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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Andrew, Thanks. As has been pointed out by a couple members I'm "living in the past" with my resin car experience. Indeed my experience was in the earlier years with flat kits by Westerfield and F&C and they were just not suitable for me. I just had a hard time and they shattered and were just sot of nasty things. I haven't tried any since then and obviously it's a shame as I've limited my freight car roster. The resin companies offer so many unique and interesting cars. I had one fellow that was building cars for me and that somehow stopped. So maybe with all the good information I've been getting I may try some resin cars. I also seem to remember guys saying the earlier resins also were difficult to make paint adhere to. I guess the new polyurethene material has cured that issue too. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Saturday, February 3, 2018, 10:31:42 AM CST, Andrew Dahm dahminator68@... [STMFC] wrote:
Hello Roger. We use polyurethane resin to make all of our castings. Brittle is not a word that I would use with polyurethane. It is likely you are thinking of the early resin kits from the '80s that were made from dark polyester resin. That stuff is like glass. Polyurethane compares to styrene in many ways but must be glued with ACC. Thank you, Andrew Dahm westerfieldmodels@...
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 4:49 PM, Roger Huber trainpainter@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
dahminator68
Hello Roger. We use polyurethane resin to make all of our castings. Brittle is not a word that I would use with polyurethane.
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It is likely you are thinking of the early resin kits from the '80s that were made from dark polyester resin. That stuff is like glass. Polyurethane compares to styrene in many ways but must be glued with ACC. Thank you, Andrew Dahm westerfieldmodels@...
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 4:49 PM, Roger Huber trainpainter@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: MP Reweigh Stations
Nelson Moyer
Thanks, Ed. I had forgotten about that link. I downloaded the pdf so I can search my hard drive next time.
Nelson Moyer
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
On Feb 2, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Nelson Moyer
npmoyer@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
Nelson, It’s been quite a few years ago when a number of people collaborated with Richard Hendrickson in compiling a list of weigh stations symbols, which is one of the many prototype reference files in the STMFC web site.
Link is the 6th bullet. The list is alphabetical by reporting marks, which for MoPac on-line weigh stations include listings on 3 pages.
21 International-Great Northern 23 Missouri Pacific 25 Gulf Coast lines (listed as NOT&M but also applies to StLB&M)
Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Johannes, Thanks for the info. That's a very nice looking model. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Saturday, February 3, 2018, 5:56:22 AM CST, j.markwart@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
Hello Roger,
there is Southeast Scale Models by Michael Stamey. Here is an example:
https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/090372/HO-Built-Up-Model-Southeast-Scale-Models-from-Westerfield-3802-ACL-Atlantic-Coast-Line-USRA-Boxcar-Box-Car-46824-Pro-Paint
I have two cars built by him and I am very pleased by his work. From time to time you can find his offerings at ebay.
Best Regards
Johannes
Gesendet: Samstag, 03. Februar 2018 um 03:35 Uhr
Von: "Roger Huber trainpainter@... [STMFC]" An: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" Betreff: Re: [STMFC] F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Thanks, Bill. That was about my last experience with resin cars and I filed them away under the "never again" category! Way back I tried a Westerfield and an F&C and it was frustrating to say the least. I have heard they were much more user friendly now. Unfortunately the past experience was so poor it has kept me from having some very unique rolling stock. I'm still not convinced I want to spend the money on them and experiment myself.
I had a very good builder but he got his feelings hurt or something and so that avenue is closed, I guess. Maybe I can find another builder who can produce quality work for me. Does anyone know of a builder who can assemble resin cars without large sloppy glue deposits and have things aligned straight and true?
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 8:18:51 PM CST, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:
That brittle material has not been used by Westerfield for over 30 years now Roger. Bill Welch
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
vapeurchapelon
Hello Roger,
there is Southeast Scale Models by Michael Stamey. Here is an example:
https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/090372/HO-Built-Up-Model-Southeast-Scale-Models-from-Westerfield-3802-ACL-Atlantic-Coast-Line-USRA-Boxcar-Box-Car-46824-Pro-Paint
I have two cars built by him and I am very pleased by his work. From time to time you can find his offerings at ebay.
Best Regards
Johannes
Gesendet: Samstag, 03. Februar 2018 um 03:35 Uhr
Von: "Roger Huber trainpainter@... [STMFC]" An: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" Betreff: Re: [STMFC] F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Thanks, Bill. That was about my last experience with resin cars and I filed them away under the "never again" category! Way back I tried a Westerfield and an F&C and it was frustrating to say the least. I have heard they were much more user friendly now. Unfortunately the past experience was so poor it has kept me from having some very unique rolling stock. I'm still not convinced I want to spend the money on them and experiment myself.
I had a very good builder but he got his feelings hurt or something and so that avenue is closed, I guess. Maybe I can find another builder who can produce quality work for me. Does anyone know of a builder who can assemble resin cars without large sloppy glue deposits and have things aligned straight and true?
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 8:18:51 PM CST, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:
That brittle material has not been used by Westerfield for over 30 years now Roger. Bill Welch
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Timonium - 03-04 February
Ted Culotta
If any of you will be in attendance at Timonium this weekend, I will have a couple tables there and would love to chat about Steam Era freight cars. Please seek me out! Cheers, Ted Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media
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Re: Tangent GA Tank Car
Dennis
Steve,
Thanks for pointing out my error . . . I obviously transposed letters when looking up the reporting marks . . . damn it sucks getting old. I found it in the ORER and can move on to weathering . . . Thanks again, Dennis Korn
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Re: MP Reweigh Stations
Ed Hawkins
On Feb 2, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Nelson Moyer npmoyer@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote: I built a Westerfield MP 81000 series boxcar, and the decals only support NEW reweigh dates. Since the car was built in 1924, and I model 1953, I need to know the reweigh station so I can piece together a reweigh location and date. Photos of cars show DES 2-51 and DUPO 7-34. What are other location on the MP that I might consider, based upon a limited number of decal letters available? Nelson, It’s been quite a few years ago when a number of people collaborated with Richard Hendrickson in compiling a list of weigh stations symbols, which is one of the many prototype reference files in the STMFC web site. Link is the 6th bullet. The list is alphabetical by reporting marks, which for MoPac on-line weigh stations include listings on 3 pages. 21 International-Great Northern 23 Missouri Pacific 25 Gulf Coast lines (listed as NOT&M but also applies to StLB&M) Regards, Ed Hawkins
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MP Reweigh Stations
Nelson Moyer
I built a Westerfield MP 81000 series boxcar, and the decals only support NEW reweigh dates. Since the car was built in 1924, and I model 1953, I need to know the reweigh station so I can piece together a reweigh location and date. Photos of cars show DES 2-51 and DUPO 7-34. What are other location on the MP that I might consider, based upon a limited number of decal letters available?
Nelson Moyer
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Bill Welch
I think there are names of builders on the Westerfield website and Pierre Oliver who hangs out here is an excellent custom/commercial builder. He can be found here: http://www.elgincarshops.com/
Bill Welch
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
On Feb 2, 2018, at 7:52 PM, STMFC@... wrote:
1e. Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator buildThe dark grey brittle epoxy resin hasn't been used by Westerfield in many many years. The flat kits went to the softer, flexible, lighter grey urethane resin years ago Craig Zeni Cary NC
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Thanks, Bill. That was about my last experience with resin cars and I filed them away under the "never again" category! Way back I tried a Westerfield and an F&C and it was frustrating to say the least. I have heard they were much more user friendly now. Unfortunately the past experience was so poor it has kept me from having some very unique rolling stock. I'm still not convinced I want to spend the money on them and experiment myself. I had a very good builder but he got his feelings hurt or something and so that avenue is closed, I guess. Maybe I can find another builder who can produce quality work for me. Does anyone know of a builder who can assemble resin cars without large sloppy glue deposits and have things aligned straight and true? Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 8:18:51 PM CST, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:
That brittle material has not been used by Westerfield for over 30 years now Roger. Bill Welch
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Bill Welch
That brittle material has not been used by Westerfield for over 30 years now Roger.
Bill Welch
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Re: Tangent GA Tank Car
Jim Ogden
The Humble tank car should have a blue outline outside the red logo if it’s supposed to be a car repainted between 1935 and 1945. This can be easily added with a decal if it gets under my skin too much.
After the Second World War Humble changed this to the familiar white oval with a blue outline and red lettering to resemble the other Standard Oil of New Jersey properties such as Esso. (Standard Oil of New Jersey owned 50% of Humble since 1919 and bought the rest circa 1959). Jim Ogden Fort Worth, TX
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Thanks for that clarification. Is the one piece resin as brittle as the flat kit material? Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 6:43:58 PM CST, Andrew Dahm dahminator68@... [STMFC] wrote:
Hello. Actually, the #11600 Series Kits are only available with One-Piece bodies. Thank you, Andrew Dahm Westerfieldmodels@...
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 3:15 PM, Srrfan1401 srrfan1401@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
dahminator68
Hello. Actually, the #11600 Series Kits are only available with One-Piece bodies.
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Thank you, Andrew Dahm Westerfieldmodels@...
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 3:15 PM, Srrfan1401 srrfan1401@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
I believe that you can buy it either way check the Westerfield web site
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On Feb 2, 2018, at 4:39 PM, frograbbit602@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: resin allergy?
Chuck Cover
Group,
I recently started an older Sunshine Kit #11.1 and the kit contains what looks like the newer resin sides, roof etc., however, the floor is a yellowish material that has a very solvent-like odor. I don’t seem to have any allergy to this older resin, but it does irritate my eyes so I have several questions:
Any other comments are welcome. Thanks
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Betterment roof
Richard Townsend
Sorry, that was not intended for the group.
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Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] To: STMFC Sent: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 1:37 pm Subject: [STMFC] Betterment roof Tom,
It was good to meet you at CCB. I'm glad you introduced yourself to me. I understand you make (made?) betterment roofs for CB&Q passenger cars. Is one still available? I want to model the C&S car Zephyr Tower.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Thanks, Lester. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Friday, February 2, 2018, 3:39:50 PM CST, frograbbit602@... [STMFC] wrote:
Roger asked, “Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? ” Kit 11661, is a one well cast one piece body. Lester Breuer
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