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Re: Diamond 3-dome tank car

Richard Townsend
 

Steve,

It is COSX 975. And super magnification of the photo shows Mid-Continent Petroleum Corp Tulsa Okla above the reporting marks. I should have seen that sooner. Thanks for your response.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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From: 'Steve and Barb Hile' shile@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 6:22 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Diamond 3-dome tank car

 
Richard,
 
Are the reporting marks and/or car number visible in the photo?  There is a Diamond Gasoline Company listed in a 1926 ORER with reporting marks of DGCX.  Car numbers listed are 1470-1489 and 2000-2210 with a total number of cars listed as 20.  They are not noted as being multi-compartment.  It appears to be headquartered in Kansas City.
 
Steve Hile


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:41 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Diamond 3-dome tank car

 
The Fort Collins, Colorado, public library has a 1930's era photo of a three-dome tank car with billboard lettering for "Diamond." The car is a 1923 product of AC&F. I am looking for a little history on Diamond Petroleum or Diamond Oil or whatever company it was. It does not seem to be related to any existing Diamond-named oil company. Was it a brand name of a company with a different corporate name? Folded into a different company?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Delineators

golden1014
 

Hi Bill,

ACL was one of the first railroads to use them en masse, applying them to cars in 1951.  The got new series of cars with them and began applying them to roster cars around the same time.  

ON this list, we live and die by terminology.  I have not seen any ACL literature that uses the term delineator.  They used the terms Prismo stripes or Prismo blocks.  I think we've talked about Prismo before on this list--Prismo was a product name for a specific brand of paint that had glass beads in it to provide additional reflectivity.  I don't recall when they stopped using them...the years 1958 rings a bell.

I wouldn't characterize automobile drivers as "stupid".  Dark painted trains can be difficult to see, even at night, and especially at an unlit or unmarked grade crossing.  Certainly there were more drunk drivers then, and folks have always driven distracted.  But in a loud old jalopy, at night, in the rain, at an unlit crossing, it can be tough to see a moving train.

It was great to see you at St. Louis BTW.  Sorry we didn't get to talk more!

John Golden
Albersbach, Germany


Re: Wabash Yard Scene

earlyrail
 

note the BCR&N boxcar. That road became part of the Rock Island in 1903,
but cars with these reporting marks lasted into the teens.
Steve Hile
Where is the BCR&N car?
I do see a KCFS&M cars next to the gon that started this discussion.

Howard Garner


Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Patrick Wade
 

It appears that the brake wheels are all at about the same height above the track regardless of the height of the car. Wonder if there was a standard or regulation that set a max height for car appliances?

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Michael Gross ActorMichaelGross@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

What I find interesting are the variations in height for the upright brake wheel staffs on the Michigan Central box car and its neighbor near where the photo has been torn at the bottom.



Re: Kadee HGC 2D-P8 was PRR GS gondola trucks

Tony Thompson
 

Bruce Smith wrote:

 

I recently had an email exchange with Sam Clarke of Kadee (who is on this list) regarding their doing the 2D-F8 truck in HGC.  This truck is not a burning priority for Kadee right now, but could be if there was enough interest.


     Sam will tell you, if asked, that the long-term plan is eventually to replace ALL the older metal trucks with HGC. It is just a matter of timing, and of course if Kadee perceives minimal interest in a particular truck, the delay could be long or even indefinite. So expressions of interest are definitely in order.
      The Type Y truck was used on many tank cars in the 1920s, for some reason, and so there are far more extensive needs than just the Pennsy modelers (and of course, as is long established, we are all Pennsy modelers if we are serious freight car guys).

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Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Michael Gross
 

What I find interesting are the variations in height for the upright brake wheel staffs on the Michigan Central box car and its neighbor near where the photo has been torn at the bottom.


Re: Colchester Carson Automobiles Unloading From Train 1914

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:
"From the Western Illinois University Libraries, not quite a purpose-built unloading facility:
http://collections.carli.illinois.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/wiu_digimgc/id/4681/rec/1
 
The car number on the auto boxcar to the left is obliterated by a hole punched in the photo, but the car on the right is MCRR 89468, from MCRR 89000-89999, Lot 240-B built by AF&F in 1910.

Interestingly, these cars were rebuilt with full double doors in 1927/1928 and ran until 1960.  Need to poll the ORER for the rebuilds - I'm not sure if they remained double-sheathed cars or were rebuilt to steel.


Ben Hom 


Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks for your insight on the UTL tank car, Steve.

 

After a search, I found the Deepwater and Tidewater railroads became the Virginian Railway in 1907. All of these data points help to place this image in the timeline. It looks like a mid-to-late Oughts is a possibility. A May 1911 ORER lists about 200 box cars still lettered for the Deepwater.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 


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No the the nearer UTL tank car is not a Class X.  It is an older tank, either on a wood underframe or a newer steel underframe that UTL purchased from Bettendorf in the early years of the 20th Century.  It is similar to the tank behind the flat car with the steam traction engines (tractors) with head blocks, and round tank bands, including one that wraps around the dome.  It does have safety valves.

 

After the break up of the Standard Oil Trust in 1911, Union Tank Line became Union Tank Car Company and adopted UTLX reporting marks.  The process took some time to complete as it involved repainting and some renumbering, too.

 

I note the BCR&N boxcar.  That road became part of the Rock Island in 1903, but cars with these reporting marks lasted into the teens.

 

Steve Hile

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:37 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Wabash Yard Scene

 

Now that you point it out, Tim, I see the wheels. They seem like mine carts on end, but more of a shallow cart depth.

Is the UTL tank a Class X? I’m not certain if I see a wood flat car or just the wood end portion of the car.

When did Union Tank Line move towards UTLX marks? That may help date the image.

The flat under the tractors is lettered Kansas City Southern. After the image opens, click on it to review the full size. Then you can zoom in using the CTRL and + keys.

Yard images from the Pre-Depression Era are on the rare side.

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

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Bob

Fab photo !

To me they appear to be made of wood and have a visible axle with wheels. They look like those
wood carts used by mechanics to slide underneath a vehicle for maintenance work. :-)

Tim O'Connor





This link was shared with me by Roy Wojahn:

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/herald-review.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/bb/bbb9624a-681a-5db0-a223-f689adacf51f/5785225e8246a.image.jpg

I found what looks like copper anodes in a gondola. I'm sure many of you will find other items of interest.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 



Colchester Carson Automobiles Unloading From Train 1914

thecitrusbelt@...
 

From the Western Illinois University Libraries, not quite a purpose-built unloading facility:

 

http://collections.carli.illinois.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/wiu_digimgc/id/4681/rec/1

 

Really easy scene to model...start with a Life-Like grass mat...

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Dave Parker
 

To expand a bit on what Steve said:

The UTL lettering scheme seen here is typical of the "oughts".  The first appearance on "UTLX" on a Union car that I have seen is in a rendering in the Feb 1913 ORER, although it may have appeared a bit earlier.  From then until perhaps the middle of 1915, it seems that the large UNION TANK LINE appeared over the UTLX reporting mark and car number on the left side.  At that point, the large lettering was dropped and UNION TANK LINE CO. appeared in 3-inch lettering on the right side of the car.

I am not sure when exactly the company name changed, but the earliest photograph I can find showing UNION TANK CAR CO. is from 1920.  Prior, it seems to have consistently been UNION TANK LINE CO.

If anyone has contrary evidence, I would love to receive it, as I am presently trying to work out the exact evolution of the UTLX schemes during the teens and twenties.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA




On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 7:49 AM, "'Steve and Barb Hile' shile@... [STMFC]"


 
No the the nearer UTL tank car is not a Class X.  It is an older tank, either on a wood underframe or a newer steel underframe that UTL purchased from Bettendorf in the early years of the 20th Century.  It is similar to the tank behind the flat car with the steam traction engines (tractors) with head blocks, and round tank bands, including one that wraps around the dome.  It does have safety valves.
 
After the break up of the Standard Oil Trust in 1911, Union Tank Line became Union Tank Car Company and adopted UTLX reporting marks.  The process took some time to complete as it involved repainting and some renumbering, too.
 
I note the BCR&N boxcar.  That road became part of the Rock Island in 1903, but cars with these reporting marks lasted into the teens.
 
Steve Hile



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:37 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Wabash Yard Scene

 
Now that you point it out, Tim, I see the wheels. They seem like mine carts on end, but more of a shallow cart depth.
Is the UTL tank a Class X? I’m not certain if I see a wood flat car or just the wood end portion of the car.
When did Union Tank Line move towards UTLX marks? That may help date the image.
The flat under the tractors is lettered Kansas City Southern. After the image opens, click on it to review the full size. Then you can zoom in using the CTRL and + keys.
Yard images from the Pre-Depression Era are on the rare side.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

From: STMFC@... [mailto: STMFC@... ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:22 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Wabash Yard Scene


Bob

Fab photo !

To me they appear to be made of wood and have a visible axle with wheels. They look like those
wood carts used by mechanics to slide underneath a vehicle for maintenance work. :-)

Tim O'Connor




This link was shared with me by Roy Wojahn:

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/herald-review.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/bb/bbb9624a-681a-5db0-a223-f689adacf51f/5785225e8246a.image.jpg

I found what looks like copper anodes in a gondola. I'm sure many of you will find other items of interest.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




Re: Presence of Canadian Cars

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <eric@...> wrote :

Dave,

 

Do you have the US destinations for the loaded Canadian cars? It is my understanding that the cars could be used for US loads if they were headed back towards their original routing or a Canadian connection. I can see the GTW cars with a destination towards Chicago and Detroit . The CN and CP destinations would be interesting.

  

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

=====================


It ought to be pointed out that GTW was a US, not Canadian railroad.


Dennis Storzek

 

 



Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Steve and Barb Hile
 

No the the nearer UTL tank car is not a Class X.  It is an older tank, either on a wood underframe or a newer steel underframe that UTL purchased from Bettendorf in the early years of the 20th Century.  It is similar to the tank behind the flat car with the steam traction engines (tractors) with head blocks, and round tank bands, including one that wraps around the dome.  It does have safety valves.
 
After the break up of the Standard Oil Trust in 1911, Union Tank Line became Union Tank Car Company and adopted UTLX reporting marks.  The process took some time to complete as it involved repainting and some renumbering, too.
 
I note the BCR&N boxcar.  That road became part of the Rock Island in 1903, but cars with these reporting marks lasted into the teens.
 
Steve Hile



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:37 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Wabash Yard Scene

 

Now that you point it out, Tim, I see the wheels. They seem like mine carts on end, but more of a shallow cart depth.

Is the UTL tank a Class X? I’m not certain if I see a wood flat car or just the wood end portion of the car.

When did Union Tank Line move towards UTLX marks? That may help date the image.

The flat under the tractors is lettered Kansas City Southern. After the image opens, click on it to review the full size. Then you can zoom in using the CTRL and + keys.

Yard images from the Pre-Depression Era are on the rare side.

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:22 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Wabash Yard Scene



Bob

Fab photo !

To me they appear to be made of wood and have a visible axle with wheels. They look like those
wood carts used by mechanics to slide underneath a vehicle for maintenance work. :-)

Tim O'Connor




This link was shared with me by Roy Wojahn:

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/herald-review.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/bb/bbb9624a-681a-5db0-a223-f689adacf51f/5785225e8246a.image.jpg

I found what looks like copper anodes in a gondola. I'm sure many of you will find other items of interest.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Jim Betz
 

Bob and all,

I am surprised at the "mix" of the cars in this scene. A lot less box cars than I expected.
I can not find a 'modern' car in the pic - note that -all- of the box cars seem to have high
brake wheels.
Also note the apparent "regional nature" of the cars ... very few cars from -any- Western
road ... which says as much about my personal pre-disposition/interest as anything else.
Those of you who have lived East of the Mississippi and are primarily interested in Eastern
RRs would not have even noticed that aspect. I'm -not- saying either of us are "right" - I'm
just pointing out a fact about this photo.
I also note the lack of Wabash cars. I would have expected more "home road" cars in
a Wabash yard in Chicago ... but someone else has speculated that this pic might be as
early as 1910 ...
Note there are zero identifiable automobiles/trucks in this scene. Even on the streets
in the extreme distance. But possibly in contradiction to that (?) is that there are poles
with wires on them "every where and with lots of wires" ... which makes me want to
place the picture in the 20's (?). Note that poles are evident even down the one
street you can look down - perhaps there are some cars on that street?. I can't tell
for certain.
One final observation - all of the coal seems to be in low sided gondolas rather
that what we think of as "coal gons". Perhaps this will help date the pic ...

Great picture, Bob, thanks for posting.
- Jim B.

P.S. Many yahoo groups seem to be going to groups.io - is that move being
considered for STMFC?


Kadee HGC 2D-P8 was PRR GS gondola trucks

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

I recently had an email exchange with Sam Clarke of Kadee (who is on this list) regarding their doing the 2D-F8 truck in HGC.  This truck is not a burning priority for Kadee right now, but could be if there was enough interest.

As a Pennsy modeler, there is a critical need for a high quality 2D-P8 and I would really like to see it sooner than later… but I have already expressed my needs to Sam.  If you need this truck, you need to express you needs to him as well ;)

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



Ben Hom said:

If you're modeling the transition era, Class 2D-F8 trucks were most common.  These are available in HO scale from Bowser, Kadee, and Red Caboose.  Sunshine also offered them.  I prefer the Kadee trucks for open cars as they add more weight; unfortunately, they're not yet available in HGC, so you have to deal with the Ovechkin spring gap.


Re: Presence of Canadian Cars

Jim Betz
 

Dave Connery and ALL,

I'm not 'contradicting' what you say - I'm 'trying to understand/seeing if I
have it right' .... and hoping that others who have spent more time with
the freight car rules will confirm/correct my statements below.

Aren't these shipments "anomalies" with respect to the ever repeating
threads about car routing and the rules applied to that (simply because
they are for Tuolumne in the late 20's)? I base that question on the
following "thought process" ...

1) The period of your study is for '26 to '29. Weren't the rules considerably
"relaxed" at that time? (Especially compared to later times.)

2) In fact - weren't the car routing rules done as a response to these very
kinds of things (and done 'later')?

3) Tuolumne was kind of "a location out on it's own". It was not a major
city, it was in the West, and it was on a feeder RR rather than on a
primary carrier. So it does not surprise me that they would have
pretty much used what ever cars they could get and paid very
little attention to where they 'should' be going.

4) However - the very presence of over a hundred Canadian Cars - in
the area of Tuolumne for them to reuse - is surprising and says that
Canadian cars were "getting to California much more often than
mere reuse would explain. I will go so far as to speculate that they
got to California because they were delivering Canadian lumber.

5) I suspect that in the late 20's there were very few outbound loads
from Tuolumne that weren't carrying lumber. And the destinations
for those loads would have been "where ever the shipper (West Side
Lumber) was selling product".

So my overall generalizations are that I am not at all surprised at the
destinations of these loads from Tuolumne in the late 20's. But I am
surprised at the number of cars that were Canadian.

===> The one piece of information that you didn't include was the
total number of loads being shipped out of Tuolumne in that
same time frame. This would help us to understand the
numbers of the Canadian cars better.
- Jim B.
2.1. Re: Presence of Canadian Cars

Posted by: dgconnery@... dgconnery@...
Date: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:20 pm ((PDT))

Armand,




In a study I have been working on of shipments from the West Side Lumber Company in Tuolumne, California in the period November 1926 to December 1929 there were 55 loads of lumber products shipped from Tuolumne in Canadian National cars (I assume these were cars that had delivered product to central California and then were empty and available for further loading.) Of these 55 car loadings only one was headed back to Canada while the other 54 were destined to locations in the US. During the same period 3 Canadian Pacific cars were loaded at Tuolumne, all for US destinations.There were also 57 Grand Trunk Western cars loaded and again only one headed for Canada.




Dave Connery


Re: Presence of Canadian Cars

Eric Hansmann
 

Dave,

 

Do you have the US destinations for the loaded Canadian cars? It is my understanding that the cars could be used for US loads if they were headed back towards their original routing or a Canadian connection. I can see the GTW cars with a destination towards Chicago and Detroit. The CN and CP destinations would be interesting.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 


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To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Presence of Canadian Cars

 




Armand,

 

In a study I have been working on of shipments from the West Side Lumber Company in Tuolumne, California in the period November 1926 to December 1929 there were 55 loads of lumber products shipped from Tuolumne in Canadian National cars (I assume these were cars that had delivered product to central California and then were empty and available for further loading.) Of these 55 car loadings only one was headed back to Canada while the other 54 were destined to locations in the US. During the same period 3 Canadian Pacific cars were loaded at Tuolumne, all for US destinations.There were also 57 Grand Trunk Western cars loaded and again only one headed for Canada.

 

Dave Connery



Re: Wabash Yard Scene

rwitt_2000
 

Hopefully not speculating too much, but those objects could be heavy duty freight house carts with solid iron wheels and three point support, two wheels and a hitch, to be pulled by some sort of tractor. These often were made into "trains"to move freight inside the warehouse.

Can't find any examples just now, but I have seen examples in old photos of interior views of freight warehouses.

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: NPS Steamtown: DL&W Class S-2 Vehicle Car - 1921

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks for the links, Richard! I caught the image that was posted on Monday
and am happy to see more photos of this vehicle car. The 1926 ORER indicates
there were 64 cars in the 4000-4099 series. The Lackawanna had a few
different car series under the XA designation. The largest 1926 grouping was
under the 12000-12999 series with 998 cars listed.

I had been reviewing the recent daily postings on the E-L Photo List Archive
as several images each day were taken in 1921. Sadly, there have been very
few freight cars in these vintage photos. Part of a PRR XL shows up at the
very edges of two images and there are some cars in the distance of other
images. So far, this Lackawanna vehicle car is the first of the 1921 images
with a decent photo angle.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:35 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] NPS Steamtown: DL&W Class S-2 Vehicle Car - 1921

Spanning a couple of days on the ErieLack list...
again posted by Patrick McKnight - Historian/Archivist, Steamtown NHS.


DL&W Class S-2 double-door 'Vehicle Car"... built in Jan 1907...
Chalked-up 'Hold for Orders"... with Bad Order cards tacked on both sides...

Sheathing repairs are evident on both sides... and the interior is
still a bit ragged.
...but where else will you find -interior- graffiti??? "Worked by
the Famous Boys - 11-18-19"

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------

From: "McKnight, Richard" <pat_mcknight@...>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 06:24:12 -0400

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-07-17-17
X2109--Vehicle car no. 4013--Exterior--Door open [1921.xx.xx]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-17-17/X2109.jpg

From: "McKnight, Richard" <pat_mcknight@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:34:28 -0400

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-07-19-17

X2110--Vehicle car no. 4013--Exterior--Door closed [1921.xx.xx]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-19-17/X2110.jpg
X2111--Vehicle car no. 4013--Interior [1921.xx.xx]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-19-17/X2111.jpg
X2112--Vehicle car no. 4013--Interior [1921.xx.xx]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-19-17/X2112.jpg
X2113--Vehicle car no. 4013--Interior--Inside door [1921.xx.xx]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-19-17/X2113.jpg




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Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Eric Hansmann
 

Now that you point it out, Tim, I see the wheels. They seem like mine carts on end, but more of a shallow cart depth.

 

Is the UTL tank a Class X? I’m not certain if I see a wood flat car or just the wood end portion of the car.

 

When did Union Tank Line move towards UTLX marks? That may help date the image.

 

The flat under the tractors is lettered Kansas City Southern. After the image opens, click on it to review the full size. Then you can zoom in using the CTRL and + keys.

 

Yard images from the Pre-Depression Era are on the rare side.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:22 AM
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Bob

Fab photo !

To me they appear to be made of wood and have a visible axle with wheels. They look like those
wood carts used by mechanics to slide underneath a vehicle for maintenance work. :-)

Tim O'Connor




This link was shared with me by Roy Wojahn:

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/herald-review.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/bb/bbb9624a-681a-5db0-a223-f689adacf51f/5785225e8246a.image.jpg

I found what looks like copper anodes in a gondola. I'm sure many of you will find other items of interest.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Wabash Yard Scene

Tim O'Connor
 

Bob

Fab photo !

To me they appear to be made of wood and have a visible axle with wheels. They look like those
wood carts used by mechanics to slide underneath a vehicle for maintenance work. :-)

Tim O'Connor



This link was shared with me by Roy Wojahn:

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/herald-review.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/bb/bbb9624a-681a-5db0-a223-f689adacf51f/5785225e8246a.image.jpg

I found what looks like copper anodes in a gondola. I'm sure many of you will find other items of interest.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

42441 - 42460 of 193611