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
Is that a retarder or a weigh-in-motion scale? I'm inclined to think the latter.
Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
From: STMFC@... on behalf of thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:41 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] CMTX 465 (Tank Car) Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Howard Ameling
On correction to what Jim posted. Putting my official hat on. We, the NKPHTS, are the custodian of Howard's entire collection under the terms of a 2004 trust agreement. Official hat off. Brian J. Carlson
On Oct 4, 2017, at 10:50 AM, 'Jim King' jimking3@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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CMTX 465 (Tank Car)
thecitrusbelt@...
Here is a nice bird's eye view of CMTX 465 going over a retarder:
http://i.pinimg.com/1200x/1d/e5/18/1de51863456974b82a4b9bf3146c35e7.jpg
Unfortunately, I have no date nor location for the photo.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Box Car Crack Filler For Grain Transport
billinsf@...
Tony, in reviewing my previous comment, I have to say that I NEVER said rice wasn't a grain. All I was saying was that rice, like most other grains, has a seed coat that is often removed by milling.
Bill Daniels
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Low side gons
George Courtney
Did the N&W or Virginian have 40 foot low side gondolas? I'm aware of 46 foot gons, but unsure on 40 foot. Thanks, George Courtney
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Re: Beer - Was Re: Box Car Crack Filler For Grain Transport
Brian Termunde
Well, here in Utah, any beer - even made from rice - has gotta be better then the flavored water they pawn off as beer! It wouldn't be better even if it was shipped in Steam Era freight cars.
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Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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From: STMFC To: STMFC Sent: Wed, Oct 4, 2017 8:06 am Subject: [STMFC] Digest Number 11175 Messages ________________________________________________________________________ 1e. Re: Box Car Crack Filler For Grain Transport Posted by: "Tony Thompson" tony@... sigpress Date: Tue Oct 3, 2017 7:43 pm ((PDT)) Dennis Storzek wrote: > I thought in the U.S. rice was reserved for making bad beer (ducking for cover :-) > There is a big company that uses rice to make a thin beverage, but many of us do not consider it beer. Tony Thompson tony@... ________________________________________________________________________
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