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Photo: Breeding & Show Cattle In An Express Reefer

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Breeding & Show Cattle In An Express Reefer

Photo from the Savor Snoqualmie Valley website:

https://savorsnoqualmievalley.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/train1-1024x814.jpg

The doors are missing. The car appears to have passenger car trucks.

The photo is from an article on Carnation Farms, which states:

“The foundation herd cultivated by Carnation became breeding stock the world over. This meant that across the world, dairy farmers were able to get more milk from fewer cows leading to more stable food security, reduced labor needs (fewer cows mean fewer four-times-per-day milkings), and decreased footprint and environmental impact per gallon of milk. The legacy Carnation cows can be seen in dairy bloodlines across the world, to this day.”

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Re: Need Bob's Photo contact info

Kevin von der Lippe
 

Jim,

 

Bob’s Photos will be in NC at the RPM Carolinas meet in High Point (near Greensboro) September 30th and October 1st.  See https://www.facebook.com/rpmcarolinas/.

 

Kevin von der Lippe

 


Re: stock car capacity

Guy Wilber
 

Gary Patrik wrote:

Can anyone tell me steam era approximate average standard 40' stock
car loadings (animals per car)  for: single deck - cattle; double deck - sheep or hogs?

From the archives:

The following covers both 36' and 40' cars. The runs represent; the number
of head/ average weight of animals.

CATTLE:

36' CAR; 60/300, 50/400, 42/500, 36/600, 33/700, 30/800, 27/900, 25/1000,
23/100, 22/1200, 21/1300, 19/1400

40' CAR; 67/300, 56/400, 46/500, 40/600, 37/700, 33/800, 30/900, 27/1000,
25/1100, 23/1200, 22/1300, 21/1400

HOGS:

36' CAR; 130/100, 115/125, 100/150, 89/175, 79/200, 73/225, 68/250, 62/275,
60/300, 57/325, 54/350, 48/400

40' CAR; 145/100, 127/125, 110/150, 98/175, 88/200, 81/225, 76/250, 69/275,
66/300, 64/325, 60/350, 54/400

(For DD cars; the number loaded on upper deck should be 8 to 10 head less
than number loaded on lower deck)

SHEEP:

SD 36' CAR; 150/50, 125/75, 105/100, 95/125, 85/150, 75/180
DD 36' CAR; 300/50, 250/75, 210/100, 190/125, 170/150, 150/180

SD 40' CAR; 165/50, 138/75, 116/100, 105/125, 94/150, 82/180
DD 40' CAR; 330/50, 276/75. 236/100, 210/125, 188/150, 164/180

(For DD cars; the number loaded on upper deck should be 8 to 10 head less
than number loaded on lower deck)

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada 


stock car capacity

Gary Patrik
 

Can anyone tell me steam era approximate average standard 40' stock
car loadings (animals per car) for: single deck - cattle; double deck
- sheep or hogs?
--
Gary Patrik


Munshaw Canada slide Canadian Pacific CPR dock yard scene

Steven D Johnson
 

Lots of Canadian Pacific boxcars and a few stock cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362122778

 

Other slides with freight car views from this seller:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512528114?hash=item2b316888f2:g:ZasAAOSwUnBi2HPG

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512517049?hash=item2b31685db9:g:v3UAAOSwlrti2GN~

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512525866?hash=item2b3168802a:g:LCsAAOSwtNti2DGI

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185512516284?hash=item2b31685abc:g:rvYAAOSwRLxi2GYN

 

 

Looks to be from the early 1960s or so, but still a lot of steam era freight cars:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175362124428?hash=item28d465aa8c:g:VRsAAOSwr8pi2Xx7

 

 

I have no connection with the seller.   Just happened upon these and wanted to share.

 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 


Re: SUNSHINE KITS OFFERED FOR SALE

Steve Haas
 

 

>>>>> Recently there have been numerous posts from people selling their excess Sunshine kits.  One of these offered a Sunshine kit for a Pacific Fruit Express R-40-16 car.  I would be a buyer if this car has not sold. <<<<<

 

Search the message archives on line, using the tools available to search message headers and/or message bodies. 

 

Once you find the message with the kit in question, go to that message and “Reply” or “Reply to Sender”.  Depending on how the group is configured, Either “Reply” or “Reply to Group”  will show up – don’t use the “Reply to Group” option.

 

If you are receiving group messages in your e-mail, there are multiple links provided in the footer at the bottom of the e-mail message.  One of these is “Reply to Sender”.  Selecting that link will allow you to send an e-mail directly to the sender of the message.

 

R-40-16

"R-40-16"

"R-40-16" "For Sale”

"PFE" "R-40-16"

 

Each turns up various results.  Search tools depend on what you enter as search terms.  Depending on the search engine used, a wide variety of options are available, including the use of “And” “Or”, and “And/Or” searches.  Try things out and see what you get – don’t forget to check the help pages for how to’s on how to format search terms.

 

My searches here on RealSTEAMFC didn’t turn up much – however, there have been quite a few “For Sale” posts for resin kits on HO SWAP SHOP recently – perhaps conduct you searches there . .

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA


Re: SUNSHINE KITS OFFERED FOR SALE

Steve Haas
 

Actually, that was the reply to group button.  Sorry about that.

 

Steve

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Haas
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 8:33 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SUNSHINE KITS OFFERED FOR SALE

 

Bill,

Demonstrating the online reply to sender function.

Steve


Re: SUNSHINE KITS OFFERED FOR SALE

Steve Haas
 

Bill,

Demonstrating the online reply to sender function.

Steve


A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Andy Carlson
 

This 10 wheeler truck, thought by some at first to be a cab over, has interesting wheel combinations. I suspect that it was built as a 6 wheeler, with Dayton spoked wheels, with an additional rear axle with 4 Budd wheels added later. Maybe a war-time modification?
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 07:25:37 AM PDT, Ted Larson via groups.io <mhrreast@...> wrote:

Apologies to the COE fan… zoom in for a closer look, I see two trucks, not a COE, where I think you refer to.   


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Ted Larson
 

The car is a 51 Olds

Apologies to the COE fan… zoom in for a closer look, I see two trucks, not a COE, where I think you refer to.   




--
Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


SUNSHINE KITS OFFERED FOR SALE

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Recently there have been numerous posts from people selling their excess Sunshine kits.  One of these offered a Sunshine kit for a Pacific Fruit Express R-40-16 car.  I would be a buyer if this car has not sold.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Ted Larson
 

I especially like the truck that is labeled 
Watermelons 




--
Ted Larson
Trainweb.org/MHRR   ---   GN in 1965   ---   NASG.org 


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

frograbbit602
 

Great information photo. Thanks for sharing.
Lester Breuer


Re: RPM Collinsville

Clark Propst
 

I’ll echo Charlie’s remarks word for word.  Of course, we had to nudge Mike Scribbe about another ChicagoLand meet  ;  )) 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Doug Paasch
 

Scott, i think the cabover truck is not?  Looks to me like a regular truck with a van parked beyond it facing the camera.  Is that what you were looking at?  Or did I miss seeing the truck you are referring to?

    Doug Paasch


On Sun, Jul 31, 2022, 2:24 AM Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:
Really neat photo.  Like the cab over truck in the back ground.  Team tracks sure provide an opportunity for interesting cars.

Scott McDonald 


RPM Collinsville

Charlie Duckworth
 

I to managed to pick a couple kits from the F&C booth and was pleasantly surprised with the quality of the one piece bodies, bought Chad Boaz’s M-58 parts set for a 50’ B&O kit bash and Fenton showed me his wonderful built of the car.  I’d swore off buying any 50’ cars but it looks like a fun built and K4 makes the decal set. I had to visit Pierre a couple times to stock up on his detail parts.   I hadn’t  been to RPM in four years so it was good to catch up with old friends (Clark) and meet face to face with those I’d only contacted through the .io group (Bill Pardee and Fenton Wells).  The room was larger and the display tables were more spread out and I believe more tables were available. One attendee thought there was 900+ models on display.   Bill Stauss, who I worked with on the Mopac in 1977-78, found me at the MPHS table. I hadn’t see him since he’d quit and went to work for a shortline and Amtrak.  Am sure he was thinking ‘Charlie’s certainly changed the last 45 years!’  Bill written several Morning Sun books on CNW and Milwaukee passenger trains.   Steve Hile was taking photos so I assume we’ll see some images in the next week or so of the models.   
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Robert G P
 

Thats late 40s or the earliest of the 50s id say.


On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:47 AM Robert G P via groups.io <bobgp5109=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, really enjoyed this. Anyone who has any - post em! 

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 5:34 AM Philip Dove <philipdove22@...> wrote:
As the others say a really interesting photo, can anyone deduce the year from liveries and truck types, please. 


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Robert G P
 

Yes, really enjoyed this. Anyone who has any - post em! 


On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 5:34 AM Philip Dove <philipdove22@...> wrote:
As the others say a really interesting photo, can anyone deduce the year from liveries and truck types, please. 


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Philip Dove
 

As the others say a really interesting photo, can anyone deduce the year from liveries and truck types, please. 


Re: A few reefers unloading produce in Chicago

Scott
 

Really neat photo.  Like the cab over truck in the back ground.  Team tracks sure provide an opportunity for interesting cars.

Scott McDonald 

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